Why doesn't it count, because you say so? The Sun - Eaters don't power him up, in fact they were actually weakening him with red sun radiation.
Consider this: The energy required to destroy the earth is around 2.4e32j. The average energy released by a supernova is around 1e44j. A Sun - Eater explosion with the power of 50 supernovas is thus around 5e45j, making its explosion over 20 trillion times more powerful than an exploding earth. Superman has survived this kind of explosion twice, once back in 1991 when he was much weaker than he was now, and also when he was in the center of the Sun - Eater, and thus he took a large part of the explosion. The next time was after the majority of his power had been drained by red sun radiation.
Goku can keep firing blasts until he's blue in the face, he won't hurt Superman. He won't even get a chance, since Superman is so much faster, he'll KO him before he can even react.
This is one of the first moves Superman used against Redemption. This would definitely KO Goku, or at least stun him long enough for Superman to deliver the finishing blow (remember, Goku can't survive in space):
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3949/supermanspeedblitz1ni5.jpg
As for the whole Calaton blast thing, what your whole argument boils down to is that you think Superman's durability is weak because he got a minor concussion from an explosion of undefined power (despite the fact that he got right back up and kept fighting, and won), and to you, the explosion didn't look impressive, so he's weak.
Should I remind you that when Vegeta sacrificed himself against Buu, he used up all of his ki at once, and only created a crater a hundred or so meters in diamater?
Superman gets his powers from stars and a supernova is nothing but another solar energy related feat. That like me saying wowwee Ice man can survive in arctic temperatures. 🙄
None of you showed me Supes survive a planet destroying attack therefore he dIES after being concusses by a weak blast of nukes.
Originally posted by superkronick92
http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0023ca2.jpgFrom the respect thread, Lets see anny dbz character survive this.
Dude, if you can't tell, that is a red sun with a kryptonite asteroid field, lets see any dbz character not be disintegrated instantly.
Have you ignored everything I've said?
Superman gets his powers from yellow sunlight.
Sun - Eaters devour all kinds of stars, yellow, red, blue, white, you name it. They are alive, and can use their powers to specifically weaken Superman. In fact they were using red sunlight to weaken him and drain his powers before the explosion. Red sunlight harms him, not helps him. Superman does not gain his powers from heat, pressure, or concussive force, which are the major parts of the explosion.
Originally posted by KentoKay, and Goku after learning IT at about full energy would have easily survived, he would of just ITed to the closest planet.
Unless it's been retconned, which I think it may have been, he does have a bio aura that protects him from stuff but he's also got extreme durability also besides it. Doomsday was able to by pass the field as is anybody stronger or that has magic or kryptonite.And yes its a big feat but not something Gokou could do. Freeza only survived because his father found him and made him a cyborg. Gokou would have died if the positions exchanged because he can't survive in space. So even if he could survive the explosion he'd died from being in space.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeHe wouldn't have the time. He'd be at the least dazed and thrown off who knows where before he could even think about looking for a ki source to IT with. By that time he'd be dead again.
Kay, and Goku after learning IT at about full energy would have easily survived, he would of just ITed to the closest planet.
Originally posted by Endless MikeHe can hold his breath for a few seconds to IT, could he not? And lost what? He's not fighting anything.
No he wouldn't, because his lungs would be instantly filled with vaporized gas and debris and he would die.Besides, when your best strategy is to run away, it's pretty clear that you've lost.
The planet explosion alone should send him flying off in some direction. Plus he'd have to try to locate a ki source before he runs out of time. He didn't do so well under pressure during the Buu saga to get away from Buu's blast and it took him a minute to get a lock onto King Kai's planet with Cell.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Have you ignored everything I've said?Superman gets his powers from yellow sunlight.
Sun - Eaters devour all kinds of stars, yellow, red, blue, white, you name it. They are alive, and can use their powers to specifically weaken Superman. In fact they were using red sunlight to weaken him and drain his powers before the explosion. Red sunlight harms him, not helps him. Superman does not gain his powers from heat, pressure, or concussive force, which are the major parts of the explosion.
That's all a red sun does to him is DRAIN his powers it is not a durability feat. 🙄 Getting concussed by a blast of many nukes is a durabiltiy feat.
Supes will DIE by a planet destroying attack.
Originally posted by PhenomenolHim going into a red sun is a durability feat. It would drain his powers quicker making him weaker being close to it and add the heat and the gravity. How is that not a durability feat?
That's all a red sun does to him is DRAIN his powers it is not a durability feat. 🙄 Getting concussed by a blast of many nukes is a durabiltiy feat.Supes will DIE by a planet destroying attack.
Originally posted by KentoKing Kai's planet is pretty far away, he didn't get away from Buu's blast very fast because he was worrying over Gohan and the others.
The planet explosion alone should send him flying off in some direction. Plus he'd have to try to locate a ki source before he runs out of time. He didn't do so well under pressure during the Buu saga to get away from Buu's blast and it took him a minute to get a lock onto King Kai's planet with Cell.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeKing Kai would be the easiest place for him to go to though. Without that he has to try to lock onto some kind of ki source to IT with. It would take a bit. Longer than I think he could survive the depths of space after being blown back from the force of the planet exploding. And no the reason he didn't get away from the blast is because he couldn't lock onto a ki source quick enough.
King Kai's planet is pretty far away, he didn't get away from Buu's blast very fast because he was worrying over Gohan and the others.
Originally posted by Phenomenol
Cause it just drains him of his powers that is not a durability feat. taking a planet destroying blast and not severly damaged is a durability feat.Supes Dies.
He went into the sun. The sun's heat and gravity would make it a durability feat. Not to mention the kryptonite around. He's being weakend by kryptonite and red sun radiation.
