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Originally posted by BackFire349
titanic personifies everything that is wrong with the film industry.

No........ the thing that is wrong with the film industry is snobs like you. It's a film made for one thing. ENTERTAINMENT!

Why can't you accept that to make a film of this scale requires a lot of skill, talent and dedication?

You criticised directors like James Cameron and Michael Bay but next time you do remember this.......... "they know a hell of a lot more about film making than you ever will!"

and the difference beetween those two, is that cameron made a commercial film with mass-appeal that got good critics, whilst Bay mostly make high-grossing, but BAD films.

Well thats your opinion. I personnally love his films.

The scripts may have been bad (especially Pearl Harbor) but he has a highly original visual style and wonderful creativity with his mise-en-scene.

it requires a lot of money. films that require lots of talent are films like american beauty, requiem for a dream, and movies that are made for the sole reason of making money *every micheal bay movie, titanic, etc* are whats wrong with the film industry.

and how can i be wrong with the film industry, im not in the industry. i just give my opinions. and they obviously hit you close to home since you get upset over them. 🙄

Nah! Crap response.

While the films you selected do have a lot of talent, at the end of the day, you are just being snobbish and narrow minded.

Are you telling me, that to recreate the sinking of the Titanic and the bombing of Pearl Harbor requires no talent?

well with a big enough budget, yes.

No, the bigger budget just supports them. They still have to go out and do it!

like i said to thomas h, i like the some of the generic action movies. *gone in 60 seconds, the rock* but they are in no way quality films, they are just fun to watch sometimes. and when their are so many films coming out like that, thats whats wrong with the film industry.

not really, they just need some computer programmers, id like to see micheal bay make a movie like american beauty, or one flew over the cuckoos nest, he cant because he's not talented enough.

Remember this. Directors still have to choose the angle, wot is happening in the frame, character position etc in CGI shots.

The Rock is one of the most exciting action films I have ever seen. To excite and entertain and audience requires talent.

Could Michael Bay direct a film and American Beauty and Cukoos Nest? Well I don't know, his four only films have belonged to the action genre.

Could Sam Mendes direct a highly exciting action film?

yes i think he could, his talent far exceeds bays, road to perdition has some action in it after all. so if he wanted to he could make a whole movie like that.

But how do you know. Bay hasn't had the chance to be very versatile yet.

Give him a chance. Besides, he has won awards for music videos and commercials.

oh wow 🙄

dont be sarcastic. directing music videos and commercials is a field of work i want to break through in.

its not something to brag about as far as awards go though.

I cant believe you guys are arguing over Michael Bay!
He doesn't deserve it!

well the only other argument that is going on right now on these forums are about goldmember, and i havent seen that yet so im kinda stuck 😛

Yeah well congratulations all the same.

This thread you started is up to 78, almost unheard of in the Movie Discussion Forum.

And all thanks to Michael Bay! 😛

Originally posted by BackFire349
well with a big enough budget, yes.