Originally posted by amity75
Some people think "Oh nobody understands me and I hate myself and I'm gona kill myself like Kurt blah blah blah". Suicide is the most uncoolest thing you can do kids. Do you think you have problems? Put yourself on Omaha beach 62 years ago or put yourself in modern day Rwanda or Sierra Leonne. Suicide contemplaters = selfish turds.
Suicide is not chosen and it's not a persons fault. It happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain.
Suicide has nothing to do with comparing your problems to someone elses, you can't say "That's not enough to kill yourself over!" What is bearable to you may not be bearable to someone else, it's not the problem but how much the problem hurts someone.
Besides, arent these threads forbidden on KMC?
Originally posted by BlackC@
jawdropIf you don't like Nirvana, then you have the WORST taste in music.
You should be thrown out into the middle of the street and shot.
I like Nirvana, they are okay, but that statement is kind of silly.
Originally posted by BlackC@If you beleive that you don't believe in free will at all, right?
Suicide is not chosen and it's not a persons fault. It happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain.
Suicide has nothing to do with comparing your problems to someone elses, you can't say "That's not enough to kill yourself over!" What is bearable to you may not be bearable to someone else, it's not the problem but how much the problem hurts someone.Besides, arent these threads forbidden on KMC?
^ actually that statement has been proven many times by researchers, tharapists and psychoanalysts. suicide is the products of pain exceeding ability to cope with pain. it has nothing to do with free will. man does not just sit in the control room of a machine called the human body and take decisions reguardless of the state of the body without feeling anything and at his/her leisure. the will is dependant on the body and in most cases moulded, curbed and manipulated by the body exactly BECAUSE you FEAL. if YOUR definition of free will was true than a man would probably be thinking about some interesting game show seconds before he was about to be hanged instead of the fear of death because he had FREE WILL which had freedom even OVER the condition of the body and fear was not desireable but interesting gameshows were.
you takes things WAYYYY TOO SIMPLISTICALLY bardock42, almost shows ignorance arrogance and vanity.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^ actually that statement has been proven many times by researchers, tharapists and psychoanalysts. suicide is the products of pain exceeding ability to cope with pain. it has nothing to do with free will. man does not just sit in the control room of a machine called the human body and take decisions reguardless of the state of the body without feeling anything and at his/her leisure. the will is dependant on the body and in most cases moulded, curbed and manipulated by the body exactly BECAUSE you FEAL. if YOUR definition of free will was true than a man would probably be thinking about some interesting game show seconds before he was about to be hanged instead of the fear of death because he had FREE WILL which had freedom even OVER the condition of the body and fear was not desireable but interesting gameshows were.you takes things WAYYYY TOO SIMPLISTICALLY bardock42, almost shows ignorance arrogance and vanity.
I'm not denying it to be that way, I'm just saying if it is then there is no free will at all, m'kay? Get me? Not? Don't really care.
Yes I did at about the age of 16..........really considered driving my car off a bridge, though felt too bad that I would harm someone else in the process............glad I didn't though......having too much fun now, and I would of missed out!
Teen depression goes away no matter what you are going through...
Originally posted by BlackC@
Suicide is not chosen and it's not a persons fault.
In the case of those who are insane, I'd agree. Otherwise, I totally disagree and hate that no one is ever considered responsible for their actions anymore.
Originally posted by BlackC@
If you don't like Nirvana, then you have the WORST taste in music.You should be thrown out into the middle of the street and shot.
Back away from the computer, take a deep breath, get some perspective.
Originally posted by BlackC@
jawdropIf you don't like Nirvana, then you have the WORST taste in music.
You should be thrown out into the middle of the street and shot.
Yeah, listening to a middle class, fairly attractive, well paid white boy sing about being too put upon to live in this world is bad taste in music. I stand by my point. If he was too sad to live, then good riddence.
And I think your point should be that if I don't like Nirvana, I haven't bought into the MTV idea of popular music. By all means, shoot me in the streets, but that perspective wouldn't exactly coincide with your beloved Kurt Cobains idea of the world, would it? Dumb-ass.
Originally posted by KharmaDogI agree. But even insane people chose to be so, because such profound states of the human condition is the result of the choices, be they conscious or subconscious or unconscious that the soul makes in order to learn an complete the journey.
In the case of those who are insane, I'd agree. Otherwise, I totally disagree and hate that no one is ever considered responsible for their actions anymore.
Back away from the computer, take a deep breath, get some perspective.
All physical and mental illness result from a person's own fault - we are all 100% responsible for our own conditions and situations. Once we realise this, we begin to realise our own power to change our destinies and to drive our own lives to harmony and peace.
We all choose our bodies, lives, children, parents, friends, foes, etc., etc. though not always being aware of this in the superficial level of everyday consciousness, but there is a dimension of consciousness and energy that runs much deeper than daily life. It is this 'hidden' dimension of energy that truly directs our lives over an infinite number of lifetimes.
Remember, you are the result of your own karma.
Peace
Originally posted by Capt_FantasticExactly. I also don't feel sorry for other people who feel sorry for themselves like rotten apples.
Yeah, listening to a middle class, fairly attractive, well paid white boy sing about being too put upon to live in this world is bad taste in music. I stand by my point. If he was too sad to live, then good riddence.And I think your point should be that if I don't like Nirvana, I haven't bought into the MTV idea of popular music. By all means, shoot me in the streets, but that perspective wouldn't exactly coincide with your beloved Kurt Cobains idea of the world, would it? Dumb-ass.
I often think how easy it would be to end my pain and just do myself in. I guess if I were to do it, I'd jump off something really high so I could feel like I'm flying, then I'd close my eyes before I'd splat on the ground. Or, drive a car off a jump just to give people a thrill of a visual. But, I don't want to break my mom's heart, so I won't commit suicide.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Maybe not, but the important thing is that I'll never have to hear him whine into a microphone ever again.No, I've never considered suicide.
As for the topic, I've never seriously considered suicide.
Originally posted by Wonderer
I agree. But even insane people chose to be so, because such profound states of the human condition is the result of the choices, be they conscious or subconscious or unconscious that the soul makes in order to learn an complete the journey.All physical and mental illness result from a person's own fault - we are all 100% responsible for our own conditions and situations. Once we realise this, we begin to realise our own power to change our destinies and to drive our own lives to harmony and peace.
We all choose our bodies, lives, children, parents, friends, foes, etc., etc. though not always being aware of this in the superficial level of everyday consciousness, but there is a dimension of consciousness and energy that runs much deeper than daily life. It is this 'hidden' dimension of energy that truly directs our lives over an infinite number of lifetimes.
Remember, you are the result of your own karma.
Peace
Don't inject your spiritual beliefs into the complex system of chemical reactions of the brain, please. You'll only confuse the naive people who want to know what's real.
Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
I often think how easy it would be to end my pain and just do myself in. I guess if I were to do it, I'd jump off something really high so I could feel like I'm flying, then I'd close my eyes before I'd splat on the ground. Or, drive a car off a jump just to give people a thrill of a visual. But, I don't want to break my mom's heart, so I won't commit suicide.
You'd actually pass out and die of a heart attack before you hit the ground, so you don't have to worry about seeing yourself splatter. Im not telling you to do it, it's just a misconception that you are alive until you hit the ground.