Well, I still think that telepathy would work on him - coz even in tht ^ he still communicates to Jean tht he is "everywhere"! So, ye either TP followed by removement of water molecules from rouge, then either electrolysis or a large lump of potassium, i think both answer this question.
But let's say the X-men had no prep time, to get supplies. Bobby is leaving the mansion and training in the grounds outside are:-
Pyro
Strom
WOlverine
Colossus
SHadowcat
Nightcrawler
Proffesor X
Cyclops
ROuge
Magma
Could he be stopped permanently now?
When he says everywhere it isn't telepathy it's out loud. There's no indication there that when his consciousness is widely dispersed telepathy can be used on him. Electrolysis isn't going to work considering they can't tell where he is and he can turn from vapour to liquid to solid and back. If his consciousness is dispersed in all the ambient water it would all have to be ionised to kill him, and that would likely to include the water vapour in their own lungs. Additionally he can just drain the water from their bodies...
So in terms of those characters you put forth, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Shadowcat, Wolverine and Cyclops can do nothing as their powers are physical, Rogue is also useless as her nonphysical power can't be used on him, and if this is SunfireRogue, she Magma and Pyro are useless too. That leaves Storm who can try and attack him to no avail and the Professor who can try an attack a disembodied, dispersed consciousness which no one has yet shown possible on Iceman.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
You mean like in NXM when the Shiar were attacking and she directed the visitors to safety? I think there were 75 people at the time.
Granted Jean is powerful.
But that's not being creative that's just means she's really good at basic mind control.
Screwing with the brains functions IMO is a far more interesting feat then mere probing and mind control. Auto-cloaking, bypassing telepathic blockers messing with the biological functions of the body. All of these are far more interesting then mind control and probing.
Anyway...
TP works on Bobby when he's in his Ice form. Not sure about his vapour/liquid form, but since the thread doesn't state that Bobby starts off in his vapour form he'll get mind wiped before he can do anything.
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I don't think he needs to change into a vapour form per se. He can simply transfer or disperse his consciousness to another body of water he's in contact with (or maybe even not in contact with) i.e. the ambient atmosphere leaving behind an ice 'husk' so to speak. The thread says he's reached his full nigh-unlimited potential.
And yes I'd agree making a crowd of annoying protesters orgasm is a far more creative way to use telepathy.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't think he needs to change into a vapour form per se. He can simply transfer or disperse his consciousness to another body of water he's in contact with (or maybe even not in contact with) i.e. the ambient atmosphere leaving behind an ice 'husk' so to speak. The thread says he's reached his full nigh-unlimited potential.And yes I'd agree making a crowd of annoying protesters orgasm is a far more creative way to use telepathy.
In that case they all die...Iceman wins.
All that scan shows is that Jean asked a question. It didn't say that she tried to find him via TP and that she couldn't. She has a telepathic rapport with Scott, yet she asks him if he's there sometimes. I have yet to see any evidence that TP wouldn't work on him if his mind is disembodied. As I said before, it's still a mind.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
All that scan shows is that Jean asked a question. It didn't say that she tried to find him via TP and that she couldn't. She has a telepathic rapport with Scott, yet she asks him if he's there sometimes.So making people stand still is more creative than making them move and masking their minds to the danger around them? If that works for you.
Again, Jean is just displaying a common telepathic feat(Emma has displayed that kind of common feat countless of times one example is during the Onslaught Saga. ), nothing creative about that. Cutting off someones neurons is a very creative feat as is giving someone an orgasm. Screwing with the subconscience brain functions has always been more creative then common telepathic probing and mind control.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Again, Jean is just displaying a common telepathic feat(Emma has displayed that kind of common feat countless of times one example is during the Onslaught Saga. ), nothing creative about that. Cutting off someones neurons is a very creative feat as is giving someone an orgasm. Screwing with the subconscience brain functions has always been more creative then common telepathic probing and mind control.
In the end everyone finds what they're looking for, I guess.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
I suppose to me the point of what is done matters than what is actually done. Making seven people stand there while you taunt them isn't particularly impressive or creative to me, and it does nothing to really further the plot of the story. And most TPs worth their salt have manipulated neurons and synapses at one time or another. Jean's no exception. She's dulled her teammates pain during battle to keep them conscious, jumped into the mind of dying people, etc.In the end everyone finds what they're looking for, I guess.
Maybe, but getting the job done doesn't necessarily scream creativity. If Jean and Emma were faced with the same situation both of them would utilize their powers in different ways to get the job done. Emma's method IMO would be more creative.
For example if they both had to take out a person with their TP, Emma would give them an orgasm attack until they pass out, Jean on the other hand would just go for the common approach and put them to sleep. Emma has cloaked her Hellions from Cerebro by rearranging their mutant brain signals which is a very odd feat. Emma's "Psychic Surgery Ability" is also a very odd feat for a telepath. Emma has used her abilities to study off people, I think Jean has done this aswell. That Cloaking feat Emma taught Rachel is also a very unique feat. As is her Psi-Blast which she has tweaked to suit herself. Emma has placed herself in a psychic coma in order to survive, Jean then displaced her mind into Emma's shell of a body, which I believe Xavier said is the thing most telepaths would have done if they were faced with Death.(And somehow Emma's body used telekinesis)
IMO Emma uses her TP in a far more interesting and entertaining manner.
Jean has Power, Emma has Creativity and both have skill.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Granted Jean is powerful.
But that's not being creative that's just means she's really good at basic mind control.
Screwing with the brains functions IMO is a far more interesting feat then mere probing and mind control. Auto-cloaking, bypassing telepathic blockers messing with the biological functions of the body. All of these are far more interesting then mind control and probing.Anyway...
TP works on Bobby when he's in his Ice form. Not sure about his vapour/liquid form, but since the thread doesn't state that Bobby starts off in his vapour form he'll get mind wiped before he can do anything.
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OH! 😱
The hunt for an all new all different wolverine. Hows that going to turn out 😛
