The X-Men vs The New Avengers

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh... this is really just X-Men vs Iron Man. Take out Iron Man they're all dead. With Iron Man there, NA i.e. Iron Man wins but they can't kill Shadowcat and she'd probably save her lover too. The NA are a very unbalanced team.

Blink would pwn him though and that's all that matters.

😆 it's true. Spider-man also has a bit going for him. He has tony's armor's ability to adapt to an energy attack as evident with his match against Stegron. Other than that, NA is pretty much unbalanced.

Kitty is quickly becoming the Invisible Woman of the X-men ✅

She started off with lame powers and whatnot, but she has grown to become more powerful, smarter and skilled.

Kitty is the main obstacle here 😉

The rest can be beaten withen a certain amount of effort

Originally posted by Sparkz
The iron man just simply moves out the way, kitty can't fly so then she falls from 300 feet into the air...

Kitty can fly. She just, well, doesn't. She's done it before. I have comic proof, just not on me since I'm work. But she does it in X-treme X-men. So really, Kitty can just fly to Iron Man and take him out. Everyone is figuring that he'll see it coming, too. Not if Storm or Cyclops are blasting away at him with lightning and optic blasts. She just flies right up behind him and bam. He's down.

Or, if I may use an old move, Cyke could pull the no-visor shot on Iron Man. He's not taking that well at all.

To be honest, besides Iron Man, I believe Iron Spider-man is the toughest foe here. He'd be the hardest one to hit and would probably prove to be quite the problem with a few of the X-men (Wolverine, Beast, Cyke), especially with his new costume. But he would eventually be taken out.

Anyway. The X-men win this fight. Far too powerful and versatile for these New Avengers.

People you are severely underestimating Spider-man, and Spider-Women for that matter. Spider-Women can release her phermones thing and there go all the men period. Spider-man with his new suit has the potential to take down Storm in my opinion. And if he doesnt get it done Iron Man finishes off the rest of the X-men. Spider-man takes Beast down, Wolverine and Cap stalemate for a long time, Jessica seduces Cyclops then moves to Colusses. Luke Cage holds off Colusses until Jessica gets there, although he will probably be pretty f*cked up by the time she gets there. Ironman punks storm Im sorry. He is just too powerful for her. Kitty is a problem here i guess, but IM will find a way to take her down, he's to smart not too.

Originally posted by nimbus006
People you are severely underestimating Spider-man, and Spider-Women for that matter. Spider-Women can release her phermones thing and there go all the men period. Spider-man with his new suit has the potential to take down Storm in my opinion. And if he doesnt get it done Iron Man finishes off the rest of the X-men. Spider-man takes Beast down, Wolverine and Cap stalemate for a long time, Jessica seduces Cyclops then moves to Colusses. Luke Cage holds off Colusses until Jessica gets there, although he will probably be pretty f*cked up by the time she gets there. Ironman punks storm Im sorry. He is just too powerful for her. Kitty is a problem here i guess, but IM will find a way to take her down, he's to smart not too.

I didn't underestimate Spider-Man at all. I know that he actually poses quite a threat here. Beast is a non-factor, since Spidey would quickly take care of him. Cyke could hold him at bay, but most likely not hit him. Spidey could also (even easier now) take out Wolverine. Storm would be out of his league, however. As would Shadowcat.

I do agree, however, that Wolverine and Cap will pretty much stalemate for the whole match until someone else intereferes with their fight.

Luke Cage will do no such thing against Colossus. That's just crazy-talk, my friend.

Spider-Woman's pheremones will have no affect on Colossus either, since he doesn't breathe or anything like that. So, with her thinking she's got him under control, he'll calmly move to her and snap her neck or something like that. Or really, any of the others can take her down.

Storm does play a valuable part here, although I do agree that Iron Man is more powerful/versatile and would beat her. That's why I think Shadowcat can take him instead. But, Storm could lay some damage down first, especially on everyone else who's not Iron Man.

Cyclops will just be quite the nuisance to all of the New Avengers. Optic blasts will target each of them. And save for Iron Man and probably Spider-Man, could prove fatal/KOing.

The X-men just have too much power/skill/versatility here to not win. As well as teamwork and experience from years of working together. Not that I'm taking that away from the NA, but this team of X-men has been working together longer than just what their name is--the NEW Avengers.

Key assets for each team:

X-men

-Shadowcat

-Storm

Avengers

Iron Man

the x-men definitley win here. storm and shadowcat are the biggest threats here. storm does in fact have force-fields...and kitty can do the whole phase and fly stunt. kitty should be able to take out tony's armor...and storm can literally take the rest. did anyone look at the pictures i posted? all the grounded characters are taken back by flash floods..and spider-woman and spider-man will literallly get taken up in the hurricane just like the sentinal in the pic i posted.

Wolverine is immortal and collossus practically invulnerable. Nuff said.
And this is quite the weird topic, friendly clans fighting each other ?

Originally posted by stormfront13
the x-men definitley win here. storm and shadowcat are the biggest threats here. storm does in fact have force-fields...and kitty can do the whole phase and fly stunt. kitty should be able to take out tony's armor...and storm can literally take the rest. did anyone look at the pictures i posted? all the grounded characters are taken back by flash floods..and spider-woman and spider-man will literallly get taken up in the hurricane just like the sentinal in the pic i posted.

HELLOOO-oooo .... is anyone aware of the fact that wolverine is unvulnerable and immortal ?

he's a pimple ti IM

Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
HELLOOO-oooo .... is anyone aware of the fact that wolverine is unvulnerable and immortal ?

No one is aware of it because what you say is incorrect. I'm just saying this now to save yourself a flaming from the other, more rabid members here.

Wolverine is neither invulnerable nor immortal. He has a healing factor and an adamantium skeleton. That's it.

Yeah ... but he always heals very quickly and he never ages. He can't die unless he hasn't got oxygen.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Iron Man >> Storm 😐

Cap > Wolverine

Ronin >> Wolverine

Storm could easily take out Iron Man given the right situation but in a team battle he'd have the edge.

Wolverine already fought Echo. He as in the forest and she attacked him the art work in the story in really expressive and surreal so it is difficult to see what is happening but before the fighting stop it seemed like Wolverine had the edge.

Also Wolverine has not only gotten the upper hand on Cap while he was mind controlled but he also stalemated him before and effortlessly saved Caps as when he was gettting owned by ninjas.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wolverine is neither invulnerable nor immortal. He has a healing factor and an adamantium skeleton. That's it.

Wolverine may very well be immortal. It has never be clarified in the pages of a comic BUT what has been said is that Dr. Cornelius suspected that he was. That was the very reason he was chosen for the Weapon X program and who knows more about Wolverine then Dr. Cornelius did(Pre HoM that is)? Is he immortal? Who can say. But considering the stuff he has survived the evidence supporting that he may be immortal far out weighs anything suggesting otherwise.

His cells renew every second stopping him from aging. If you don't die of age, your immortal too. No one really knows how old he is.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I didn't underestimate Spider-Man at all. I know that he actually poses quite a threat here. Beast is a non-factor, since Spidey would quickly take care of him. Cyke could hold him at bay, but most likely not hit him. Spidey could also (even easier now) take out Wolverine. Storm would be out of his league, however. As would Shadowcat.

I do agree, however, that Wolverine and Cap will pretty much stalemate for the whole match until someone else intereferes with their fight.

Luke Cage will do no such thing against Colossus. That's just crazy-talk, my friend.

Spider-Woman's pheremones will have no affect on Colossus either, since he doesn't breathe or anything like that. So, with her thinking she's got him under control, he'll calmly move to her and snap her neck or something like that. Or really, any of the others can take her down.

Storm does play a valuable part here, although I do agree that Iron Man is more powerful/versatile and would beat her. That's why I think Shadowcat can take him instead. But, Storm could lay some damage down first, especially on everyone else who's not Iron Man.

Cyclops will just be quite the nuisance to all of the New Avengers. Optic blasts will target each of them. And save for Iron Man and probably Spider-Man, could prove fatal/KOing.

The X-men just have too much power/skill/versatility here to not win. As well as teamwork and experience from years of working together. Not that I'm taking that away from the NA, but this team of X-men has been working together longer than just what their name is--the NEW Avengers.

I wasn't refering to your post, mostly the ones before. I know Luke Cage cannot hold down Colusses that why i said that he would be f*cked up after, but i had to do something with him. And thats a good point about Colusses not breathing. However, i do believe that Wolverine is more than capable of stalemating Cap. They both are supremely skilled fighters (whether or not you don't think Wolverine is), both are above peak human ability in alomst everything, and both have great defenses (Cap has shield, Wolverine- has Healing factor). Ironman is too much for either Kitty or Storm. Ironman stood up to the combined forces of all the mutants in the world combined (Collectivist)and wasn't even that phased. I believe he can handle Storm and Kitty. Since your right about Colusses not being phased by the phermones attack, then once Spiderman is done with Beast , he has a tough battle with Colusses which in my opinion tips in Spiderman scale at the end (He is just to versatile).Would be an interesting fight to be honest. Oh and i forgot about Echo, she can help Jessica by distracting Cyclops.

Don't underestimate Beast, he's very smart and very strong as well. And i don't think anyone can take on Wolverine OR Collossus.

Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
His cells renew every second stopping him from aging. If you don't die of age, your immortal too. No one really knows how old he is.

He was born in the late 19th century.

Iron Man's pretty quick now. In NA# 20 he flew pretty fast. He's much faster than anyone on that X-Men team. Storm's reflexes aren't anything special. He'd destroy her pretty quickly.

Originally posted by nimbus006
I wasn't refering to your post, mostly the ones before. I know Luke Cage cannot hold down Colusses that why i said that he would be f*cked up after, but i had to do something with him. And thats a good point about Colusses not breathing. However, i do believe that Wolverine is more than capable of stalemating Cap. They both are supremely skilled fighters (whether or not you don't think Wolverine is), both are above peak human ability in alomst everything, and both have great defenses (Cap has shield, Wolverine- has Healing factor). Ironman is too much for either Kitty or Storm. Ironman stood up to the combined forces of all the mutants in the world combined (Collectivist)and wasn't even that phased. I believe he can handle Storm and Kitty. Since your right about Colusses not being phased by the phermones attack, then once Spiderman is done with Beast which will be quick, he has a tough battle with Colusses which in my opinion tips in Spiderman scale at the end (He is just to versatile).

On thunder clap will win a fight for Collosus if he is fighting Spider-man. Spider-man can't avoid it and it would rupture every organ in his body and turn his insides into paste.