I don't know how serious you were about considering suicide, but if you weren't talking out of your ass and you are in fact suicidal, it seems you're desperately trying to find an excuse to not blame yourself for making the choice to die, if you were to choose so.
That or you just want attention, so you don't mind continually ranting despite contradicting yourself at every turn and posting bad analogy after bad analogy.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^looks like no1 has ever heard the expression "bing PUSHED over the edge" . choice entails preferance. do you actually mean to say that most people in the world who do it do it out of choice as opposed to having run OUT of choices?!?! completely ridiculous.
Yes, they do do it out of choice. They make the choice to kill themselves. It's a choice because they voluntarily do it, they could choose not to do it.
Even if they've run out of option, they do, factually, always have the choice not to do it. You can lie all you want and say that they do not have this choice, but you'd be wrong as per fact.
And you're the only one misunderstanding anything, more specifically, you're apparently misunderstanding what the word "choice" actually means.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^looks like no1 has ever heard the expression "bing PUSHED over the edge" . choice entails preferance. do you actually mean to say that most people in the world who do it do it out of choice as opposed to having run OUT of choices?!?! completely ridiculous.
There is always a choice to not commit suicide, it is never unavoidable.
You will now reply "Yes it is, there's no other way out.". There is, they just choose to kill themselves.
Suicide is a choice. You can always choose to not do it. Being pushed over the edge is just being overwhelmingly convinced, through whatever circumstances, to make a certain choice.
If someone is depressed, truly, and something worse happens to make them want to leap into suicide, they're still CHOOSING to do it.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^no, it is semantics. just like the opposite of love can be hate and can also be indifference and the opposite of hate can also be love or indifference. its only a choice in the technical sense, for a great many, there is no choice.
No, the opposite of love is hate.
The opposite of cold is hot.
Indifference and warm respectively are variations, not opposites.
There is always a choice to stay alive. To try and say that people have zero other options besides killing themselves, and that being out of their control, is ridiculous and stupid. The only ignorance here is you, and the people who agree with you.
You are living proof of your argument being flawed. You've thought about suicide, allegedly, but you're still here. You made the choice not to. I don't believe you have, because I know from experience and knowing people who HAVE been/are genuinely depressed, that they last thing they want is attention and to speak about it.
-AC
Originally posted by GODADDY
I always thought love and had were very near and the opposite of love was abivalence.
No...ambivalence is like putting salt on water melon.
The antonym of love is hate.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There is always a choice to not commit suicide, it is never unavoidable.You will now reply "Yes it is, there's no other way out.". There is, they just choose to kill themselves.
Suicide is a choice. You can always choose to not do it. Being pushed over the edge is just being overwhelmingly convinced, through whatever circumstances, to make a certain choice.
If someone is depressed, truly, and something worse happens to make them want to leap into suicide, they're still CHOOSING to do it.
No, the opposite of love is hate.
The opposite of cold is hot.
Indifference and warm respectively are variations, not opposites.
There is always a choice to stay alive. To try and say that people have zero other options besides killing themselves, and that being out of their control, is ridiculous and stupid. The only ignorance here is you, and the people who agree with you.
You are living proof of your argument being flawed. You've thought about suicide, allegedly, but you're still here. You made the choice not to. I don't believe you have, because I know from experience and knowing people who HAVE been/are genuinely depressed, that they last thing they want is attention and to speak about it.
-AC
That's probably the 20th time that has been told to him in so many ways, good luck getting through.
There is:
Thinking seriosly about suicide as a teenager
and
Thinking seriously about suicide as an adult.
Distinction has got to be made.
What are your losses?
And will your friends and relatives lose?
if its debatable than there is obviosly an element that should be kindled. Batman Begins has a good quote: "why do we fall?" and the answer was "so that we can learn to pick ourselves up. "
You cannot expect to be perfect in life. You must falter to learn. and that knowledge becomes Experience.
That is exactly what life is. An Experience.
Second point is: "you did not make a situatiion wrong ; you simply learnt a way how not to make it right."
By being obtuse is how we all live today ; all inventors and pioneers from the past, whether in discovery fields of science, technology, plitics ...etc all succeeded in their related fileds by not giving up. i will not say 'simply' as it takes guts to manage to think out of the box and wriggle yourself out of the situation.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You're not considering it, just pondering the method you would choose if you were, yeah.I don't know what I'd do, something painless.
-AC
Yeah, seems pointless to put yourself through unnecessary agony. I mean if 'the pain' of living is so bad you have to kill yourself it'd be logical to choose the last painful way to go.
Then again some people just lack imagination or a taste for the grandiose.
I've said it once and I'll say it again. I'd like to explode. Something tasteful, yet with enough 'oomph' to leave a mark, preferably one 5 miles wide 😉
Either that or simply blowing my brains out with a handgun, possibly a revolver.