Originally posted by who?-kid
Which is like saying they are about equal in power. Which they aren't.
Saying they are in the same class does not mean that they are equal in power. Take Tim Drake and Wolverine. Both are in the street-level class, however Tim would lose to Wolverine. The Watchers are below the Celestials, but barely. However, they are in the same class and that class is above the skyfathers. 😉
Originally posted by golem370
Well see the Most Powerful Watcher was killed by Exitar and the most powerful watcher is up there with Galactus
2. A normal Galactus - whatever that may be - is not as strong as an average Celestial. Galactus has a good amount of bad showings (oh no, but he was weak back then, he only was at 23 % of his true power...blah blah blah). Celestials don't waste their time with bad showings.
Originally posted by who?-kid
1. The "most powerful Watchter" is not just "a" Watcher. We were debating Watchers, not the most powerful one.2. A normal Galactus - whatever that may be - is not as strong as an average Celestial. Galactus has a good amount of bad showings (oh no, but he was weak back then, he only was at 23 % of his true power...blah blah blah). Celestials don't waste their time with bad showings.
Yep, ALL the skyfathers put together couldn't take down Exitar.
likely more powerful, but i'd say not that far above. odin has spoken with a watcher in the past and certainly wasn't at all intimidated by him and the watcher was very respectful -- as they usually are, admittedly. still, by their interaction, i didn't have the impression that they were far above him. and don't forget -- a rogue watcher seemed unable to put quasar down!! not a good showing for someone who is supposed to be a high level cosmic. in any event, they are certainly below galactus and well below celestials. from inbook evidence, i've never understood why everyone places galactus in league with or above celestials. potentially he could be, but thor with god force drove off galactus. odin and a host of other skyfathers -- together! -- couldn't make arishem flinch. and when they were done he was prepared to block their access to each of their own realms or possibly destroy those realms.
the watchers have diffrent power levels im guessing then but in earth x or whatever its called which should be counted because LT was there, anyway the watchers warred with the celestials they where losing but none the less they fought, the skyfathers of earth couldnt beat one host let alone take on the entire race, galactus has already been stated to be above the celestials at full power, and ego prime which is equal to or below galactus killed many celestials.
but full power is hypothetical. i don't know if g has ever been shown to have reached an in-book level that would be a match for what the celestials have done.
lt has been in many what ifs, but those aren't continuity or canon either. why should earth x be different?
based on what i've seen of the characters, i'd say uatu>odin, but not by much. don't forget too -- odin's power has 'shaken the multiverse'. all these guys have uber high showings to go along with lower ones as well. is it less impressive that odin couldn't put down thanos, or a watcher couldn't put down quasar . . .? and unlike earth x -- those ARE continuity.