Re: What would be the worse thing to happen if the US lost the war on terrorism?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What would be the worse thing to happen if the US lost the war on terrorism?
I think the U.S. will NEVER win the war on terror for the following reasons:
#1. There are more of Them than Us, and they are growing in numbers daily.
#2. The whole conflict will end up eventually in a large conflict against Jerusalem and Isreal as the bible predicts. It will then spead outward on a global scale.
#3. The U.S. does not have enough strong Allies in this fight and financially cannot be everywhere at the same time.
#4. Since Politicians look often at Pole numbers. We will always be lagging support by the American People which therefore will hinder our efforts.
Re: Re: What would be the worse thing to happen if the US lost the war on terrorism?
Originally posted by Justbyfaith
#2. The whole conflict will end up eventually in a large conflict against Jerusalem and Isreal as the bible predicts. It will then spead outward on a global scale.
the bible, huh? lets see the passage you refer to.
It will constantly be a battle against Terrorism. Never will it end, for there will always be a group or a country that hates the U.S.
All we can honestly do is defend against attacks, and try to eliminate the threats as they found.
I just read yesterday that the FBI arrested 7 people with plans on attacking the Sears Tower in Chicago. They stated that these individuals were not connected to Al-Quida ( sp? ).
Bush pushed this country into a war, just like his Father did, and no matter how many protestors there are, the conflict will rage on until such time he leaves office.
It is very important for us to continue this battle, for once we are to let our guard down, the U.S. will become a easy target to hit. We will become like other countries that have to deal with daily bombings and constant terrorism.
It is a fact that we are the strongest nation there is, and of course you will have those that want to hit us where it hurts the most. What happened on 9/11 will happen again, maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but it will happen.
12/7 will live in Infamy, and 9/11 will never be forgotten.
Originally posted by A.D. Skinner
It will constantly be a battle against Terrorism. Never will it end, for there will always be a group or a country that hates the U.S.All we can honestly do is defend against attacks, and try to eliminate the threats as they found.
I just read yesterday that the FBI arrested 7 people with plans on attacking the Sears Tower in Chicago. They stated that these individuals were not connected to Al-Quida ( sp? ).
Bush pushed this country into a war, just like his Father did, and no matter how many protestors there are, the conflict will rage on until such time he leaves office.
It is very important for us to continue this battle, for once we are to let our guard down, the U.S. will become a easy target to hit. We will become like other countries that have to deal with daily bombings and constant terrorism.
It is a fact that we are the strongest nation there is, and of course you will have those that want to hit us where it hurts the most. What happened on 9/11 will happen again, maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but it will happen.12/7 will live in Infamy, and 9/11 will never be forgotten.
I always knew there was a good reason for me to not like Bush.
Originally posted by Gay Guy
I always knew there was a good reason for me to not like Bush.
OMG THATS SO FUNNY WHOB!!!!
...because you meant 'bush' as in a woman's vagina! thats amazing!
who would have thought to make a play on that? you know...bush/vagina...
and then the fact that you're posing as a homosexual? gold...pure gold.
lolz @ bush loz @ vagina. did you think of that by yourself? and how come
you did not add that you happen to love the vice president? that would have
just polished it off. you know, dick cheney? dick as in penis? that would have
just sent me into a coma from laughing too hard.
[/sarcasm]
Originally posted by PVS
OMG THATS SO FUNNY WHOB!!!!
...because you meant 'bush' as in a woman's vagina! thats amazing!
who would have thought to make a play on that? you know...bush/vagina...
and then the fact that you're posing as a homosexual? gold...pure gold.
lolz @ bush loz @ vagina. did you think of that by yourself? and how come
you did not add that you happen to love the vice president? that would have
just polished it off. you know, dick cheney? dick as in penis? that would have
just sent me into a coma from laughing too hard.
[/sarcasm]
I'm tired of you and your hatefilled homophobia. Consider yourself reported.
Originally posted by PVS😆 😆 😆
OMG THATS SO FUNNY WHOB!!!!
...because you meant 'bush' as in a woman's vagina! thats amazing!
who would have thought to make a play on that? you know...bush/vagina...
and then the fact that you're posing as a homosexual? gold...pure gold.
lolz @ bush loz @ vagina. did you think of that by yourself? and how come
you did not add that you happen to love the vice president? that would have
just polished it off. you know, dick cheney? dick as in penis? that would have
just sent me into a coma from laughing too hard.[/sarcasm]
I think for all it's worth, that other countries have gotten hit................LOTS.............an we aren't used to it being that way.........cause we are a New Country...........not much history....and far away..........and we really don't want to succumb to black mail, ,........and I don't think we will....................I believe,in my mind, that we would fight dying..............We always have...........
Originally posted by Da preacher
There is no war on terrorism.There's just the senseless invasion of 2 countrys which is ****ing up worldpeace and destroying the fragile peace in the Middle-East and killing hundreds of Irakis.
Now isn't that better? Just saying what you feel instead of being a ****.
Originally posted by Mindship
Well, since no one could grow big enough to fight us, the enemy rebounded, so to speak: they got smaller and sneakier, evolving into a form our traditonal way of fighting couldn't well deal with. They will kill and destroy as much as possible to meet their objective. It is not a limited exchange...this is war.
“Us?” Who is “us”? Are YOU fighting anyone. The enemy? Who is this enemy? Your sentences are vague and fussy. “They”?? Who are THEY??
Originally posted by Mindship
Someone once said that on 9/11, 3 things began: the 21st century, Bush's presidency and WWIII.
From what I understand, the impetus for Arab/Islamic discontent supposedly goes back centuries. A historian could answer this better than I. In any event, this is not a traditional war; it does not require a formal declaration. That's how civilized people fight wars. Islamic fascists are not civilized.
Why did 9/11 happen? Why are so many Arab nations angry at the US government and the West in general? Discontent? Yes… Maybe you should try to understand WHAT caused this discontent. Or do you believe in “EVIL ARABS”?
Originally posted by Mindship
Because we are bigger, richer and stronger, plus we have to win. Would you wanna live under their rules? Do you consider their way of life a step forward? It's like the rabbit being chased by the fox: the fox runs for a meal; the rabbit runs for its life.
“We”? Who are “we”? You have NO say, NO power and make NO decisions. The US status as a superpower will be challenged within the next decades by China. And no one will win because “they have to.” That sounds very much like propaganda in my ears. WHEN will “we” have won? What will it take to declare victory? And over WHO? THEIR rule? Who are you talking about?
What I want or not is irrelevant here. I am ASKING YOU. And that rabbit/fox story again sounds like more propaganda.
Originally posted by Mindship
It's not a concept. Concepts don't fly planes into buildings and they don't plan to gas subways. And sooner or later, a "concept" is gonna make a mushroom cloud rise over someone's city. Even if there is a 0.1% chance of that happening, it's a 0.1% chance we can't afford. Do you want it happening in your city?
Terror CAN’T fly airplanes. TERROR can’t plan to gas subways. And TERROR can’t make any mushroom clouds. Again, terror is a feeling a concept. IT can’t do SHIT. Som no, I am not afraid terror will bomb my city, no. I don’t listen to scare-rhetoric from state-leaders.
Originally posted by Mindship
Please understand: I do Not consider the US of A and its leadership angels. The First World is hardly perfect. But a democracy is still the best game in town.
The USA leads nothing. It’s a geographical location. Your administration runs things, and I agree, it’s not doing a very good job, but that is not YOUR fault. You CAN’T FORCE democracy on anyone… And it’s not really working either, is it? Again – that is not YOUR fault as you have no power.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Anyone with the meanest intelligence knows exactly what the thread starter means, and just because you dislike the semantics of the phrase 'war on terror', that is no defence to the charge of outright stupidity that can be levelled at those who say there is no war going on. There sure as hell is.Ok, for those of you who are desperate to be that anal, what if we define things thusly:
What would happen if the action of those aggressive groups opposed to the US force an American withdrawl from the Middle East?
Who is saying there is no war here???
Calm down, Ush, and don’t stoop to flinging words like “anal” and “stupidity” around, just because YOU apparently have your OWN definition of what is meant by “war on terror.”
Originally posted by The Omega
1. “Us?” Who is “us”? Are YOU fighting anyone. The enemy? Who is this enemy? Your sentences are vague and fussy. “They”?? Who are THEY??2. Why did 9/11 happen? Why are so many Arab nations angry at the US government and the West in general? Discontent? Yes… Maybe you should try to understand WHAT caused this discontent. Or do you believe in “EVIL ARABS”?
3. “We”? Who are “we”? You have NO say, NO power and make NO decisions. The US status as a superpower will be challenged within the next decades by China. And no one will win because “they have to.” That sounds very much like propaganda in my ears. WHEN will “we” have won? What will it take to declare victory? And over WHO? THEIR rule? Who are you talking about?
What I want or not is irrelevant here. I am ASKING YOU. And that rabbit/fox story again sounds like more propaganda.4. Terror CAN’T fly airplanes. TERROR can’t plan to gas subways. And TERROR can’t make any mushroom clouds. Again, terror is a feeling a concept. IT can’t do SHIT. Som no, I am not afraid terror will bomb my city, no. I don’t listen to scare-rhetoric from state-leaders.
5. The USA leads nothing. It’s a geographical location. Your administration runs things, and I agree, it’s not doing a very good job, but that is not YOUR fault. You CAN’T FORCE democracy on anyone… And it’s not really working either, is it? Again – that is not YOUR fault as you have no power.
1. You're going off on tangents asking for these definitions. Others in this thread know very clearly who/what I am referring to.
2. As I said, a) Arab discontent goes back centuries, very likely with religionistic reasons at the core; and b) again, as I said, America is no angel. Do YOU believe the Arab-Islamic world is the victim; that (eg) 9/11 was justified? Perhaps you do; that would explain your position.
3. Again, off on tangents, and an assumption about China, which, at best, would be true economically. And it is an unfortunate aspect of this kind of war, as Ush and others posted, that we may never know when we have won, or even if we can ever win in the traditional sense, at least not in our lifetimes.
4. I never said Terror could fly a plane... but THIS may well be the crux of your position: you, your city, your country have not been attacked (and I pray that will never happen). If you / your city / your country had been attacked, then you would understand that Terror CAN do shit. If it didn't, there wouldn't be terrorists.
5. The USA, as imperfect as it is, IS regarded (rightly or wrongly) as a world leader, economically, politically and militarily. And it is not--it never was--a question of me, personally. And no, you can't force democracy on anyone, it must be a choice. And why would someone choose it? Because as Churchill said, it is the worst system, except for all the other systems.
Again, I'm starting to realize that much of your position comes from not having been touched by the War on Terror, not having Your city attacked, not seeing the smoke from Your office window (I say the following with all due respect, but I'm also beginning to suspect there may be good ol' fashioned denial on your part--"no, I am not afraid terror will bomb my city, no. I don’t listen to scare-rhetoric from state-leaders." That's another example of the 'shit' Terror can do).
In any event, I do value your perspective because, if nothing else, it reminds me that we are not all on the same page.
u.s wiped out of the earth!
i tell you,you're living your latest peace time you never had in the u.s right now,if IRAN does pass to actions,the half of the united states will be blow away
from a nuclear warfare you'll never known from,
united stated should stay at home and pray god the help you out,cauze you'll need it soon,that goverment of tyranical perceptions must fall
away,remove your troops or you'll learn a savage lesson!
god doesn't like you and me either....
hail satan!