Superman can defeat EVERY DBGT character...............combined

Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Goku has never speedblitzed a day in his life, he can move really fast at times but that's it, nothing more, nothing less. And again, Goku never destroyed a planet in his life, only some DBZ characters claimed they could, the only one who actually did was Kid Buu. Lastly, Goku has never punched anyone halfway across the planet like Superman or fought someone without being damaged from three or four punches.

I still don't count it as he had to destroy the core. Freeza is a coward anyway.

All in all, Goku doesn't have any feats that are impressive enough to say that he's even close to Superman's level of strength & speed.

Best quantifiable DBZ speed feat: Gotenks circling the earth several times in less than thirty minutes. Five times, if I recall correctly. Light, on the other hand, could circle the earth seven times per second, if memory serves.

Best quantifiable DBZ strength feat: Goku easily lifting fourty tons as a Super Saiya-jin.

Best quantifiable Superman speed feat: Travelling something like thirty light years in a couple minutes. Something like five million times the speed of light.

Best quantifiable Superman strength feat: Moving a solar system sized spaceship 'Maggedon.'

Tossing something that was the size of a small moon.

Moving a third of the planet.

Et Cetera.

I wasnt talking about the comics supes i was talking about the animated supes cause someone mentioned the animated supes could take goku. I agree that the comics supes(especially PC supes) could certainly beat Goku. The animated supes would be ass raped so badly by goku it isnt even funny, that really isnt the topic but i just didnt like the implication that animated supes could take goku considering what a weak showing the animated supes had.

Going by what soljer said, i personally believe gokus max strength is probably around 200-400 tons and his max speed could be light speed or at least close to it. Still, supes PC speed feats where cartoony....he makes surfer look like Juggy. He threw antire galaxy for crying out loud..he was a freaking God lol.

Any Superman incarnation has Goku beat. End of story.

His max 'travel' speed is instantaneous - pretty nifty ability.

His best 'fighting' speed, well, has no indication. They were invisible when they were fighting in Dragonball, they were invisible when fighting in the buu saga.

It's assumed that by the Buu saga, the characters are millions of times more powerful, and at least several times faster, but there is no real supporting evidence of this fact.

And I VERY much doubt that Goku fights anywhere near lightspeed - and there isn't a single shred of evidence that he does.

Anywho - I dunno about Superman: The animated series. No idea whatsoever, I'm a comic fan - I don't really follow the TV show.

Maybe someone more knowledgeable than I can discuss that particular incarnation.

Well, at the end of JLU it was revealed that Superman had been holding back the entire time we've seen him from the beginning of his series which means he's never ever went all out but he gave Captain Marvel the ass kicking of a lifetime on JLU. You should be able to find it on Youtube, he gave out a beating no DBZ character would be able to take head on & survive.

Captain Marvel I believe was also nerfed, everyone in JLU was.

Except for AMAZO, he was stronger in JLU than most of the comic versions

Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Any Superman incarnation has Goku beat. End of story.

Originally posted by Kento
There is no way JLU Superman is beating Gokou. He doesn't have the speed and is hurt by weaker things than a Kamehameha. He has strength yes but that's not going to help if he can't hit Gokou. He has none of the training that his comic counterpart has either. He'd have a hard time beating saiyan saga Gokou if he could even do that. He shows his full power against Darkseid with two hits and I think that if he was able to keep hitting Gokou with those powered punched he could win but he may hold back his strength his durability isn't on par to take a Kamehameha.

i agree. nappa and vegeta i the saiyan saga were blowing up cities with ease. i seriously doubt animated supes could even touch goku. even if he did it would basically be a reg punch from vegeta, so it wouldnt be doing very much.

by the way his best strength feat in the cartoon was hitting darkside through about what 7 buildings? oOo.

now reg supes on the other hand would be harder to kill. i still believe goku wins

Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Goku has never speedblitzed a day in his life, he can move really fast at times but that's it, nothing more, nothing less. And again, Goku never destroyed a planet in his life, only some DBZ characters claimed they could, the only one who actually did was Kid Buu. Lastly, Goku has never punched anyone halfway across the planet like Superman or fought someone without being damaged from three or four punches.

Freeza destroyed Namek and Planet Vegeta

Best quantifiable DBZ speed feat: Gotenks circling the earth several times in one minutes.

Best quantifiable DBZ strength feat: SS2 Goku pushing apart a huge cliff, which caused it to crumble

Not quantifiable, my friend. And it wasn't 'one minute.'

It was less than thirty. Besides that, there was no specification.

Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Best quantifiable DBZ strength feat: SS2 Goku pushing apart a huge cliff, which caused it to crumble

Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Best quantifiable DBZ speed feat: Gotenks circling the earth several times in one minutes.

Best quantifiable DBZ strength feat: SS2 Goku pushing apart a huge cliff, which caused it to crumble

superman flew around the world in less than 3 seconds...

Not to mention that the cliff scene was a filler.

BTW, Gotenks had 29 minutes to fly around the world, and afterwards, it took him a whole minute to fly from wherever he was to Buu's house.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
i agree. nappa and vegeta i the saiyan saga were blowing up cities with ease. i seriously doubt animated supes could even touch goku. even if he did it would basically be a reg punch from vegeta, so it wouldnt be doing very much.

by the way his best strength feat in the cartoon was hitting darkside through about what 7 buildings? oOo.

now reg supes on the other hand would be harder to kill. i still believe goku wins

Animated Superman is still pretty strong, he pwned Captain Marvel, someone who would regularly be considered stronger than Superman. Even if animated Superman can't defeat Goku, any comic book version of Superman would completely annilhate Goku in any form.

Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Animated Superman is still pretty strong, he pwned Captain Marvel, someone who would regularly be considered stronger than Superman. Even if animated Superman can't defeat Goku, any comic book version of Superman would completely annilhate Goku in any form.

Except for 1930's Superman