Originally posted by Soleran
No Prep King Mungi🙂 Otherwise SS, cosmic awareness does the same for him. So its AF vs SS with no prep and bloodlusted, your team gets the curbstomp due to the fact SS can handle speeds and act at speeds far greater then anyone on the AF team save Aurora and Northstar.
So why would cosmic awareness kick in for Silversurfer and Talisman prophetic vision and spiritis instantly feeding her information not be ?
Actually Guardian has measure against speedsters creating an invisible electromagnetic wall he used on Northstar. They are
Originally posted by golem370
He would burn the team with Cosmic energy in seconds they are canon characters they have all these feats but where were they during Age of Apocalypse or during the Onslaught saga where were they when Terminus was facing The Avengers X-Men and Fantastic Four. They are stupid characters Talisman is equal to Dr Strange but he has they monicure Sorceror Supreme. They fought Llan who is so obsure that nobody know the full extanct of his powers same goes for Tanaraq. I heard that Wolverine alone have beat the Alpha Flight including Vindicator,Guardian,Puck,Northstar Aurora and Sasquatch
Doubtful as they do have skyfathers, and Galactus-buster Guardian plus three uber magicians. The rest are fodder. Who cares where they were, look at their powerset have they always been shown doing what they can do? no. Popular teams get the spotlight in those crisis, does that mean their weak since they wern't in it? Not at all. You consider them stupid as you know nothing of them and are upset obsure characters can hang with the big dogs. And?...look at Llan and the Great Beasts, Dreamqueen, Carcass and various other feats and you would realise they are major threats. Did you know SHaman saved the multiverse? probally not. You heard wrong, he never did
Originally posted by leonidas
i actually think if both fought as they are usually depicted, it would be pretty close (and kahn has a point -- ss rarely demonstrates any combination of blitz and 'power'😉. discount ss's blitz and forget the ridiculous high end feats (shaman does NOT usually eliminate flight, or stop battles with a shush!) mungi always uses to promote some of af's cast and it would be a good fight. and i thought talsiman was sort of a . . . conduit, rather than an actual sorceress? regardless, i still don't believe she consistently demonstrates power on the level of strange -- who himself is inconsistently depicted. using only high end feats to support reasons for victory (which is done ALL the time on this forum) almost always gives unrealistic impressions of the charatcers, imo. it basically makes any battle with characters like strange, green lantern, ss, flash or even alpha flight meaningless because they can all wipe out anyone with a thought in only a moment. clearly comics contradict this.end rant. 😄
He has manipulated time before the shush feats, and yeah she isn't a soressor actually the native american messiah the avatar for the gods to fight the evil. Well considering she controlled the Great Beasts just because they were from the spirit world and they themselves are Gods puts her at a high level. She even teleported an entire city full of over 100,000 people into an empty dimension and absorbed trillions of spells and artificats into her being from Shaman's bag. You hit the nail on the head with your last point.