I know a lot of people dont put stock in the stats given by the Marvel RPG but Odin was in the seperate section with the watchers and the other cosmic level beings. He had a couple of stats at CL3000 level one of which was his Pysche(The other was endurance I believe) which gave him magic at that level. The watchers highest stat was actually CL1000(All Uatu's stats were taht level though). The celestials and up had CL5000 stats. Eternity stats all said Infinate. I honestly allways thought these stats were fairly reliable, they were all edited by marvel people anyway.
Odin should lose, imo, but he should make a good accounting for himself.
And leo let me say this. Galactus as seen on or attacking Earth, is weak. Desperately hungry. And thats the only reason why he was driven off.
Look at it like this. Earth = Wolverine(the actual animal people), Hungry Galactus = Grizzly Bear.
The bear, who is the HUNGRY Galactus, can kill the Wolverine with a hit or two. But the Wolverine is so ferocious in its defense, that the bear goes away to find another meal. He can kill the Wolverine with little effort. But that effort, is much to costly in his eyes.
And i'd say Galactus as seen in Stormbreaker or in his battle with Tyrant, was in the celestial range of power. Average Celestial that is. To pass Exitar and Arishem, he'd have to be 75% and up.
Originally posted by golem370
Watchers are in the same class as Galactus,Celestials and Ego Odin ain't nothing compared to them.
They are bellow Celestials, but beyond Skyfathers.
They fought Celestials, were loosing, but Skyfathers together couldn't defeat one Celestial.
I always put Full Powered Galactus to be beyond Celestial, that his final power limits is greater than Celestial one.
I wonder how would Celestial versus Full Powered Tyrant go.
I think Galactus against Full powered Tyrant is the greatest scope of power that Galactus has shown (galaxies being wrecked).
Even Thanos said that Universe have never seen such a conflict, and maybe that was the greatest fight in scope of power, considering one on one.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Odin should lose, imo, but he should make a good accounting for himself.
And leo let me say this. Galactus as seen on or attacking Earth, is weak. Desperately hungry. And thats the only reason why he was driven off.Look at it like this. Earth = Wolverine(the actual animal people), Hungry Galactus = Grizzly Bear.
The bear, who is the HUNGRY Galactus, can kill the Wolverine with a hit or two. But the Wolverine is so ferocious in its defense, that the bear goes away to find another meal. He can kill the Wolverine with little effort. But that effort, is much to costly in his eyes.
And i'd say Galactus as seen in Stormbreaker or in his battle with Tyrant, was in the celestial range of power. Average Celestial that is. To pass Exitar and Arishem, he'd have to be 75% and up.
but that's the point -- galactus is ALWAYS weak. what did he do in stormbreaker that was so impressive? bill damaged his helmet. and beating down bill isn't much of a feat for a high level cosmic. in this forum you always hear about his potential. doens't make a difference if he's never reached it. the only time g showed himself capable of being beyond celestial level was when he absorbed the dreaming celestial, but he was not really himself so that was a weird showing.
galactus is perpetually hungry. that implies that anytime he came up against the celestials he would still not be 100% (whatever that is . . .) if that's the case, the celestials would likely be able to defeat him.
as far as galactus' battle with tyrant -- surtur, skyfather level -- also destroyed a galaxy, and there have been many battles that were greater in scope then that one. thanos has been in at least 2 of them himself.
he should have better feats meh, not even defeating thanos is that great a feat, i guess when he absorbed his spaceship which was solar system or galaxy sized dont remeber that was also a good feet, with galactus powers doom could manipulate reality, what else can i say in the FF comics galactus ate the entire celestial homeworld and did the same to the skrull homeworld he has very few good showings which are pretty pathetic but they have to find a way for him to job or else he'd just beat almost everyone and anyone.
Originally posted by golem370
Watchers are in the same class as Galactus,Celestials and Ego Odin ain't nothing compared to them.
Hilarious but ultimately pathetic attempt to put Galactus in the same class as the Celestials. I like how you snuck in celestials between Galactus and Ego. You are, of course, horribly wrong. A single Celestial would easily destroy both.
Also, there is no such thing as a "full-powered" galactus. Galactus cannot so much as wipe his own ass without a machine helping him. If Galactus, through the use of artificial aids to increase his power, can be considered more powerful than a Celestial, then Thanos is also more powerful than a Celestial.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Hilarious but ultimately pathetic attempt to put Galactus in the same class as the Celestials. I like how you snuck in celestials between Galactus and Ego. You are, of course, horribly wrong. A single Celestial would easily destroy both.Also, there is no such thing as a "full-powered" galactus. Galactus cannot so much as wipe his own ass without a machine helping him. If Galactus, through the use of artificial aids to increase his power, can be considered more powerful than a Celestial, then Thanos is also more powerful than a Celestial.
I don't know how you can say that there is no full power Galactus, when its been said he can destroy the universe ten times over by the Watcher. Do you not read the comics?? Or have you still not realized that things have changed since the early days of Marvel?? Even if you don't like it, accept it.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't know how you can say that there is no full power Galactus, when its been said he can destroy the universe ten times over by the Watcher. Do you not read the comics?? Or have you still not realized that things have changed since the early days of Marvel?? Even if you don't like it, accept it.
It's also worth pointing out that Galactus HAS killed/absorbed a celestial who attempted to use him as a weapon. (The renegade/dreaming celestial) IF celestials truly are stronger than a normal/fully powered galactus, this wouldn't have happened.
Also, as I'm fond of pointing out lately, the ultimate nullifier is an aspect of galactus. That thing is powerful enough to destroy and recreate not only all of 616 but several parallel worlds as well. Celestials are nowhere NEAR this strong.
Originally posted by Xplosive
They are bellow Celestials, but beyond Skyfathers.
They fought Celestials, were loosing, but Skyfathers together couldn't defeat one Celestial.
I always put Full Powered Galactus to be beyond Celestial, that his final power limits is greater than Celestial one.
I wonder how would Celestial versus Full Powered Tyrant go.
I think Galactus against Full powered Tyrant is the greatest scope of power that Galactus has shown (galaxies being wrecked).Even Thanos said that Universe have never seen such a conflict, and maybe that was the greatest fight in scope of power, considering one on one.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Odin should lose, imo, but he should make a good accounting for himself.
And leo let me say this. Galactus as seen on or attacking Earth, is weak. Desperately hungry. And thats the only reason why he was driven off.Look at it like this. Earth = Wolverine(the actual animal people), Hungry Galactus = Grizzly Bear.
The bear, who is the HUNGRY Galactus, can kill the Wolverine with a hit or two. But the Wolverine is so ferocious in its defense, that the bear goes away to find another meal. He can kill the Wolverine with little effort. But that effort, is much to costly in his eyes.
And i'd say Galactus as seen in Stormbreaker or in his battle with Tyrant, was in the celestial range of power. Average Celestial that is. To pass Exitar and Arishem, he'd have to be 75% and up.
Good post, great analogy. I might have to pull Stormbreaker out of the box though, cuz I don't remember Galactus doing anything terribly impressive.
Originally posted by Mider
he should have better feats meh, not even defeating thanos is that great a feat, i guess when he absorbed his spaceship which was solar system or galaxy sized dont remeber that was also a good feet, with galactus powers doom could manipulate reality, what else can i say in the FF comics galactus ate the entire celestial homeworld and did the same to the skrull homeworld he has very few good showings which are pretty pathetic but they have to find a way for him to job or else he'd just beat almost everyone and anyone.
lol...Defeating Thanos is no great feat? Not counting BS non-canon crossovers, I think the short list goes Galactus, Tarene the Designate, Adam Warlock, and depending on who you ask, Odin.
"She" is a Thor character. There are plenty of guys here who know more of the Thor stuff than me, but she's HELLA powerful. I believe she created Desaad, the God-Slayer, and if you know how powerful he is...
I think she was kidnapped by Thanos to use in combination with the Chalice of Ruins in another attempt at universal oblivion. It might be the one Thanos story I haven't read so somebody else will have to completely fill you in.