Originally posted by Mr.V
I know man! Midnite got it going on, quite a badass character. and he looked cool in Constantine aswell (dmjoniou or something, some odd african name) He owned Constantine something bad.And xplosive well you do now hey? 😎 but really dude, the sig! its horrible! ahh.
Who cares about sig, man.
But it looks horrendous, it scares the children; and heck we cant be having that can we? but his face looks all crinky and nasty, he just one ugly mother ****er. and hey you know the clothes make the man? the sig is this forum's member's clothes man. seeing that makes me make think you got some crinkly head like that. (Even though you dont.. i hope 😐) and sigs need changing, you had that for ages 😄
Originally posted by King KAM
he is obviously in 2 completley different positions.
And if that's the best you Thanos supporters can do in order to prove he has god like reflexes (an IG wearing Thanos who could be ducking a little bit while Surfer missed), well, I'm sure you agree it isn't exactly solid evidence.
Thanos is sloooow 😈
Thanos wasn't fully depowered when he was fighting the heroes during the IG (ie. I don't remember him having the inherent ability to open portals through time). However, during that fight - Thanos was too slow to evade Wolverine's surprise attack but was fast enough to react to Surfer travelling at faster than lightspeed? That seems odd.
Originally posted by who?-kid
No he isn't. You need glasses. His position is of course a bit different, he isn't a statue (anymore).And if that's the best you Thanos supporters can do in order to prove he has god like reflexes (an IG wearing Thanos who could be ducking a little bit while Surfer missed), well, I'm sure you agree it isn't exactly solid evidence.
Thanos is sloooow 😈
Agreed.
It says in the scan that SURFER MISSED...not "Thanos dodges with godlike reflexes!!"
Also, Captain America is moving as well as Thanos, so unless CA has godlike speed and reflexes...Thanos is really slow...
Originally posted by King KAM
see.... this is where the lines of Strength and power get blurred...See strength is based on what thanos can do without any outside help. In which he would lose to any abstract, and is on Par with A Skyfather, which makes him extremeley formidable, but nowhere near untouchable.But comparing Thanos of Titan to any other Eternal of his Race is like comparing Godzilla to the Geico Gecko.
But I do beleive that Thanos is on of the most Powerful beings in the Universe. He may not posses the brute strength to take out abstracts such as Galactus and Chronos by himself, but he can definatley defeat them under his circumstances. Thanos is Marvels Ultimate Apex predator, No-one attempts to cross him, not odin, not big G. Becuase they are like a pack of Lions versus a human, yeah, in a straight up brawl, the human gets ripped apart, but if both allowed to use resources the lions still just come with teeth and claws, when the human comes with a Tank.
Thanos is arguably second in Power, because he Can defeat anyone, brute strength is overrated, Fate favors the well prepared, and nobody, NOBODY comes better prepared than the mad titan. Thanos will Always bring a Gun to a knife fight, and the gun will probably be a gattling gun. And for that, he deserves a title in the top 5 most powerful in the MU.
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Odin wouldn't cross him? 🙄
Odin practically sent him to his room without dinner. 😄
Odin didn't and wouldn't cross him. Odin believed he was justifiably defending his realm. Doom is the only character in MU who'd even debate it, and a LOT of power would have to be at stake for even him to try.
And as far as his reflexes, this is getting ridiculous people. W/o any scans whatsoever COMMON SENSE dictates Thanos of Titan has God-like reflexes. This is a guy who's fought guys like Drax, Thor and Hercules numerous times, including an insane Thor with the Power Gem. How could he even get a punch in or block a punch at all w/o reflexes to match these guys?
Plus, guys like Silver Surfer, Quasar, Drax, The Fallen One and Gladiator have all tried to speedblitz him numerous times only to be knocked on their ass or laughed at.
Thanos reflexes are fast enough that the Runner is the only character fast enough to speedblitz him. Find a new angle to hate him.
And we really need to stop crying "show me a scan" unless you are asking someone to prove a point that's not common knowledge. Kam is the one person here who's knowledge of The Mad Titan I KNOW equals or exceeds my own. That said, most here should trust what he says about Thanos.
Lastly if I claim GL rings can't produce force-fields then I probably haven't read any GL comics and therefore don't deserve a scan.
Re: Thanos vs. Celestial: Is Thanos Second?
Originally posted by Wonder Man
We all agree that Thanos is mad powerful.
See if you follow this logic.
Galactus is Top. Of course that is beneath the entities like Eternity and the exception like Phoenix.
Would it be fair to say that Thanos is second?
He seems to be more powerful than the Destroyer which can take down a Celestial.
Wouldn't that make Thanos more powerful than one too.
And couldn't he kick a Watcher's ass.
And of course the thing we all never mention about a fight....is that you have to be able to do it and get away with it.
To answer the original post, of all those who have a physical body:
1. Galactus
2. In Betweener
3. RKT
4. Thanos/Mangog
In a random encounter with no prep, Thanos doesn't the personal power to take on a celestial Destroyer cannot take out a celestial. Not even close. But that's the beauty of Thanos. He's the type of guy who scans the direction in which he's traveling for power signatures. He wouldn't be caught dead in the same space sectro as a celestial w/o a plan. And if he puts his mind to it...bye bye celestial.
Don't know much about the Watchers. They've always been portrayed as being "vastly powerful" but I know of no feats to their credit. Others seem to think they're above skyfathers but below Big G. So again, random encounter, perhaps Thanos goes down. With a plan...Thanos has a new observatory.
Originally posted by Crease
Odin didn't and wouldn't cross him. Odin believed he was justifiably defending his realm. Doom is the only character in MU who'd even debate it, and a LOT of power would have to be at stake for even him to try.And as far as his reflexes, this is getting ridiculous people. W/o any scans whatsoever COMMON SENSE dictates Thanos of Titan has God-like reflexes. This is a guy who's fought guys like Drax, Thor and Hercules numerous times, including an insane Thor with the Power Gem. How could he even get a punch in or block a punch at all w/o reflexes to match these guys?
Plus, guys like Silver Surfer, Quasar, Drax, The Fallen One and Gladiator have all tried to speedblitz him numerous times only to be knocked on their ass or laughed at.
Thanos reflexes are fast enough that the Runner is the only character fast enough to speedblitz him. Find a new angle to hate him.
And we really need to stop crying "show me a scan" unless you are asking someone to prove a point that's not common knowledge. Kam is the one person here who's knowledge of The Mad Titan I KNOW equals or exceeds my own. That said, most here should trust what he says about Thanos.
Lastly if I claim GL rings can't produce force-fields then I probably haven't read any GL comics and therefore don't deserve a scan.
Not only that, but Thanos has NO speed feats.
So when people claim Thanos has god like reflexes, it's not more than normal that other people ask them if they can back it up with at least some clear, non questionable scans showing us his impressive speed or reflexes skills, and not scans of Fallen One running into Thanos fist and calling that a speed feat for Thanos.
- Deathstroke has owned Flash more than once. Does that make him faster ? No.
- Spider-Man beat up Firelord. Does that make him faster ? No.
See where I'm going ?
And why would The Fallen One "run into" Thanos Fist? Last time:
"This is a guy who's fought guys like Drax, Thor and Hercules numerous times, including an insane Thor with the Power Gem. How could he even get a punch in or block a punch at all w/o reflexes to match these guys?
Plus, guys like Silver Surfer, Quasar, Drax, The Fallen One and Gladiator have all tried to speedblitz him numerous times only to be knocked on their ass or laughed at.
Thanos reflexes are fast enough that the Runner is the only character fast enough to speedblitz him. Find a new angle to hate him."
I don't know how else to say it. And it's not like I don't understand the reason for the hate. Not long ago I sarcastically referred to Batman as a skyfather because people kept claiming he could beat evry f****** body w/prep. Then I actually read his shit.
Once agin Who?-kid, you and I may have to agree to disagree.
Originally posted by Crease
This is a guy who's fought guys like Drax, Thor and Hercules numerous times, including an insane Thor with the Power Gem. How could he even get a punch in or block a punch at all w/o reflexes to match these guys?
Plus, guys like Silver Surfer, Quasar, Drax, The Fallen One and Gladiator have all tried to speedblitz him numerous times only to be knocked on their ass or laughed at.
Thanos reflexes are fast enough that the Runner is the only character fast enough to speedblitz him. Find a new angle to hate him."
I don't hate Thanos. I think - and you can quote me on that - he is one of the coolest Marvel villains. I just don't like the fact he's seriously overrated here on this forum.
I KNOW his achievements. Impressive. Fun to read also. But sorry, he has a huge Jobber Aura also. Heroes suddenly loose half their power when they fight him (Hey it's Thanos, let's all just punch him !)
=> How about using your speed guys ? Or working like a team for once ? Or those impressive magical abilities of that hammer of yours Thor ?? Or your speed and flight Surfer boy ??Once agin Who?-kid, you and I may have to agree to disagree.
No problem. That's what we are here for. To debate. I would get bored if everybody started agreeing with me. It would be a change though.
"Hey, those guys are no Flash or Quicksilver."
True. But two are legitamate Gods and Drax was created by a high-level cosmic (Chronos) so his reflexes may possibly be beyond God-like.
"Okay, these are faster, but they haven't tried to speed blitz him. Surfer for example almost NEVER uses his speed when he fights Thanos. He mostly stands there and he lets Thanos come very close - I know I'm exaggerating, but basically, that's a typical Thanos-Surfer fight."
Other than when drawing their speedsters (Quicksilver and whoever else) Marvel doesn't show actual blurrs when guys with superhuman speed go H2H. Cap America fighting Black Panther and Thor fighting Thanos appears to be happening at the same speed. You and I got no control over that.
"I don't hate Thanos. I think - and you can quote me on that - he is one of the coolest Marvel villains. I just don't like the fact he's seriously overrated here on this forum."
Good to know you respect The Mad Titan.
"I KNOW his achievements. Impressive. Fun to read also. But sorry, he has a huge Jobber Aura also. Heroes suddenly loose half their power when they fight him (Hey it's Thanos, let's all just punch him !)
=> How about using your speed guys ? Or working like a team for once ? Or those impressive magical abilities of that hammer of yours Thor ?? Or your speed and flight Surfer boy ??"
Writers often disregard the full scope of a character's abilities to suit what they'd like the outcome of a fight to be, or just to fill pages. Thor and the JLA are the best examples of that. But most of Thor and SS's powers wouldn't put Thanos down. So I don't think people job to him.
"No problem. That's what we are here for. To debate. I would get bored if everybody started agreeing with me. It would be a change though."
True. The majority of the time I post though I'm at work, hence the hour long gaps between my posts. Also, once we've both posted and rebutted the other's post multiple times, we kinda both realize that we are simply interpreting the comics differently. Like those of us who firmly believe Thanos stalemated Odin and was just getting started when he rose to his feat at the end of the fight, and those who think we're fanboys because, according to them, Odin spanked Thanos.
Don't worry. I read it nonetheless. I actually agreed with most stuff, except, of course, the Odin vs Thanos fight.
It's pretty simple: Odin was without a scratch, was dominating the fight and Thanos could barely walk at the end. Odin wins.
It was a great durability feat for Thanos, but nothing more.
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