Originally posted by batdude123
Read my post above. 😉 ^^^
I see what you mean, ofcourse. But Carnage already has to job slightly to Spiderman for him to survive. Against normal human beings(like Batman) he would have to be blindfolded and piss drunk. Really, it should only take a non-jobbing Carnage a few seconds to kill Batman.
Originally posted by FujiFuu
I donno, but it seems to me that basic knowledge of the opponent shouldn't equal knowing all of there weaknesses, it should be knowing what types of attacks to expect, and how fast/strong they might be. Even with knowledge of carnages weakness, carnage is fast enough to kill batman before batman can get him with fire, lets not forget that even if batman gets a fire bomb or whatever off, whats to stop carnage from dodging that easily? I think carnage can dodge longer than batman so 7/10 for carnage, but thats just me.
It worked on the White Martians. 😉 Besides, Batman has taken down guys like Superman and Major Force with his gadgets. Besides, Batman's fire gadgets can spread over a wide area. However, if Batman keeps the gadgets concealed (like he did against the Martians), Carnage would be expecting it and then when Bats takes it out it would be that much more difficult for him to dodge the flame especially if they're close to each other.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
I see what you mean, ofcourse. But Carnage already has to job slightly to Spiderman for him to survive. Against normal human beings(like Batman) he would have to be blindfolded and piss drunk. Really, it should only take a non-jobbing Carnage a few seconds to kill Batman.
Not if Batman has his full arsenal of gadgets. ❌ Batman beats people way out of his class like it's his job all the time.
Originally posted by batdude123
It worked on the White Martians. 😉 Besides, Batman has taken down guys like Superman and Major Force with his gadgets. Besides, Batman's fire gadgets can spread over a wide area. However, if Batman keeps the gadgets concealed (like he did against the Martians), Carnage would be expecting it and then when Bats takes it out it would be that much more difficult for him to dodge the flame especially if they're close to each other.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Carnage can strike Batman from a distance. He can shoot symbiotic parts, remember? That alone would kill or at least down/incapacitate Batman. I'm sure Carnage can find a way to avoid Batman's toys. He has so many options.
Yet Batman has the reflexes in order to dodge those kind of attacks. 😬
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Carnage can strike Batman from a distance. He can shoot symbiotic parts, remember? That alone would kill or at least down/incapacitate Batman. I'm sure Carnage can find a way to avoid Batman's toys. He has so many options.
True. I all forgot about those attacks. Carnage can throw sharp parts of symbiote and even Spidey had hard time dodging them. So this increase Kassidy's chances to win.
Originally posted by FujiFuu
Didn't batman draw a circle of gas around, then have them walk into it then light it ablaze? I'm sorry, but batman doesn't have time to trick carnage into walking into something that he somehow magically set up, unless he had prep, which it doesn't say he does, then carnage is just too fast for batman too get him with anything.
No, he didn't. 😐
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Originally posted by Dinalfos
Even Spiderman has a hard time with them. And rightfully so, because these things are fast and come without triggering his spider sense. 😉
Exactly, Spider-man's spider-sense doesn't work when symbiotes are around. Yet Green Arrow aimed an arrow at Batman when Batman's back was turned and then he fired the arrow. About half way, Batman turned around and threw a batarang at it, cutting it in half. Yes, Batman has got the reflexes and reaction time to dodge those. 😉
Originally posted by grey fox
Ok ...let's see.The venom symbiote doubles spideys stats.
Carnage ether triples his stats or is the same as his pops.
Spider mans reflexes are [b]40
times as fast as a human beings.Batman goes down before he can even reach into his belt. [/B]
Yet, Spider-man's been hit by street-level characters before.
Originally posted by batdude123
Exactly, Spider-man's spider-sense doesn't work when symbiotes are around. Yet Green Arrow aimed an arrow at Batman when Batman's back was turned and then he fired the arrow. About half way, Batman turned around and threw a batarang at it, cutting it in half. Yes, Batman has got the reflexes and reaction time to dodge those. 😉
No, he hasn't. He just can't. Unless these attacks you're speaking of were slow as hell. It just seems like "loose" writing to me. Besides, chunks of the Symbiote are much smaller and larger iin number. He can shoot dozens of them at the same time. I'd like to see Batman Batarang those.
Originally posted by grey fox
The suits amp spideys stats , logically this would include his reflexes . Venom's strength is double (or close) to Spidey's . Ergo the reflexes must be doubled .
I know about the strength. But the speed isn't as obvious. I've seen Spiderman dodge both Venom and Carnage attacks with relative ease.
