The Hills Have Eyes

Originally posted by BackFire
So no violence should be shown in films, right? Since every act of violence is going to offend someone somewhere and hit someone too close to home. Of course not.

I dunno why you're ashamed to be a part of these forums. Nothing shameful about people looking at something objectively and honestly.

There's making a POINT, and then there's making a STATEMENT. Aja made a point, then obliterated it by oversupporting his cause, as cited by me in the last post.

The shame comes in associating with people who will gladly justify graphic rape in movies because it gets across points that are already established, and think nothing of it, the people its affected, the consequences, or the opinion/fact that it's used unabashedly, just to soldify a characters already obvious disposition.

Rape/revenge movies make a point. This was just smut for entertainment sake.

Originally posted by Suleyman
Screw the people who have lost loved ones to murder. We're jaded, so it's alright to show people getting roasted alive, shot in the face, hacked to pieces. But for God's sake don't show any sexual violence, because that crosses the line.

"Rape is awesome"? Where the hell did you get that? And yes, people go to horror films because they see horrible, scary things in them that aren't represented in other genres. Are you honestly disputing that? If no one could handle being challenged or offended, everyone would just turn their brains off and watch Big Momma's House 2.

So am I, given that I share it with a guy who likes insinuating that people who disagree with his cinematic morality support rape.

Sexual domination and rape is MUCH more personal an act that murder ever could be. If you think that SHOWING a little girl or mother being raped is "necessary" to get across an already obvious point, I think you're out of touch in some respects, yes.

As for where I got that someone thinks rape is awesome..well..

Originally posted by ILoveMyDaniel

I'm one of the few women that actually do around here. Women get grossed out easily whereas I sit back and say "That...was...AWESOME!"

I'm through with you guys. Sorry you couldn't understand my views.

Originally posted by C-Dic
There's making a [b]POINT, and then there's making a STATEMENT. Aja made a point, then obliterated it by oversupporting his cause, as cited by me in the last post.

The shame comes in associating with people who will gladly justify graphic rape in movies because it gets across points that are already established, and think nothing of it, the people its affected, the consequences, or the opinion/fact that it's used unabashedly, just to soldify a characters already obvious disposition.

Rape/revenge movies make a point. This was just smut for entertainment sake. [/B]

The point is already established, but the scene fleshes it out more and creates more tension and hatred, thus making it MORE established. When the hippy guy goes and kills the mutants it's far more satisfying because these mutants are rapists AND murderers.

I justify any freedom of expression when it comes to films, this includes rape. I don't think there should be any censorship or taboos in film, artists should be free to show and portray what they want. If you aren't comfortable with specific acts, that's why ratings are there. The rape scene was being talked about quite a bit back when the movie was originall released, you should have known there was a rape scene in it and simply stayed away from it since you want no part of such scenes. Personal responsibility needs to come into play here.

And how would you know that rape is more personal than murder? You think if someones mother is murdered that it's easier to endure for her loved ones than if she was raped? Come on.

I understand your views, C-Dic, as do others, we just don't agree that rape should be cut off from film anymore than murder should. Sine they're both as affecting and offensive to those who have suffered through them in real life. It's you who don't understand us.

i have to agree there.

wow, this is a deep conversation we have going here. I for one did want to see this film at the movies but i didn't get around to it, so i am hoping to hire/buy it on dvd.

Could someone please explain to me the differances between the versions of the film on dvd??

Someone at the video store was talking about how she doesn't want the rated version 'cause it's too fake or something like that. She was talking about it in disgust. It shut her up when I told her the unrated version is a minute longer.

a minute longer?? is it meant to be more gruesome or somthing lol??

gosh by the sounds of it that lady was a bit stuck up

With pretty much all of the unrated DVDs coming out, they just add a few minutes to the movie so they can honestly call it "unrated". The original 107 min version was rated R by the MPAA. Add a minute to it and it's a completely new movie that the MPAA hasn't rated. Slap "unrated" on it and it sells more DVDs because it looks uncensored.

interesting...does the unrated version come with different extra's?