Originally posted by overlord
A lot of shite
Originally posted by Darth Vious
You sad individual. Not that you would know it, but I actually work from home online. While posting here, I am actually working, and getting £20 an hour for doing so. I'm here because it amuses me, and the debates are intersting. Onto your point.
I suggest you look at those dictionary definitions again I am not posting my own opinions, but posting facts, so unless you want to re-write the dictionary, I suggest that you start accepting the fact that Christianity falls under the catagory of a cult. The fact it's been around for 2000 years is totally irrelevent, and the fact remains that it falls under the catagory of a cult for many reasons. By refusing to accept a dictionary definition, all you are doing is embarassing yourself.
Now, I'll ask one question that stayed in my mind again: is the islam a cult aswell? Being based on the teaching of muhammad?
And don't call someone who has a different opinion sad, that tells me a lot about your underdevelopt psyche.
Originally posted by overlord
By quoting me wrongly,
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bragging (or probably lying) about having a successful life,
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by being banned for being childish
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for going against the world with a dumbass internet dictionary
Originally posted by overlord
If you were really mature, you wouldn't suffer from the last word syndrom.
Originally posted by overlord
Now, I'll ask one question that stayed in my mind again: is the islam a cult aswell? Being based on the teaching of muhammad?
Ushgarak told us many times that if the movies don't make something clear enough, Lucas' word is indeed the highest source of canon because this makes sense and is plain logic.
I know it's not something some members here like because of their bias but you'll have to swallow it.
You also have no reason to constantly come inform me about the money you make by being annoying here. I take it as bragging.
Your dumbass dictionary doesn't mean anything. Perhaps you just don't believe in the term religion. Please give me your term of something being a true religion. I take it you count Hinduism as religion?
Please notify me on what exact qualities a religion must have because it's pretty retarded that everybody calls Christianity and the Islam a religion except you and that you would actually argue about it.
You seem to forget just for you own ease that a religion can be based on the teachings of a spiritual leader just like you all forgot the true canon policy around here aswell for your own ease.
Originally posted by overlord
Ushgarak told us many times that if the movies don't make something clear enough, Lucas' word is indeed the highest source of canon because this makes sense and is plain logic.
I know it's not something some members here like because of their bias but you'll have to swallow it.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences."
Originally posted by overlord
You also have no reason to constantly come inform me about the money you make by being annoying here. I take it as bragging.
Originally posted by overlord
Your dumbass dictionary doesn't mean anything.
Originally posted by overlord
Perhaps you just don't believe in the term religion. Please give me your term of something being a true religion. I take it you count Hinduism as religion?
Please notify me on what exact qualities a religion must have because it's pretty retarded that everybody calls Christianity and the Islam a religion except you and that you would actually argue about it.You seem to forget just for you own ease that a religion can be based on the teachings of a spiritual leader just like you all forgot the true canon policy around here aswell for your own ease.
Look, I don't care if you dislike religion. You make it come across as though there isn't a difference anymore. Those cults aren't religion.
Cults is something that rips you apart from your family and where the leader is above all. Cults usually use deceit in recruitment and I don't want you associating Christianity with them any longer, you understand?
Religion is much more open and honest to the public and questioning a leader is allowed. They don't try their best to get your money. And you know what Ushgarak said in the thread he closed due to spamming children.
The movies are the highest form of canon. If something isn't completely clear in the movies, Lucas' word is the one to decide it. This is plain logic you ignore and then you call me arrogant.
Go brag about your highly successful life wich is probably made up. I know people like you, you probably are just some snotty kid trying to be a wiseguy and trying to be impressive.
Well, keep away with the useless information and dumbass statements based on some internet dictionary.
I don't think you yourself even know what you are talking about. For example, do you recognise christianity and the islam as a religion, because it was as if you did not at first until the evidence showed that it wasn't a cult. Not that I really care, you are probably the most pointless person I have ever met around here..
Originally posted by overlord
Look, I don't care if you dislike religion. You make it come across as though there isn't a difference anymore. Those cults aren't religion.
Cults is something that rips you apart from your family and where the leader is above all. Cults usually use deceit in recruitment and I don't want you associating Christianity with them any longer, you understand?
Originally posted by overlord
The movies are the highest form of canon. If something isn't completely clear in the movies, Lucas' word is the one to decide it. This is plain logic you ignore and then you call me arrogant.
Originally posted by overlord
Go brag about your highly successful life wich is probably made up. I know people like you, you probably are just some snotty kid trying to be a wiseguy and trying to be impressive.
Originally posted by overlordI think I can safely say I know more about religions than you do. You can't even face the truth about Christianity.
I don't think you yourself even know what you are talking about.
Originally posted by overlord
For example, do you recognise christianity and the islam as a religion, because it was as if you did not at first until the evidence showed that it wasn't a cult.
Originally posted by overlord
are probably the most pointless person I have ever met around here..
And how are you going to stop me? How do you think Islamic terrorists are created? Religion is for the weak. Anyone who needs a book or code to tell them how to live and be a decent person is a fool.
I don't give a damn about your opinion, retard. "WAAWAA, Religion is for the weak!!", I don't care.
I suggest you re-read the policy. It says that the movies and only the movies are the highest canon. Fact. Yes, you are arrogant, because you think your opinion is worth more than a dictionary, yet still refuse to justify that with qualifications.
You don't get it, I feel sorry for you. If something isn't clear in the movies, then Lucas is able to clear it instead of crazy children's interpretation just like the writer of those old sith could state that Sidious was way above them.
And I am not the one going against the moderator, your dictionary is too vague in this case and you have a problem seeing the difference between religion and a cult, therefore I will teach you.
You really are f*cking clueless. The only snotty kid here, is you. I'll be 28 in just over 3 months, how old are you? Have you even finished high school yet? I run my own business, own my own property (which I have just been negotiating the sale of between my two posts) and am getting married in two years. Where do you live? In your parent's basement? Stop projecting your own failings onto me, because it just doesn't work.
Don't accuse me of your short comings, I don't live in a basement, idiot. You can brag and probably lie all you want, it's not impressive, sorry but you fail.
I think I can safely say I know more about religions than you do. You can't even face the truth about Christianity.
What proof about christianity? That it is a cult? So called proof by some random no name on the internet who bases all of this from some internet dictionary. He who goes against the world with his dumbass wiseguy behavior. You obviously are a very disturbed little kid.
I accept that they're classed as religions, but they could also be classed as cults, and untill you provide evidence to the contrary, that will be my opinion of them.
Ah, so you finally understand that what you dictate is not a fact? I will enlighten you on eastern, western and new age cults.
Western cults usually are sprung off of Jesus Christ and don't recognise God or think there are three gods as the mormons. Jehovahs and christian scientists think God is a pagan falsehood.
Eastern are mostly sprung off of Hinduism, Boeddism or Taoism. All these fools claim to present the only truth.
The new age group believes that you must find God in yourself.
The leader however of a cult is the one who makes and changes the rules, cults commit in decieving people to join them (religion only presents their ideas), cults commit mass suicide and pointless stuff, cults need you to do something for them to prove your commitment, cults indoctrinate in a very heavy way usually.
cults use ways to make you join wich at times include that they f*ck with your food or constantly bother you with making sure you don't get enough sleep and they freaking brainwash people at times!
Religion has nothing to do with this shit and at least believes in a God wich created everything.
Says the person who spends their time trolling for arguments rather than contributing opinion to debates. Hypocrite.
You are such a lying piece of shit, I hardly ever get into arguments as retarded as you. How the f*ck am I like you? Please stop accusing me of your own behavior because it won't save you from being banned.
Your childish spamming and trolling ass was suspended for a good reason. If I judge your reasoning and behavior, I think you are probably sixteen years old. This is reasonable guess, just admit it because you act so freaking odd.
Originally posted by overlord
I don't give a damn about your opinion, retard. "WAAWAA, Religion is for the weak!!", I don't care.
Originally posted by overlord
You don't get it, I feel sorry for you. If something isn't clear in the movies, then Lucas is able to clear it instead of crazy children's interpretation just like the writer of those old sith could state that Sidious was way above them.
And I am not the one going against the moderator, your dictionary is too vague in this case and you have a problem seeing the difference between religion and a cult, therefore I will teach you.
Originally posted by Ushgarak"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences."
Originally posted by overlord
[b]And I am not the one going against the moderator,
Originally posted by overlord
your dictionary is too vague in this case and you have a problem seeing the difference between religion and a cult, therefore I will teach you.
Originally posted by overlord
Don't accuse me of your short comings, I don't live in a basement, idiot. You can brag and probably lie all you want, it's not impressive, sorry but you fail.
Originally posted by overlord
What proof about christianity? That it is a cult? So called proof by some random no name on the internet who bases all of this from some internet dictionary. He who goes against the world with his dumbass wiseguy behavior. You obviously are a very disturbed little kid.
Originally posted by overlord
Ah, so you finally understand that what you dictate is not a fact?
Originally posted by overlord
I will enlighten you on eastern, western and new age cults.
Western cults usually are sprung off of Jesus Christ and don't recognise God or think there are three gods as the mormons. Jehovahs and christian scientists think God is a pagan falsehood.
Eastern are mostly sprung off of Hinduism, Boeddism or Taoism. All these fools claim to present the only truth.
The new age group believes that you must find God in yourself.
Originally posted by overlord
The leader however of a cult is the one who makes and changes the rules, cults commit in decieving people to join them (religion only presents their ideas), cults commit mass suicide and pointless stuff, cults need you to do something for them to prove your commitment, cults indoctrinate in a very heavy way usually.
cults use ways to make you join wich at times include that they f*ck with your food or constantly bother you with making sure you don't get enough sleep and they freaking brainwash people at times!Religion has nothing to do with this shit and at least believes in a God wich created everything.
Originally posted by overlord
You are such a lying piece of shit, I hardly ever get into arguments as retarded as you. How the f*ck am I like you? Please stop accusing me of your own behavior because it won't save you from being banned.
Your childish spamming and trolling ass was suspended for a good reason. If I judge your reasoning and behavior, I think you are probably sixteen years old. This is reasonable guess, just admit it because you act so freaking odd.
Originally posted by Blaxican Hydra
LMFAO. You're back and the first thing you do is start this up again?
Originally posted by Blaxican Hydra
What are you planning to achieve in this debate?
Originally posted by Darth Vious
I'm sorry, was I supposed to ignore the comments that Overlord made while I was suspended?To show that Christianity (and most other major religions) fill almost all definitions given of a cult, and have proved that point by posting dictionary defenitions of a cult, all but one of which, have applied to Christianity at some point in the past 2000 years, and the majority of which still apply today.
Well, you've shown your point. Why does it matter fi some people dont believe it? You've still gotten your point across. people have read it, it's been acknowledged. What else do you want? Do you want me to renounce my christian faith or somethiing?
Nah, he has no idea what a cult is, he is just an ignorent troll. The complete terms of a cult are: 1, the tendency to perfectionism, the tendency to isolation, the tendency of anticipating the future, the tendency to complete a theory that's only partly true, the tendency of complete frustration at people who think differently.
See, at least I can elaborate about cultism instead of hopelessly clinging to initial arguments in the hope of spamming until people become sick of me like how little children act to get their way.
also, a much better discription is:
The way of talking people in to it with al kinds of tricks and stuff.
The way of forming a group like all living in one house or pressurising on each other constantly.
The way a leader can pressurise people of a lower hierarchy such as punishing them or being above the law themselves.
Complete control by a so self proclaimed messiah.
Complete isolation of the world, of normal human customs and people who think different.
Selection of so called chosen people of whom are supposed to posses more information or powers than other members.
Keeping their way of living and their believes to themselves and isolation from the media and alternative information.
The extreme way how members are supposed to recruite new members.
Well, it's actually pretty easy to seperate a cult from a religion but the weak of mind really need some vague definition of an internet dictionary to include religion to being a cult aswell.
Personally, I think Vious just changed what he was originally trying to prove and is now only continuing this because he is one of those stubborn children.
And I don't give a damn about your opinion either, numbnuts. Religions can be classed as cults. I've given you dictionary definitions, you reject them. I ask you twice for proof that you are qualified to criticize a dictionary yet still you provide no qualifications. You accuse me of only posting my own opinions, but you do exactly the same thing! Answer my point about Islamic fundementalism and terrorism.
This is just like what you did when you got yourself banned, you are so incredibly retarded that you keep spamming your initial arguments wich can never be proved as insufficient. Maybe you have not been raised right.
You don't seem to allow any other way of thinking.
I don't get it? you're the one who is denying the actual Forum Policy! I might not agree with it, but at least I'm not denying it. Moron.
Uhmm.. No. You see, when the movies don't make something clear enough like the death of Boba Fett, then Lucas can state that Boba Fett indeed died.
This is plain and simple logic wich your childish ass refuses to comprehend.
And that means what? Anyone who has to resort to banning someone for challenging their opinion or policy because they can't defend it themselves has no business being a moderator.
You are confused, you think your banning was because you were the one who was right and needed to be silenced. This is where your arrogance comes in to play. You actually refused to listen to other people's arguments to why your points were insufficient. You kept spamming your old argument constantly like a mentally retarded spammer.
Ushgarak had to stop you from constantly saying the same crap.
Vague? What is 'vague' about the definitions listed? They are consice and specific. Once more, what qualifies you to say your opinion is worth more than a dictionary?
Hold your horses, little teenager. I have already stated the deeper involved descriptions of a cult. Your dictionary obviously wasn't good enough in this case to state the difference between religion and cultism.
What short comings? I've told you about myself, how about you actually answer my question? How old are you? Do you own your own property, or do you live with your parents? I'm not lying at all, I have no reason to. You on the other hand, are making assumptions about me based on your own insecurities. Prove me wrong.
Your reason to lie is your trying to impress me and acting like you probably are more knowledgeable than me. You have failedm get over it.
Once more, you are describing yourself. What makes you more qualified than a dictionary? What are your educational qualifications? You're the one who declares to be suicidal, why is that? Don't you get enough allowance?
Haha, pretty funny. Every idiot has to reach for my lollygagging to insult me or prove me that they are supposed to be more intelligent. "blablabla, you are describing yourself"
How am I describing myself to you? Are you angry that I'm not a sucker for a dumbass description of a cult that's way too general? Go outside to play, little child.
You're not teaching me anything. You're just making yourself appear even more foolish. Groups that base their beliefs on the teachings of a particular person are cults. Re-read the definitions of cult posted. Untill you prove that you are more qualified than whoever writes dictionaries, your opinion will continue to mean nothing. Also, I do suggest you learn how to spell the major religions correctly. There is no such thing as Boeddism.
Oh my, well you know what I mean.. You don't hear me whining my childish ass off because you constantly say 'untill' wich also is a spelling error. Grow up, fool.
Once more. ISLAMIC FUNDEMENTALISM!!!! I presume you've heard of it?
Wow, you've totally ignored the differences between a cult and a religion. You must be an idiot. Go waste a moderators time, child.
Oh but I'm not lying. Your trolling behaviour has been documented on other areas of the forum, so you can't deny it. Again, you are projecting your own failings onto me. How old are you? Do you own your own property? Do you have a full-time job? I've given you the facts about me, and by denying them, and trying to say I'm a child, you are just making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already are.
Haha, as if an intelligent man who has actually achieved something in life feels the need to act like a retard spammer and troller like yourself. You immediately returned after being banned only to continue your childish behavior.
You only wish I was as pathetic as you. I'm sorry I'm not dumb enough to get banned. But maybe you'll get your wish someday when you keep trolling me for insults.
Your supposed successfulness in life is not convincing and also completely irrelevant. Go develop a brain, go back to school.