Darth Revan Vs Palpatine

Don't you love it when your opponent makes you look so much better because of his own stupidity? Thank you Sidious🙂

Vitiate's supposed ability to destroy planets by himself is to be taken with a grain of salt. Secondly, if Meetra didn't save Revan (where she actually could have killed the Emperor himself), he would have died. he put up a decent fight against the Emperor, but I don't see how he'd put up a better one against palpatine. also, there's no documentation of Revan ever using the Thought bomb on his own, so we cant assume he can use it, same as the thing about vitiate destroying planets by himself.

It took Revan to channel equal parts light and dark just to hold off the emperor temporarily. This isn't DE Sidious, this is ROTS Sidious as far as I know, so it's going to be any harder for Revan.

Yeah, vitiate + nexus = RotS sidious, but Revan didn't fare too well against vitiate so...

Vitiate+Nexus=RotS Sidious? How did you come up with that equation?

what has vitiate done off-nexus to legitimately put him above RotS sidious, in a combat situation? Because the only one I can think of is his charged FLS to overpower the jedi strike team, a team holding only 2 fighters worthy of note.

If you're going to use the excuse that Vitiate is always in a nexus (nevermind that he pretty much is one), then I'll counter with the fact that Sidious is also a living breathing nexus and therefore, hasn't done much without it.

Um, no? That would both be their individual power. But most, if not all, of Sidious's combat feats are done off-planetary nexuses, while vitiate's most impressive one (defeating Revan, being considered a match for revan/meetra/scourge trio) is done on a nexus.

Vitiates best feat is easily defeating a team of the 5 most powerful Jedi in the galaxy at the same time imo. Which wasn't on a nexus.

ah yes, the FLS. Would such an attack come to bear upon Palpatine? I mean he does have mastery over force maelstrom, and (as far as I know) is much faster than anyone on the hoT strike team. Plus I think He would be able to keep Vitiate from using such an attack, since it takes precious seconds to charge.

That wasn't the Force Lightning Storm that beat them all. He uses the FLS to slow them down while to charges up and unleashes a blast of lightning to beat them all.

still gets the point across, it takes precious time to charge, time in which palpatine can also unleash a devastating ability, probably more quickly as well

And what ability would that be? His best and most likely only hope is to get in close and slice Vitiate up. I wonder how many copies of himself Vitiate would create.

slice-up
force lightning
force maelstrom
TK
simply outspeeding him, so vitiate would have tough time accurately directing his FLS.

Force lightning? You've got to be joking. TK? Lol. Force Maelstrom? Lol. I'd stick with a saber battle.

excuse me, what? A simple "Lol" is an adequate reponse? Do you even know what the force maelstrom ability does? He creates an impenetrable barrier of force energy, note the word "impenetrable", while hurling "lightning grenades" and bolts of lightning simultaneously. Sidious's lightning has left foes as charred husks, and it's useless?

Vitiate tanked his own lightning getting thrown back at him. Likewise an Imperial Guard was able to nullify Revan's powerful TK just by drawing off of Vitiates power, so it doubt that will work either. Force Maelstrom is simply a combination of the two and likely takes time to set up. His best bet is lightsabers but Vitiate has dealt with those tactics before.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Vitiate tanked his own lightning getting thrown back at him. Likewise an Imperial Guard was able to nullify Revan's powerful TK just by drawing off of Vitiates power, so it doubt that will work either. Force Maelstrom is simply a combination of the two and likely takes time to set up. His best bet is lightsabers but Vitiate has dealt with those tactics before.

... on a nexus, and it was only one small bolt. Ok, has vitiate ever faced anyone nearly as fast or skilled with a lightsaber as Palpatine? Didn't think so. Ok, I guess getting blasted with the most powerful lightning in the mythos, you're still perfectly capable of directing a FLS.

You're desperately trying to rationalize.

Vitiate is directly noted as more of a scholar than a warrior, and for good reason. He gained his immense power through the use of many rituals, and has never even been noticed to use a lightsaber. If he was defeated by the HoT (although vitiate was weakened to an extent, he was also on arguably the most powerful dark side nexus in the galaxy), Palpatine can also beat him.