Originally posted by Wonder ManI believe Celestials are widely accepted to be above Galactus. Even the weakest being more powerful than a fully powered Galactus.
I don't think a Celestial is comparable to Galactus.
The one thing about Galactus is that this is his final go around.
Everyone in marvel knows that when he dies it signifies the end of the Universe.
Uh, I think that that angle has been dropped. I'm not sure.
Thaons can't be destroyed short of Galactus's death and the end of the Universe.
He can certainly be neutralized and bested. Being defeated doesn't always have to equate to being killed.
The only thing a Celestial in battle could do to him is wip up a prison.
And they would do it quite easily, too. They could also fry him if they choose to do so...sure he wouldn't 'die', but he wouldn't be much of a threat to anyone afterwards.
It would know that but it would also know that Thanos would come ready.
I'm sure he would come ready, but you need more than just readiness to take on a Celestial...meaning nothing short of the Infinity Gauntlet or the HOTU (which shouldn't even be mentioned in these discussions, as it doesn't even apply to Marvel 616).
But when it doesn't know what its looking at it is at a disadvantage.
Thanos would cloak himself in a fight with one.
You CAN'T be serious. You really believe that a Celestial wouldn't be able to detect a cloaked Thanos? I think you are seriously underrating the Celestials. All of Asgard couldn't make a Celestial bat an eye, you really think Thanos of Titan, a being CREATED by the work of Celestials, is going to even scratch them?
I mean I love Thanos...he's the ONLY reason I'm reading 'Annihilation', and my favourite character, by far...but I think more reading and less speculating is necessary. Let's not lose our heads.
Originally posted by King KAMIf you're looking at prep-time and cunning, then the same can be said about Dr. Doom. When I think 'most powerful' then I think strength and power.
Thanos is arguably second in Power, because he Can defeat anyone, brute strength is overrated, Fate favors the well prepared, and nobody, NOBODY comes better prepared than the mad titan. Thanos will Always bring a Gun to a knife fight, and the gun will probably be a gattling gun. And for that, he deserves a title in the top 5 most powerful in the MU.
Originally posted by Lord Sdoom gets prep and does absolutley nothing, he is Okay but he has a fatal flaw, which would stop him from ever being too big of a threat, Doom is still only a human, and at that, he is a power hungry one, Doom tries to cut too many corners because like 99% of humans he is impatient, and this causes his plans to foil most times.
I believe Celestials are widely accepted to be above Galactus. Even the weakest being more powerful than a fully powered Galactus.[b]The one thing about Galactus is that this is his final go around.
Everyone in marvel knows that when he dies it signifies the end of the Universe.Uh, I think that that angle has been dropped. I'm not sure.
Thaons can't be destroyed short of Galactus's death and the end of the Universe.
He can certainly be neutralized and bested. Being defeated doesn't always have to equate to being killed.
The only thing a Celestial in battle could do to him is wip up a prison.
And they would do it quite easily, too. They could also fry him if they choose to do so...sure he wouldn't 'die', but he wouldn't be much of a threat to anyone afterwards.
It would know that but it would also know that Thanos would come ready.
I'm sure he would come ready, but you need more than just readiness to take on a Celestial...meaning nothing short of the Infinity Gauntlet or the HOTU (which shouldn't even be mentioned in these discussions, as it doesn't even apply to Marvel 616).
But when it doesn't know what its looking at it is at a disadvantage.
Thanos would cloak himself in a fight with one.You CAN'T be serious. You really believe that a Celestial wouldn't be able to detect a cloaked Thanos? I think you are seriously underrating the Celestials. All of Asgard couldn't make a Celestial bat an eye, you really think Thanos of Titan, a being CREATED by the work of Celestials, is going to even scratch them?
I mean I love Thanos...he's the ONLY reason I'm reading 'Annihilation', and my favourite character, by far...but I think more reading and less speculating is necessary. Let's not lose our heads.
If you're looking at prep-time and cunning, then the same can be said about Dr. Doom. When I think 'most powerful' then I think strength and power. [/B]
Originally posted by King KAM
see.... this is where the lines of Strength and power get blurred...See strength is based on what thanos can do without any outside help. In which he would lose to any abstract, and is on Par with A Skyfather, which makes him extremeley formidable, but nowhere near untouchable.But comparing Thanos of Titan to any other Eternal of his Race is like comparing Godzilla to the Geico Gecko.
But I do beleive that Thanos is on of the most Powerful beings in the Universe. He may not posses the brute strength to take out abstracts such as Galactus and Chronos by himself, but he can definatley defeat them under his circumstances. Thanos is Marvels Ultimate Apex predator, No-one attempts to cross him, not odin, not big G. Becuase they are like a pack of Lions versus a human, yeah, in a straight up brawl, the human gets ripped apart, but if both allowed to use resources the lions still just come with teeth and claws, when the human comes with a Tank.
Thanos is arguably second in Power, because he Can defeat anyone, brute strength is overrated, Fate favors the well prepared, and nobody, NOBODY comes better prepared than the mad titan. Thanos will Always bring a Gun to a knife fight, and the gun will probably be a gattling gun. And for that, he deserves a title in the top 5 most powerful in the MU.
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Originally posted by King KAMThanos was put in his place by Odin. That shows whatever his power level is, it's slightly below a Skyfather.
see.... this is where the lines of Strength and power get blurred...See strength is based on what thanos can do without any outside help. In which he would lose to any abstract, and is on Par with A Skyfather, which makes him extremeley formidable, but nowhere near untouchable.But comparing Thanos of Titan to any other Eternal of his Race is like comparing Godzilla to the Geico Gecko.
But I do beleive that Thanos is on of the most Powerful beings in the Universe. He may not posses the brute strength to take out abstracts such as Galactus and Chronos by himself, but he can definatley defeat them under his circumstances. Thanos is Marvels Ultimate Apex predator, No-one attempts to cross him, not odin, not big G. Becuase they are like a pack of Lions versus a human, yeah, in a straight up brawl, the human gets ripped apart, but if both allowed to use resources the lions still just come with teeth and claws, when the human comes with a Tank.
Thanos is arguably second in Power, because he Can defeat anyone, brute strength is overrated, Fate favors the well prepared, and nobody, NOBODY comes better prepared than the mad titan. Thanos will Always bring a Gun to a knife fight, and the gun will probably be a gattling gun. And for that, he deserves a title in the top 5 most powerful in the MU.
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Thanos only killed a Celestial when he had the HOTU. On his own, his power is insufficent.
Originally posted by roughriderHe was referring to the fact that he had gotten an upgrade since then. I am unsure of his level currently
Thanos was put in his place by Odin. That shows whatever his power level is, it's slightly below a Skyfather.Thanos only killed a Celestial when he had the HOTU. On his own, his power is insufficent.
Originally posted by Big Sexythank you, and not only that, how did Thanos get put in his place by Odin??? That statement is rediculous, Odin was thought to be WAYYYY too much for Thanos, so, Thanos going toe-to-toe with him, and even taking hard shots from gungir, and SNATCHING it from Odin, only proved that Thanos was stronger than everyone ever thought.
He was referring to the fact that he had gotten an upgrade since then. I am unsure of his level currently
That fight was a feat for Thanos, and a reality check for Odin.
Originally posted by MJOILNIRthanos wasnt bleeding....and umm looks like he snatched that shit to me...
I dont know why people keep saying that he took gungir away from Odin, geez. He did take hold of it Ill give him that but after a short struggle he ended up on his back bleeding. Odin without a scratch holding Gungir.