My Episode III prophecy....

Pfft! Still being feeble, Lauren. While it is clear that it is you who clearly cannot stand being wrong you have again just made a pointless post that does not redress any issues.

Starting with the fact that what we have on film shows two equals and you need a canon source to override this. Yerssot has already pointed out how unreliable these other sources are

Secondly, you try and use the official site to back your argument. Bad move. Here is what it says:

"The Jedi Master Yoda confronted Dooku. The two engaged in a titanic struggle of Force powers, neither besting the other. It came down to a contest of lightsabers. In a blurring tangle of speed and light, the two masters of the Force dueled. Unable to find an advantage, Dooku distracted Yoda by endangering Kenobi and Skywalker with a toppling crane. As Yoda used the Force to save his fellow Jedi, Dooku fled."

Oh yeah, that is CLEARLY showing Dooku as massively inferior, isn't it?

You haven't even been botherd to check your arguments; you are just ranting at me because it is YOU that cannot stand to be shown to be wrong.

And no-one has even mentioned the VD so I don;t know what you are talking about.

Get your facts straight before you blunder in again, Lauren, and make such puerile comments about me.

Well as I stated earlier, personally I give the nod to Yoda, mainly cause of fansy moves and speed, but that is a personal view and people must be allowed to see it othervwise than my views.
Dooku needed to get away with the DS plans, he clearly saw the importance of those plans and he had to distract Yoda to get away. He played on Yodas compasion for his fellow Jedi and his padawan and he gambled right. He runs straight onboard his ship not even looking back and for what Dooku knew a bunch of Jedis might have been right outside the hangar ready to aid Yoda in his battle.
He needed to get away.

Originally posted by finti
not even looking back

eh it is a kind of expression Yers

I was just wondering if I remember it correctly

and you made me a bit unsure about it too, I think you are right when he cast a quick peek over his shoulder, but with all intension of continue escaping though

yes, of course continuing the escape, I was just thinking if he did the looking back or not

damn I saw it for the 5th time only yesterday, now I have to find time to see it again just to look for that moment

you don't like watching AOTC again?

Its just it is so damn hard to find the time for it now 🙁

well, you have a good excuse now 😉

Obviously, yes, escape rather than besting Yoda was Dooku's intention. If he could have beaten Yoda easily, as he did Obi-Wan and Anakin, he would have done so but he clearly could not. So in the end he just did what he was really there to do to the best of his ability Which went fine.

I do appreciate that you hold that view, Finti, but I still submit that even if you give the edge to Yoda what we have here is a combat between two Masters with very little in it, not some total thrashing of a pupil by his old Master like has been suggested.

I still think it could have gone either way but Dooku would have been mad to risk it when he could escape and achieve all he wanted. And as Finti says, there could have been a ton of reinforcements coming.

what we have here is a combat between two Masters with very little in it, not some total thrashing of a pupil by his old Master like has been suggested.

Excellent.

In that case, then, the most antgaonistic issue is the assumed existence of the footage where Yoda is meant to beat Dooku and make his "The end for you, Count, this is..." speech. That would make Yoda look better but I don't think it changes much; SOMEONE had to win that fight and it was still a close run thing. We'll see if it is on the DVD or not.

Other than that, the broad spectrum of agreement seems to be that the idea floating around before the film that Dooku would be utterly thrashed by Yoda had little basis. Which leaves the anomalies of some of the non-canon material that suggests this. As it is contradicted by film I feel secure in discounting that.

I think a lot of people cling to those alleged footage when they talk about the Yoda /Dooku battle. Hell it didnt even last more than 30 sec, what can we really get out of it besides Yoda was a fit little bugger

Yes indeed; the main objective was to show Yoda's hidden talents.

Now some semblance of consensus has been reached, is there further important comment to be made? Only this thead has run pretty much way off-topic, and at length as well; but I hesitate to close it before others have their say.

When I saw the film yesterday though, Dooku seemed a little winded after besting Anakin. Maybe it is just me looking for some weakneses in Dooku, but I really thought he looke winded

well, you can say that Yoda was tired too with his heavy breathing

Yoda use a cane, even so he didnt seem to be heavy breating, more like he used to be. (maybe Lees age as an real actor, but I doubt it)

Well, he had just been through THREE fights... and much as I like Dooku I would be amazed if he had come against a fight with no less a being as Yoda feeling as fresh as a daisy.