in stopping power.. not in durability.. this is akin with the rocket theory...
rockets may generate more force when being launched at ben but they will collapse on impact nonetheless.. same with a truck.. admantium won't plain and simple.. admantium would have no give to it... the truck would fold up like an accordion...
Originally posted by jinzin
in stopping power.. not in durability.. this is akin with the rocket theory...rockets may generate more force when being launched at ben but they will collapse on impact nonetheless.. same with a truck.. admantium won't plain and simple.. admantium would have no give to it... the truck would fold up like an accordion...
This has nothing to do with Adamantium's durability 😐
Besides adamantium is unbreakable, but it dosent absorb shock like Vibranium ❌
Originally posted by Grimm22
This has nothing to do with Adamantium's durability 😐
it has EVERYTHING to do with admantium's durability.. admantium has NO GIVE to it.. NO GIVE WHATSOEVER.. the truck that hit ben would fold and crack like an accordion.. admantium won't... it's like getting a champion weight lifter to hit a standing peice of wood with a cardboard bat.. the force generated doesn't mean a damned thing cause the cardboard isn't durable enough to do anything to the stick... but you give a little kid a metal rebarb pipe and have him take a swing the stick explodes into debris... the force isn't important here the durability is.. and the same basic principle applies to this as well.. why you can't see that is beyond me...
Originally posted by Grimm22what does that have to do with ANYTHING? 🤨
Besides adamantium is unbreakable, but it dosent absorb shock like Vibranium ❌
of course it doesn't absorb shock like vibranium.. it isn't vibranium and that point has NOTHING to do with this discussion.. it's like you're at a loss for what to say, so you just start saying anything you can think of to dtract from a point...
I mean take this incident for example.. you said:
"It's PIS because thing was knocked down"
thing was off balance
"oh well it's PIS because thing was hurt"
but thing wasn't hurt
"oh...well it's PIS because thing had rock chips coming off him"
I mean seriously that's what your argument against this feat as come down to.. it's pathetic.. it really is...
Originally posted by jinzin
it has EVERYTHING to do with admantium's durability.. admantium has NO GIVE to it.. NO GIVE WHATSOEVER.. the truck that hit ben would fold and crack like an accordion.. admantium won't... it's like getting a champion weight lifter to hit a standing peice of wood with a cardboard bat.. the force generated doesn't mean a damned thing cause the cardboard isn't durable enough to do anything to the stick... but you give a little kid a metal rebarb pipe and have him take a swing the stick explodes into debris... the force isn't important here the durability is.. and the same basic principle applies to this as well.. why you can't see that is beyond me...what does that have to do with ANYTHING? 🤨
of course it doesn't absorb shock like vibranium.. it isn't vibranium and that point has NOTHING to do with this discussion.. it's like you're at a loss for what to say, so you just start saying anything you can think of to dtract from a point...
I mean take this incident for example.. you said:
"It's PIS because thing was knocked down"
thing was off balance
"oh well it's PIS because thing was hurt"
but thing wasn't hurt
"oh...well it's PIS because thing had rock chips coming off him"
I mean seriously that's what your argument against this feat as come down to.. it's pathetic.. it really is...
No, actually its PIS, for many reasons.
First off, Wolverine would have to jump back and forth and kick Ben in the face in the time that Ben was still lunging forward. Impossible 😐
Second, Ben was leaning forward, meaning that even if Wolverine were to knock him over it would have to be by pushing him from the back. Oh course that wasn't done either.
Third, Even when off Balance Wolverine dosen't have the force nessecary to push Ben over. ❌
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hmm... I dunno if I'd agree with this... it's not like it was forged by Hephaestus or something...
lol fair enough.. but I think we can agree to at least this:
durability of admantium>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>durability of metals used to create automobiles..
Originally posted by jinzin
it has EVERYTHING to do with admantium's durability.. admantium has NO GIVE to it.. NO GIVE WHATSOEVER.. the truck that hit ben would fold and crack like an accordion.. admantium won't... it's like getting a champion weight lifter to hit a standing peice of wood with a cardboard bat.. the force generated doesn't mean a damned thing cause the cardboard isn't durable enough to do anything to the stick... but you give a little kid a metal rebarb pipe and have him take a swing the stick explodes into debris... the force isn't important here the durability is.. and the same basic principle applies to this as well.. why you can't see that is beyond me...what does that have to do with ANYTHING? 🤨
of course it doesn't absorb shock like vibranium.. it isn't vibranium and that point has NOTHING to do with this discussion.. it's like you're at a loss for what to say, so you just start saying anything you can think of to dtract from a point...
Oh and your basicly saying that Wolverine can withstand getting hit by a truck without being hurt right 😐
Yeah, go read Ultimate X-Men vol.3 and come talk to me 😉
Originally posted by jinzinOk I'll buy that... If they clashed with Wonder Woman's sword that can slice the electrons off an atom though would they break I wonder.
lol fair enough.. but I think we can agree to at least this:durability of admantium>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>durability of metals used to create automobiles..
Originally posted by Grimm22
No, actually its PIS, for many reasons.First off, Wolverine would have to jump back and forth and kick Ben in the face in the time that Ben was still lunging forward. Impossible 😐
Originally posted by Grimm22no it doesn't.. ben was leaning forward but his shoulders and hips were WAYYY off kilter.. being as off balance as ben was it wouldn't take much to knock him over for instance: (wait for it)
Second, Ben was leaning forward, meaning that even if Wolverine were to knock him over it would have to be by pushing him from the back. Oh course that wasn't done either.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Third, Even when off Balance Wolverine dosen't have the force nessecary to push Ben over. ❌
maybe if things bracing for an attack.. but in the position ben was in.. GRAVITY is the only force wolvie needs... points 2 and 3 easily dissmissed...
Originally posted by Grimm22
Oh and your basicly saying that Wolverine can withstand getting hit by a truck without being hurt right 😐Yeah, go read Ultimate X-Men vol.3 and come talk to me 😉
that's not what I said at all.. 🤨
wolverine's admantium skeleton has nothing to do with his ability to deal with pain.. 🤨 if a truck hit him he'd be in pain but his skeleton would remain undamaged because of those aspects previously dicussed.. you're grasping again.. seriously.. you can't debate ON TOPIC worth a crap so you grasp at any straw you can to fill in the holes in your debate to keep it from sinking... too bad it ain't workin.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Ok I'll buy that... If they clashed with Wonder Woman's sword that can slice the electrons off an atom though would they break I wonder.
dunno.. while I agree that both majic and cosmic SHOULD be >>>>> admantium.. they haven't proven to be yet..
mordu fried wolverine to nothing with the hottest hellfire he could muster and the skeleton remained in one piece un-harmed.
cosmic wise I don't immediately recall what wolverine has withstood or not...
In the weapon-x novel it's explained that the admantium combined with nanotech that dr. cornelious provided would make the most durable substance in the known universe.. (keep in mind this is WELL after shield has been established to document such material and department h was working with them for the weapon x project.)
Originally posted by jinzin
no he wouldn't.. I already explained this.. he was starting in front of thing and he jumped.. STILL in front of thing but at a 45 degree angle.. after thing lowered his arm from the punch his torso would have been left wide open for the kick which it was.. point 1 dissmissed...no it doesn't.. ben was leaning forward but his shoulders and hips were WAYYY off kilter.. being as off balance as ben was it wouldn't take much to knock him over for instance: (wait for it)
maybe if things bracing for an attack.. but in the position ben was in.. GRAVITY is the only force wolvie needs... points 2 and 3 easily dissmissed...
Look at the picture again.
Ben was leaning forward. Then Wolverine kicks him and he is going backwards and ends up on his back. That would mean that Wolverine would have had to jump back from being behind Ben while he was still off balance (impossible), and kick him forward with the nessescary force (impossible).
Nothing you have said so far has made any sense ❌
Originally posted by Grimm22
Look at the picture again.
why would I need to look at the pic again..? I've seen it and even drew on it in pretty colors to help you understand the material.. I'm obviously not the one who needs to be educated on what took place.. 🙄
Originally posted by Grimm22On ONE set of tippy toes.. funny how you keep forgetting that..
Ben was leaning forward.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Then Wolverine kicks him and he is going backwards and ends up on his back. That would mean that Wolverine would have had to jump back from being behind Ben while he was still off balance (impossible), and kick him forward with the nessescary force (impossible).
NO. IT. WOULDN'T... god I swear.. you MUST have a comprehension deficiency.. there's no other explination for your continued ignorance unless you're just plain ignoring me altogether...
❌
look wolverine starts out in front of ben and ben takes a swing.. wolverine jumps TO THE SIDE.. not behind ben.. TO THE SIDE.. look at the pic again.. wolverine clearly jumps..... TO.... THE... SIDE. He's at ben's 45 all that ben would have had to do to make that kick happen is drop his arm down past his face.. which he did....
and again.. you're saying that logan doesn't have the force to do what GRAVITY ALONE is capible of.... wolverine can't kick down a SKYSCRAPER but if the complex is off balance for some reason a gust of wind is all it's going to take to be put it to the ground.. wolverine is not a gust of wind.. he's a mutant with a higher strength level than ultimate captain america.. and an admantium skeleton...
look normal martial artists.. (guys who dont' even have ONE THIRD of the necessary stats to be a peak human) can generate through a kick 2 THOUSAND pounds of pressure PER SQUARE INCH into an attack.. that alone is more force than is generated during car wrecks... now you factor in that logan is anywhere from 5 to 8 times stronger than these guys anyways.. and the fact that you think he doesn't have the power to do what gravity can take care of on it's own it just ridiculous!
Originally posted by Grimm22
Nothing you have said so far has made any sense ❌
because nothing I've said so far has catered to your hatred of wolverine or your fanboy love of thing.. that's not surprising actually.. 🙄
Originally posted by jinzin*pulls jinzin off of him* take it easy, hes cool man, hes cool!
why would I need to look at the pic again..? I've seen it and even drew on it in pretty colors to help you understand the material.. I'm obviously not the one who needs to be educated on what took place.. 🙄On ONE set of tippy toes.. funny how you keep forgetting that..
NO. IT. WOULDN'T... god I swear.. you MUST have a comprehension deficiency.. there's no other explination for your continued ignorance unless you're just plain ignoring me altogether...
❌look wolverine starts out in front of ben and ben takes a swing.. wolverine jumps TO THE SIDE.. not behind ben.. TO THE SIDE.. look at the pic again.. wolverine clearly jumps..... TO.... THE... SIDE. He's at ben's 45 all that ben would have had to do to make that kick happen is drop his arm down past his face.. which he did....
and again.. you're saying that logan doesn't have the force to do what GRAVITY ALONE is capible of.... wolverine can't kick down a SKYSCRAPER but if the complex is off balance for some reason a gust of wind is all it's going to take to be put it to the ground.. wolverine is not a gust of wind.. he's a mutant with a higher strength level than ultimate captain america.. and an admantium skeleton...
look normal martial artists.. (guys who dont' even have ONE THIRD of the necessary stats to be a peak human) can generate through a kick 2 THOUSAND pounds of pressure PER SQUARE INCH into an attack.. that alone is more force than is generated during car wrecks... now you factor in that logan is anywhere from 5 to 8 times stronger than these guys anyways.. and the fact that you think he doesn't have the power to do what gravity can take care of on it's own it just ridiculous!because nothing I've said so far has catered to your hatred of wolverine or your fanboy love of thing.. that's not surprising actually.. 🙄
Originally posted by jinzin
it has EVERYTHING to do with admantium's durability.. admantium has NO GIVE to it.. NO GIVE WHATSOEVER..
The adamantium may not, but Wolverine sure has plenty of give in the form of a severe lack of strength. That, and well, joints, ligaments, and such.
Those things = give.