Are you not believing or not receiving?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Enough with the days, weeks, months, years thing, it’s childish. At the end of one of the gospels, there is a statement from the person who wrote it. I don’t remember, but you like to read the bible, so read the end of each or the gospels. The disciples of Jesus were common people, fishermen and the like. They would have not known how to right. Scribes did all the official writing of the time.

ERROR! "...for prophesy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit."

2 Peter 1:21

See Shaky, God used common people, sinners and the like. Jesus hung out with sinners. No one is good Shaky, but ONE. The statement that they would not have know to write is incorrect. You are once again making assumptions with no facts.

Do all Authors write thier own books or do they dictate to someone who puts it together for them?

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
ERROR! "...for prophesy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit."

2 Peter 1:21

See Shaky, God used common people, sinners and the like. Jesus hung out with sinners. No one is good Shaky, but ONE. The statement that they would not have know to write is incorrect. You are once again making assumptions with no facts.

Do all Authors write thier own books or do they dictate to someone who puts it together for them?

Your post is irrelevant.

These books were not written by the disciples of Jesus. They were written some 100 years later. Then over time they where changed and many where lost or destroyed by the Church under Constantine ~300 CE.

I’m not going to give you facts; I don’t have the time to put into it, plus you have not given any facts to prove your case.

I'm neither.

You would think Jesus would of wrote his own book. He was literate, since he got up to read in the Temple.....

But there are none.........makes you wonder why????

Originally posted by debbiejo
You would think Jesus would of wrote his own book. He was literate, since he got up to read in the Temple.....

But there are none.........makes you wonder why????

Maybe the Church hid them away because they didn't agree with Paul (the anti Christ). 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your post is irrelevant.

These books were not written by the disciples of Jesus. They were written some 100 years later. Then over time they where changed and many where lost or destroyed by the Church under Constantine ~300 CE.

I’m not going to give you facts; I don’t have the time to put into it, plus you have not given any facts to prove your case.

No facts Shaky? Not good man. 😕 This wouldn't hold up in the court of law. 🤣

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
No facts Shaky? Not good man. 😕 This wouldn't hold up in the court of law. 🤣

If you give facts then I'll take the time, otherwise, I don't care.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Maybe the Church hid them away because they didn't agree with Paul (the anti Christ). 😉

So, really Paul is anti Jesus...........

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your post is irrelevant.

I’m not going to give you facts; I don’t have the time to put into it, plus you have not given any facts to prove your case.

I have nothing to prove Shaky. I am the accused on this thread. It would be your job as the Prosecutor in the court of Law to prove the innocent as guilty.

This is the Case to disprove:

1. The Bible is not the word of God.

2. Jesus is not who He said He was.

Simple as that friends.

"Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him."

Proverbs 30:5

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
I have nothing to prove Shaky. I am the accused on this thread. It would be your job as the Prosecutor in the court of Law to prove the innocent as guilty.

This is the Case to disprove:

1. The Bible is not the word of God.

2. Jesus is not who He said He was.

Simple as that friends.

"Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him."

Proverbs 30:5

No!

I say the bible is just a book. You claim that it is more. All I have to prove is that it is a book, and I can go down to a book store and prove that.

I say Jesus was a person. You claim that he was more. I agree, he was more, and so are you and me. We are all sons and daughters of God.

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
I have nothing to prove Shaky. I am the accused on this thread. It would be your job as the Prosecutor in the court of Law to prove the innocent as guilty.

This is the Case to disprove:

1. The Bible is not the word of God.

2. Jesus is not who He said He was.

Simple as that friends.

"Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him."

Proverbs 30:5

How many times must it be explained to you that a negative cannot be proven and that one making a positive claim has the burden of proof to substantiate it?

In a criminal court case, the prosecutor makes a positive claim, i.e. the defendent is guilty, and has the burden of proof to substantiate that claim. Similarly, you are making a positive claim, i.e. the Bible is the inerrant word of God. Therefore, you have the burden of proof to substantiate that:

[list=1][*]A god exists.

[*]This god is the same one that you believe in.

[*]The Bible is indeed inerrant.

[*]The Bible is inspired by God.[/list]

By all means, start proving.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No!

I say the bible is just a book. You claim that it is more. All I have to prove is that it is a book, and I can go down to a book store and prove that.

I say Jesus was a person. You claim that he was more. I agree, he was more, and so are you and me. We are all sons and daughters of God.

The Bible is a book=Correct!

Jesus was a person=Correct!

100% correct so far! 💃

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How many times must it be explained to you that a negative cannot be proven and that one making a positive claim has the burden of proof to substantiate it?

In a criminal court case, the prosecutor makes a positive claim, i.e. the defendent is guilty, and has the burden of proof to substantiate that claim. Similarly, you are making a positive claim, i.e. the Bible is the inerrant word of God. Therefore, you have the burden of proof to substantiate that:

[list=1][*]A god exists.

[*]This god is the same one that you believe in.

[*]The Bible is indeed inerrant.

[*]The Bible is inspired by God.[/list]

By all means, start proving.

He has done it for me. Read Romans Chapter 1. 🙂

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
He has done it for me. Read Romans Chapter 1. 🙂

Who is "He"? 😕

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
He has done it for me. Read Romans Chapter 1. 🙂

Read a logic textbook. God exists because the Bible says so, and the Bible is inerrant because God says so? Nice circular reasoning. Try again.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Who is "He"? 😕

Please join my new thread.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Read a logic textbook. God exists because the Bible says so, and the Bible is inerrant because God says so? Nice circular reasoning. Try again.

Please join my new thread.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yes, Paul taught against what Jesus was teaching in many areas.........yep

So, really Paul is anti Jesus...........

Please join my new thread.

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
Please join my new thread.

Please substantiate the claim you made, i.e. the Bible is the inerrant word of God instead of retreating into another thread.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Please substantiate the claim you made, i.e. the Bible is the inerrant word of God instead of retreating into another thread.

This is futile Adam_PoE,

You would not listen anyway...

He has already revealed Himself, but mankind has suppressed the truth. 😮