Getting back to an earlier comment, Phenomenal continues to state how much faster Goku & the other Z Fighters are faster than Superman. That's bullshit seeing as a freshly trained Piccolo took about three issues to reach where Gohan & the others were fighting. I just read that part of the manga today, he didn't want to conserve energy, he was going flying as fast as he could & it still took a long time as nearly everyone almost got killed. Not to mention how Krillen was easily hurt by a little rock that hit him on the head. Just give up, you're horrible at debating & you're passing non-canon anime scenes off as canon. You phail.
Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
No, SSJ3 Goku is second in command to Chou Gohan & the best display of speed I've seen was Goku arriving on the battlefield where Gohan & the others were in about one second flat.
There was no description there, no explanation of speed - so it's subjective.
And Super Saiya-jin form 3 Gotenks would beat a similarly transformed Goku.
Are you serious? What evidence shows SSJ3 Goku is stronger & faster than Superman? He got his ass basically handed to him by Buu & he wasn't even fighting at full power & almost lost to Majin Vegeta. Not to mention he got knocked out by a rock, even Superman wouldn't be able to be knocked out by a rock. Lastly, Superman learned Kryptonian martial arts which is a way more advanced style of fighting than Earth martial arts which is all Goku learned as a child. I defy you to show me proof that Goku is stronger, faster & is a better fighter. You can't? I understand.
Originally posted by Sarutobi700
I said he is a faster fighter. Superman is a MUCH FASTER FLYER. DBZ martial arts>earth martial arts, they have different concepts fool. DB eart is different form Supermans earth so dont compare them.
I'm a fool? DBZ martial arts IS regular martial arts you dick. Superman is a faster fighter as well, he's shown that on multiple occasions. Plus, I didn't even compare the two different Earth's, I compared the different martial arts styles in which Kryptonian martial arts is more advanced. Learn to read you prick.