The Flash vs. Thor

Started by Soujaboy7 pages

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I'm not exactly a Flash fan. But according to Wikipedia Barry Allen and Wally West are supposed to be faster. I don't know how that speedforce thing works.

Btw, running and moving at the speed of light is lot more practical in combat than having to send your hammer, because that would require at least some thought. And a thought is taking too much time, because Flash can move himself at those speeds.

Thor can swing his hammer at multiples of the speed of light, if that counts as combat skill?

If not though, Thor can paralyze flash and proceed in beating on him.

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Or Thor could shrink Flash

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Originally posted by Dinalfos
So how does that work? Does it grant him unlimited durability/stamina? Or does it just make him immune?

It allows him to run as fast as light without burning up from the air friction as well punching people at lightspeed without completely shattering his hand. The SF is a HUGE plot device that allows Flash do all sorts of things, even create constructs ala Green Lantern.

Oh, for heaven's sake. Too many people asking questions about Flash's powers...

NOTE: Some parts are outdated. For example, the first description says if Flash goes at lightspeed he enters the Speed Force. This simply isn't true anymore...

A description of his powers: (Background makes it hard to read)

> Flash Respect Thread Prelude:
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> Powers:
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> Superspeed
> Wally West is the Fastest Man Alive, and so far as is known, the Fastest Man Ever. He is capable of moving at just under the speed of light, and in truth his top speed, if he has one, is hard to guage since once he goes beyond lightspeed, he enters the Speed Force. As far as is known Wally is the only speedster to enter the Speed Force entirely and re-emerge, which helps account for his incredible gifts. His connection he has with the Speed Force is stronger than any known person has ever attained. It's far more than enough to allow Wally West to run up sheer or even upside-down surfaces to defy gravity, or to allow him to run over liquids as if they were as firm as concrete. He can catch bullets out of the air as if they were stationary, and could quite probably dodge lasers.
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> Molecular control
> The gifts of the Speed Force include the ability to control every molecule of Wally's body to where they can be vibrated and made to phase through solid matter. These days, doing so can charge whatever he phases through with kinetic energy and cause that matter to explode violently. This is both a good and bad thing, in that he can use the ability to charge matter to explode as a weapon, but in doing so he harms whatever he phases through. Since the Flash's recent increase in speed, his control has been enhanced to where he may choose either to kinetically charge what he vibrates through, or not do so and pass through solid matter harmlessly. Another facet of his molecular control is that Wally can vibrate himself to where his body becomes invisible and light just passes through it. Yet another ability related to his vibrational molecular control is that Wally can attune his ears and eyes to hear and see the vibrations of radio waves or other forms of light, thereby tuning into any frequencies he cares to listen to or see just as if they were normal sound and light. Through the control of his vibrations, he is even able to heat up substances that he touches or impart heat energy into an object on contact.
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> Turbocharged brain
> When Wally moves into superspeed his perceptions change radically and the world appears to move by at a snail's pace. If he's going fast enough, the world even seems to have frozen. This altering of perception is vital in order for Wally to function at the extreme speeds that he can reach, and allows him to manage his movements and environment with awareness and accuracy. It's also a power that he can activate without physically moving any faster, throwing his thought processes into overdrive to where his perceptions and thoughts fire off faster than the processes of a supercomputer. He can, if he chooses, read a book (a big one like Lord of the Rings) in less than a second with full comprehension and the only speed motion required being the turning of the pages.
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> Speed force aura
> When moving at superspeed, Wally West is able to surround himself with an aura of Speed Force Energy. It extends out from his body enough to cover objects or even persons carried by him, and allows him to treat them as extensions of his person for purposes of speed powers. The aura also protects Wally from the effects of hitting stationary objects (so instead of turning to hamburger he'd just hit as if he were running normally and ran into it) and keeps his passing from causing sonic booms and massive collateral damage everywhere he goes at superspeed. The aura can be controlled to where such sonic booms and effects on the environment are allowed, however.
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> Kinetic energy control
> Wally West is able to both steal and give energy of motion from and to an object. He can take the velocity out of a moving object and cause it to stand still as well as charge an object with motion and propel it into possibly ridiculous amounts of speed. This is only possible in either case with objects that happen to be or are caught in Wally's wake as he passes or moves over them. In a sense it's really contact and proximity to his Speed Force Aura that enables him to add to or take away from the velocity of other objects, and he can either drag objects behind him at his speed or move past an already-moving object and take its speed away to leave it standing motionless behind.
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> Speed tricks
> Among the various tricks that Wally can perform with his powers are:
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> The Snap - Where through manipulation of the Speed Force Aura and a superspeed motion (often a snap of the fingers or clap of the hands) Wally causes a deafening and highly damaging sonic boom that can knock down walls and stun opponents.
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> Cyclones - Where through moving his limbs in various fashions the Flash may cause extreme winds that can blow about objects with force similar to a tornado.

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> Dismantling - Where through a simple series of appropriate motion Wally just dissects things like cars, weapons, furniture, down to the limit of his understanding of how to take apart a given device or object. That's assuming he wants it to be able to work when reassembled...
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> Bombs - Where through taking advantage of the explosive kinetic charge that Wally endows an object by phasing through it, he intentionally charges things to explode in order to use them as weapons. They can be as simple as walls or trees, or as clever as throwing a rock without opening his fist and letting that rock phase through his fingers, charged to explode as it hurtles toward its intended target.
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> Vibro Hands - Where Wally can saw through solid objects with his hands (as an example) by vibrating his body and basically blasting his way through said object on contact.
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> Hot Touch - Where through vibrational control, Wally can heat up an object as much or as little as he likes just by touching it and concentrating on the energy he imparts to it.
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> Speed force suit
> Through his control of Speed Force Energy, Wally is able to form a suit around his body in the approximate shape and color of his original Flash suit he inherited from Barry, only made of pure Speed Energy. This suit is more convenient than the old ring-pop-out suit, and it is capable of acting like armor to absorb great amounts of kinetic energy.
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> Healing
> Wally is able to use the Speed Force in order to speed up the healing of injuries to himself. In essence, he is able to heal minor cuts, abrasions, and bruises in a matter of minutes. More major or deep wounds might take hours. The greatest limit to this ability are broken bones, as they take much longer to heal...perhaps days or weeks in spite of his powers of speed and healing.
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> Sustenance
> Through his link with the Speed Force, Wally is able to draw sustenance from that energy field that allows his body to channel Speed Force Energy without having to stuff his body with carbs and food to keep going. It also provides him with the needed energy to keep running and running even if it's all the way around the globe.
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> Time travel
> Wally West can travel through time in three ways:
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> Speed Force - By reaching the Speed Force and bouncing off of the barrier at the edge of it, Wally will often skip forward or back in time unpredictably. Alternately he can cross that barrier and enter the Speed Force entirely, then exit to any possible point in history. Unfortunately by this method the Speed Force has a way of controlling when he comes out and ends up. About his best bet in doing this is to run right along the Speed Force wall. Doing so, Wally can read the different eras that he passes up and just stop at the one he wants. So far, Wally is the only speedster that can reliably perform this mode of time travel.
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> Temporal Vibrations - By attuning his physical vibrations to those of another timeframe, Wally can basically fade into another time/dimension. The only trouble doing this is that he doesn't necessarily know the proper vibration for a given time in a given dimension, and just experimenting with different vibrations to see where you end up is about as smart as stabbing yourself in the brain with a needle to see what cool things you can make your leg do.
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> Cosmic Treadmill - By using this invention of Barry Allen's, Wally has only to get on the treadmill, set it to the time and place he wants to go, and run to power it. It's been the cause of a few excellent adventures, as well as some bogus journeys.
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> Speed force attunement
> Because of his link with the Speed Force, Wally West is able to commune with it and sense and track any speedster, no matter when or where they are. It's a subtle but very useful aspect of his power.
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> Quick formula
> Wally knows the speed formula which gave Johnny and Jesse Quick their speed. He doesn't use it often, and the first time was to give him an extra boost on top of his natural superspeed and to help him reach the Speed Force. Since then, his natural speed has been adequate to get there alone, so he's never had to use it. He still knows the formula, however, and by reciting the equation "3x2(9yz)4a" and conceptualizing the fourth dimensional construct that goes with it, Wally can stack the added superspeed of the Quick's on top of his own. A side effect of when he does this is that for a brief moment, time is frozen for everyone except Wally during which the added link to the Speed Force seems to interfere with his natural one, or perhaps elbows it aside for a bit in order to provide its form of superspeed. The effect is unnoticeable to anyone in the normal timestream, however, and as soon as the "time-hiccup" or whatever one calls it passes, Wally has extra superspeed. This added link to the Speed Force neither supercedes nor interferes with his natural link besides that momentary timefreeze, and it allows him all of the normal powers that he normally has with his own superspeed.

I'm giving this to Wally.....and its not because I hate Thor with a passion and love the Flash. 😖hifty:

This fight really isn't up for debate in the slightest.

Flash wins this. Running backward. While asleep. And in a coma. With two broken legs.

That's not even a biased answer. But there's nothing Thor can do to Flash faster than what Flash can do to Thor. Yes, Mjlonir is extremely versatile. But Flash himself is much more versatile. And, well, faster. By lightyears.

This thread is way too slanted in Flash's favor. Thor is a powerhouse, but yet he can't destory the planet or even fly above 500 ft? Are you kidding me?

If it was a real fight, I'd give it to the Thor. He's got too much power in him. However, with the restrictions set up in this extremely biased fight, it goes to Flash.

......if he could destroy the planet or go 500 ft past the earth, Id still see Flash winning. Kinetic speed drain, IMP. Im not saying Thor ISNT powerful. Hes just not fast.

I suppose it all depends on how many tricks Thor can perform simultaneously. Can he perform, say, a godblast or something while using Mjolnir to fly/move at light speed? If not, then Thor is toast.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I suppose it all depends on how many tricks Thor can perform simultaneously. Can he perform, say, a godblast or something while using Mjolnir to fly/move at light speed? If not, then Thor is toast.

Perhaps he can do that. But it really doesn't matter. Since he can't actually perform all of these techniques in the picosecond it would take Flash to destroy Thor.

That's all we're trying to say here. We're not taking anything away from Thor. Just showing that there's no way he can execute any attack before he's put down.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Perhaps he can do that. But it really doesn't matter. Since he can't actually perform all of these techniques in the picosecond it would take Flash to destroy Thor.

That's all we're trying to say here. We're not taking anything away from Thor. Just showing that there's no way he can execute any attack before he's put down.

Yup, that's what I was thinking.

Flash for the win.

Based on all that Draco69 posted for Flash abilities, Flash wins.

This fight is lopsided due to the rules, thus flash wins.

However if Thor survived the first hit than he has a chance to win.

The reason i believe that Thor has a chance is because Thor has knocked around speedsters before, Silver Surfer is the first that comes to mind.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
This fight is lopsided due to the rules, thus flash wins.

However if Thor survived the first hit than he has a chance to win.

The reason i believe that Thor has a chance is because Thor has knocked around speedsters before, Silver Surfer is the first that comes to mind.

He did a great job against Mongoose. 😐

Originally posted by batdude123
He did a great job against Mongoose. 😐

No he didn't, but he beat an angry Silver Surfer down.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
No he didn't, but he beat an angry Silver Surfer down.

Warrior madness did. However, Flash would beat him. 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
Warrior madness did. However, Flash would beat him. 🙂

Warrior Madness to my knowledge didn't make Thor any more powerful, he was just in warrior madness state of mind.

What makes you think that Flash could beat him? Im sure Flash isn't stronger or more versatile than Silver Surfer and Beta Ray bill combined.

What is Flash's strongest attack.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Warrior Madness to my knowledge didn't make Thor any more powerful, he was just in warrior madness state of mind.

What makes you think that Flash could beat him? Im sure Flash isn't stronger or more versatile than Silver Surfer and Beta Ray bill combined.

What is Flash's strongest attack.

Too many to count.

Speed Steal
Infinite Mass Punch
Speedblitz

Seriously there is a million things the Flash can do. Read Draco's posts on Flash's powers. 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
Too many to count.

Speed Steal
Infinite Mass Punch
Speedblitz

Seriously there is a million things the Flash can do. Read Draco's posts on Flash's powers. 🙂

Can he steal the speed of a god a half elder at that?

I don't think speedblitz would work, because Flash will still have the power of a normal human.

I think Thor could take the infinite mass punch.