Wolverine's claws vs. SKIN!!!!!!

Originally posted by Metalmanx
The adamantium may not, but Wolverine sure has plenty of give in the form of a severe lack of strength. That, and well, joints, ligaments, and such.

Those things = give.

legs outstreched = no give..

seriously.. I can't believe we're debating the entirety of that event being PIS contingent upon literally.. FLAKES of skin.. it's rather stupid..

Originally posted by jinzin
legs outstreched = no give..

seriously.. I can't believe we're debating the entirety of that event being PIS contingent upon literally.. FLAKES of skin.. it's rather stupid..

I don't even know the scene your debating. I'm just debating how Wolverine would HAVE to have give despite his adamantium bones.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't even know the scene your debating. I'm just debating how Wolverine would HAVE to have give despite his adamantium bones.

but his bones not giving was one of the points of the scene.. it's a few pages back..

Originally posted by jinzin
why would I need to look at the pic again..? I've seen it and even drew on it in pretty colors to help you understand the material.. I'm obviously not the one who needs to be educated on what took place.. 🙄

On ONE set of tippy toes.. funny how you keep forgetting that..

NO. IT. WOULDN'T... god I swear.. you MUST have a comprehension deficiency.. there's no other explination for your continued ignorance unless you're just plain ignoring me altogether...
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look wolverine starts out in front of ben and ben takes a swing.. wolverine jumps TO THE SIDE.. not behind ben.. TO THE SIDE.. look at the pic again.. wolverine clearly jumps..... TO.... THE... SIDE. He's at ben's 45 all that ben would have had to do to make that kick happen is drop his arm down past his face.. which he did....

and again.. you're saying that logan doesn't have the force to do what GRAVITY ALONE is capible of.... wolverine can't kick down a SKYSCRAPER but if the complex is off balance for some reason a gust of wind is all it's going to take to be put it to the ground.. wolverine is not a gust of wind.. he's a mutant with a higher strength level than ultimate captain america.. and an admantium skeleton...
look normal martial artists.. (guys who dont' even have ONE THIRD of the necessary stats to be a peak human) can generate through a kick 2 THOUSAND pounds of pressure PER SQUARE INCH into an attack.. that alone is more force than is generated during car wrecks... now you factor in that logan is anywhere from 5 to 8 times stronger than these guys anyways.. and the fact that you think he doesn't have the power to do what gravity can take care of on it's own it just ridiculous!

because nothing I've said so far has catered to your hatred of wolverine or your fanboy love of thing.. that's not surprising actually.. 🙄

Ultimate Wolverine is no stronger than Ultimate Cap ❌

Ok say im leaning forward on my toes.

Say someone throws a book at my face. Thats about what its like for Ben here 😐

Besides, your missing a major point here! Ben is leaning FORWARD!

How can he be leaning forward then knocked backwards by Wolverine's kick 🤨

Wolverine is definitly not strong enougth to push Thing none the less kick him

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Your wrong. He states that organic steel is strong but no match for pure adamantium. Nothing was said about claws. Adamantium is stronger than Colossus. We know this.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Why does Colossus fear the claws you ask? That's simple. In UXM ann. #6 Colossus himself was under the influence of Rachael Van Helsing

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Bottom line is you can't show a scan of Wolverine doing any real damage to Colossus.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Hopes and dreams.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ultimate Wolverine is no stronger than Ultimate Cap ❌

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ok say im leaning forward on my toes.

Say someone throws a book at my face. Thats about what its like for Ben here 😐

Besides, your missing a major point here! Ben is leaning FORWARD!

How can he be leaning forward then knocked backwards by Wolverine's kick 🤨

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wolverine is definitly not strong enougth to push Thing none the less kick him

Originally posted by riceroost
If you look at the context the statment was made in, it is clearly referring to organic steel being no match for adamantium claws. Use some common sense. Claremont wouldn't need to tell us organic steel is weaker than adamantium, we already knew that long before this issue. He is clearly speaking of organic steel's durability in relation to Wolverine's adamantium claws. And the answer is, organic steel is no match.

1) Colossus was under the influence of Lilith, not Van Helsing.
2) You assume the other X-Men didn't talk to Wolverine or Colossus about what happened. They would have told them, since Colossus didn't remember a thing. And they would have told him the damage to his chest was caused by Wolverine.
3) Colossus does remember when Sym threw Wolverine's adamantium claw at him. The claw penetrated him then too. Colossus wasn't under mental control when this happened.
4) Colossus is never just afraid of anything. He is afraid of Wolverine's claws. Since Colossus is invulnerable he never just assumes anything can hurt him. He would have to have a reason to shy away. Either Xavier told him after testing that adamantium claws could hurt himor he has seen Wolverine cut through things that are more durable than Colossus is.

1) I dont have a scanner, so I can't show anyone anything.
2) Every time Wolverine's claws have hit Colossus they have done damage.
3) Show me a scan of Colossus not being hurt by adamantium claws.
4) Colossus is not completely impervious to all physical harm. Wolverine's claws do cut through anything. Therefor Colossus will be cut.
Are all that you have brought to this argument.

Hopes and dreams. 💃

If Wolverine damaged Colossus during that incident why doesn't he show it after words? Colossus does not remember getting attacked by Wolverine.

Originally posted by riceroost
And the answer is, organic steel is no match.

Originally posted by riceroost

2) You assume the other X-Men didn't talk to Wolverine or Colossus about what happened. They would have told them, since Colossus didn't remember a thing. And they would have told him the damage to his chest was caused by Wolverine.

Originally posted by riceroost
In Ultimate X-Men Wolverine is strong enough to jump up through a house (He starts on the ground floor) crashes through the cieling and the roof, and his jump takes him some 50 feet above the roof. Later in that issue he breaks out of a block of solid ice and then does another Hulk jump over a bunch of trees, before landing in front of an 18 wheeler. I never saw Ultimate Captain America do anything like that.

Thing was leaning forward. Wolverine dashes around and Thing. Wolverine didn't kick him head on, he clearly dodges around him to kick him from the side, using Thing's movement against him.
Thing not getting knocked over by a truck is just stupid. A bazooka knocked him off his feet. A truck should send him flying. Considering Ultimate Thing is only about 1650 lbs Wolverine (Who can jump nearly 100 feet in the air using leg strength) shouldn't have much problem kicking him over, especially when Thing's off balance and getting kicked from the side.

What issue was this? I have all 13 volumes of Ultimate X-men that are out. Is this something new or a cross-over?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
My arguement still stands for you.

Hopes and dreams. 💃

It also makes sense. Wolverine can cut Thing, Namor, Green Hulk, Thanos........but not Colossus???

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Wolverine damaged Colossus during that incident why doesn't he show it after words?

Doesn't change the fact that Colossus' organic steel is no match for adamantium claws. Claremont is on my side. What have you got?

Originally posted by riceroost

You can't debate he was damaged in this incident. It says Colossus was cut. It says he's not durable enough to take the hit. He doesn't say anything when he comes to his senses because he has no clue where he is obviously. He's probably more concerned about Kitty. It's not like Wolverine tore a huge hole in his chest, he barely touched Colossus before he was thrown off. The wound wasn't serious enough to worry about right away.

Doesn't change the fact that Colossus' organic steel is no match for adamantium claws. Claremont is on my side. What have you got?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wow. Talk about making sh!t up. 😆 How do you know Colossus was hurt? Did Claremont tell you? All it says is it scratched him. Like I said Wolvies claws can do NO REAL DAMAGE.

Keep in mind Colossus nearly died from having Riptide barely penetrate the surface of the armor with some throwing stars made of bone or some such thing.

Prove me wrong. Why dont you try putting forth some evidence.

Originally posted by riceroost
Keep in mind Colossus nearly died from having Riptide barely penetrate the surface of the armor with some throwing stars made of bone or some such thing.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
😐 Yes the standard material for making throwing stars is bone.

Originally posted by riceroost
In Ultimate X-Men Wolverine is strong enough to jump up through a house (He starts on the ground floor) crashes through the cieling and the roof, and his jump takes him some 50 feet above the roof. Later in that issue he breaks out of a block of solid ice and then does another Hulk jump over a bunch of trees, before landing in front of an 18 wheeler. I never saw Ultimate Captain America do anything like that.

Thing was leaning forward. Wolverine dashes around and Thing. Wolverine didn't kick him head on, he clearly dodges around him to kick him from the side, using Thing's movement against him.
Thing not getting knocked over by a truck is just stupid. A bazooka knocked him off his feet. A truck should send him flying. Considering Ultimate Thing is only about 1650 lbs Wolverine (Who can jump nearly 100 feet in the air using leg strength) shouldn't have much problem kicking him over, especially when Thing's off balance and getting kicked from the side.

How is Thing not even feeling a truck hitting him stupid 😐

Oh and Wolverine cannot jump that high. That was a Wolverine possessed by Prof. X's son, who had the ability to do that with anyone, not just Wolverine ❌

I didn't think the Ultimates were canon.

Originally posted by riceroost
In Ultimate X-Men Wolverine is strong enough to jump up through a house (He starts on the ground floor) crashes through the cieling and the roof, and his jump takes him some 50 feet above the roof. Later in that issue he breaks out of a block of solid ice and then does another Hulk jump over a bunch of trees, before landing in front of an 18 wheeler. I never saw Ultimate Captain America do anything like that.

Thing was leaning forward. Wolverine dashes around and Thing. Wolverine didn't kick him head on, he clearly dodges around him to kick him from the side, using Thing's movement against him.
Thing not getting knocked over by a truck is just stupid. A bazooka knocked him off his feet. A truck should send him flying. Considering Ultimate Thing is only about 1650 lbs Wolverine (Who can jump nearly 100 feet in the air using leg strength) shouldn't have much problem kicking him over, especially when Thing's off balance and getting kicked from the side.

Cap was fighting Hulk h2h 😐

Wolverine did that and got ripped in half. N'uff Said 😉

Your logic for Ben being knocked down by Wolverine makes no sense. Neither you nor Jizin have proved anything with your statements and it remains blatent PIS

Originally posted by badabing
I didn't think the Ultimates were canon.

How was the Ultimates not in continuity 😐

They are in Ultimate canon so it is their own universe

Originally posted by Broly92
They are in Ultimate canon so it is their own universe