Silver Surfer vs Alpha Flight

Started by King_Mungi6 pages

Originally posted by leonidas
noy if he's taken out in the second nanosecond . . . 😛

af has no answer to a speed blitz -- at least not any answer that would stop him.

Actually they have mutliple answers and remember their on Earth and has to be intact so going lightspeed won't work.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually they have mutliple answers and remember their on Earth and has to be intact so going lightspeed won't work.
Ah King but in Marvel characters can go that fast in the atmosphere.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Ah King but in Marvel characters can go that fast in the atmosphere.

Northstar and Aurora can't as in the bios stated it would cause them harm and the environment if they reached 99% the speed of light.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Northstar and Aurora can't as in the bios stated it would cause them harm and the environment if they reached 99% the speed of light.

Not Surfer Though...😛

Surfer seemingly went lightspeed on Earth when he searched the whole world for Namor.

Originally posted by Accel
Surfer seemingly went lightspeed on Earth when he searched the whole world for Namor.

The guy's Timetraveled while in earth's atmosphere........

Shaman and Talisman have timetravled as well, but how would that be possible for Surfer to go lightspeed on Earth?

Who Cares though SS just transmutes them all to living statues faster then the speed of light, yeah thats the ticket!

That's very diffucult with a Dr.Strange equal and two near equal magical users.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That's very diffucult with a Dr.Strange equal and two near equal magical users.

Not so much when SS even if he doesn't travel at light speed has shown he can function at lightspeed (ie thoughts.) Humans have a distinctly weak link, durability. SS wins due to erg dare I say it Speed Blitz with power cosmic to turn them into stone.

Originally posted by Soleran
Not so much when SS even if he doesn't travel at light speed has shown he can function at lightspeed (ie thoughts.) Humans have a distinctly weak link, durability. SS wins due to erg dare I say it Speed Blitz with power cosmic to turn them into stone.

Talisman is the avatar of the gods, and is said to be more spirit than human now and half way into the spirit world. Witchfire is a powerful demon the daughter of Belasco, really the only one who has human durability is Shaman.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Talisman is the avatar of the gods, and is said to be more spirit than human now and half way into the spirit world. Witchfire is a powerful demon the daughter of Belasco, really the only one who has human durability is Shaman.

Which could benefit them I'm sure if SS's jobber Cosmic senses wouldn't allow him to know this and yet again act thousands of times faster then the entire group combined.

SS once again uses PC to sense what would overcome them and does so , the end.

The only way Alpha Flight has any chance is if you take out speedblitz, otherwise no way.

Originally posted by Soleran
Which could benefit them I'm sure if SS's jobber Cosmic senses wouldn't allow him to know this and yet again act thousands of times faster then the entire group combined.

SS once again uses PC to sense what would overcome them and does so , the end.

The only way Alpha Flight has any chance is if you take out speedblitz, otherwise no way.

Talisman actually has the same thing as the spirits tell her the exact same thing and she can see into the future.

Which is possible as Shaman can create a spell instantly halting anything that flys in a mile radius.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Talisman actually has the same thing as the spirits tell her the exact same thing and she can see into the future.

Which is possible as Shaman can create a spell instantly halting anything that flys in a mile radius.

Stipulations
*fight takes place on Earth and the planet must survive for either side to win
*no use of the Void, BFR, or manipulation of time
*neither side gets prep
*both sides are bloodlusted

Ok, unless speedblitz is taken out of the equation Alpha Flight is Schmoked. Flying is the LEAST of their concerns, NONE of the folks can react as fast as SS. SS can be on the other side of the planet and still turn everyone in Alpha Flight to stones, his cosmic awareness is a biotch to contend with. In the end he is FAR, FAR to fast and furious for alpha flight!

He's Too Fast and Too Furious I tell you!

Originally posted by Soleran
Stipulations
*fight takes place on Earth and the planet must survive for either side to win
*no use of the Void, BFR, or manipulation of time
*neither side gets prep
*both sides are bloodlusted

Ok, unless speedblitz is taken out of the equation Alpha Flight is Schmoked. Flying is the LEAST of their concerns, NONE of the folks can react as fast as SS. SS can be on the other side of the planet and still turn everyone in Alpha Flight to stones, his cosmic awareness is a biotch to contend with. In the end he is FAR, FAR to fast and furious for alpha flight!

He's Too Fast and Too Furious I tell you!

Only one can react fast enough with him is Talisman, the rest are fodder. Really only Galactus-buster Guardian, Shaman and Witchfire will be the only ones fighting. Or maybe the two skyfather beings Tanaraq and Snowbird transformed into Tanaraq, but we don't know what they are capable of. Basically the others could give Talisman the time to step in and do something. They have a weird connection, such as Silver Surfer and Talisman during Silver Sufer annual #2 communicated and SS sent out a personally of an upcoming crisis to Talisman. Their not strangers

Well Talisman could travel to the aestral plane and summon the spirit of death to take Silver Surfer's soul.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Only one can react fast enough with him is Talisman, the rest are fodder. Really only Galactus-buster Guardian, Shaman and Witchfire will be the only ones fighting. Or maybe the two skyfather beings Tanaraq and Snowbird transformed into Tanaraq, but we don't know what they are capable of. Basically the others could give Talisman the time to step in and do something. They have a weird connection, such as Silver Surfer and Talisman during Silver Sufer annual #2 communicated and SS sent out a personally of an upcoming crisis to Talisman. Their not strangers

Well Talisman could travel to the aestral plane and summon the spirit of death to take Silver Surfer's soul.

Trust me you have no idea how many beings have tried to take the surfers soul and failed.

Originally posted by Soleran
Stipulations
*fight takes place on Earth and the planet must survive for either side to win
*no use of the Void, BFR, or manipulation of time
*neither side gets prep
*both sides are bloodlusted

Ok, unless speedblitz is taken out of the equation Alpha Flight is Schmoked. Flying is the LEAST of their concerns, NONE of the folks can react as fast as SS. SS can be on the other side of the planet and still turn everyone in Alpha Flight to stones, his cosmic awareness is a biotch to contend with. In the end he is FAR, FAR to fast and furious for alpha flight!

He's Too Fast and Too Furious I tell you!

But there is a question about the Surfer actually showing that he can accomplish high level matter manipulation on his opponents during a fight...😖hifty: Now whether or not Alpha Flight's members have enough speed/reflexes to occupy the Surfer until their more powerful members can come into play.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Trust me you have no idea how many beings have tried to take the surfers soul and failed.

I don't mean literally take it, just kill him ie. grim reaper as she commands all spirits.

How, SS would immediatly know that Talisman and Shaman are his greatest threats due to his cosmic awareness.

Therefore the likelyhood of him even blinking in the direction of anyone other then those 2 would be an enormous feat in retardation, SS even better yet just evaporates them all as fast as the speed of light🙂

Only Aurora and Northstar have speed to even remotely see what would happen, the others are just human essentially for speed. SS wins based on the stipulations of the thread starter. 9/10

Um turning AF into steam isn't even remotely a high lvl manipulation, not even close.

Originally posted by Soleran
How, SS would immediatly know that Talisman and Shaman are his greatest threats due to his cosmic awareness.

Therefore the likelyhood of him even blinking in the direction of anyone other then those 2 would be an enormous feat in retardation, SS even better yet just evaporates them all as fast as the speed of light🙂

Only Aurora and Northstar have speed to even remotely see what would happen, the others are just human essentially for speed. SS wins based on the stipulations of the thread starter. 9/10

Um turning AF into steam isn't even remotely a high lvl manipulation, not even close.

Remember Talisman has the exact same awareness and is capable of seeing into the future

She would know of the attack and know what he is fully capable of thanks to her visions and spirits and she could make a temporal copy.

Guardian can go faster than mach 32.7, and yeah majority of the team are means of fodder which would be used to give Talisman the opportunity she needs to do something.

Your also forgetting Shaman, Witchfire and Talisman are also high level manipulators.