Originally posted by batdude123
*sigh* Grabbing at straws here Soleran. 🙄
Actually I thought your reading thousands of letters was a nice grab, 300times the speed of light, traveling the ENTIRE World in Seconds no problem. Instant travel only helps if you can see the target you need to hit and can travel there with your reactions.........................
SM cannot
Originally posted by Juntai
Seriously most of the members of the team can give Surfer at least a decent fight solo, the might of all 4 them smashes him badly.
Yes and once again SS can travel 300 times light speed hell make it 150 times light speed and use his powercosmic to be able to attack these clowns on the move, SS has the win based on his ability to pick the location and how he fights his adversaries, he has the best travel abilites and reaction speeds.
Originally posted by Soleran
Actually I thought your reading thousands of letters was a nice grab, 300times the speed of light, traveling the ENTIRE World in Seconds no problem. Instant travel only helps if you can see the target you need to hit and can travel there with your reactions.........................SM cannot
Oh really? Just out of curiosity, can you show some proof of Superman not being able to process anything at those speeds? All you have to hold onto is SS scanning the whole world really fast. Superman has plenty of speed feats that's over that. 😉
Originally posted by Soleran
Nope I don't need to get proof to show Superman can think and react at 300times the speed of light, you do.Hell your last photo of Superman reading through other peoples mail (federal offense what a clown) is far less then 300 times the speed of light, there is your proof thanks.
No, it was to show Superman's thinking speeds. You have yet to show (ANY scans for that matter) proof of Silver Surfer being able to actually proccess information faster than Superman can. It's pure speculation on your part. You are holding on to speculation for your arguements. 😉
Originally posted by SoleranDo you have a scan of Surfer in combat at 300 times lightspeed?
Nope I don't need to get proof to show Superman can think and react at 300times the speed of light, you do.Hell your last photo of Superman reading through other peoples mail (federal offense what a clown) is far less then 300 times the speed of light, there is your proof thanks.
Originally posted by batdude123
No, it was to show Superman's thinking speeds. You have yet to show (ANY scans for that matter) proof of Silver Surfer being able to actually proccess information faster than Superman can. It's pure speculation on your part. You are holding on to speculation for your arguements. 😉
No its your last stand to "attempt" to stump me. Show me a few comics Superman and SS appear in with multiple speed feats and we can talk about this proof you want....................................what your asking for is nonsense, mostly because you have nother better to bring to the table.
Until then we see Superman speeding at a few times the speed of light blowing up a moon of saturn, flying to the sun in a few minutes ok there you go...................................thats like duck walking backwards to SS speed..................
Originally posted by Soleran
sure cut them they bleed but try and transmute them it fails.................ok then, so Gods and Heralds of Galactus he cannot transmute. After looking at the list of combatants I am ok with that seeing as their are neither on the list that would have that resistance.It doesn't change the fact SS can do this and makes it all the easier for the win.
Really? So there is a rule against gods and heralds? Superman is and has been above standard "god level" for a looonnnng time. The rest of the group is on that level as well.
So until this point, not only has SS not been able to transmute low level beings...he's incapable of doing so to high level beings.
Interesting.
Originally posted by Soleran
No its your last stand to "attempt" to stump me. Show me a few comics Superman and SS appear in with multiple speed feats and we can talk about this proof you want....................................what your asking for is nonsense, mostly because you have nother better to bring to the table.Until then we see Superman speeding at a few times the speed of light blowing up a moon of saturn, flying to the sun in a few minutes ok there you go...................................thats like duck walking backwards to SS speed..................
The sun feat where he took Darkseid with him, was actually in a couple of seconds. 😉 However, has SS ever travelled so fast that he litterally instananeously travelled through time and creating a boom tube in the time dimension??? There is a flaw in using only one party to there full potential while having the other person fighting like a retard.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Really? So there is a rule against gods and heralds? Superman is and has been above standard "god level" for a looonnnng time. The rest of the group is on that level as well.So until this point, not only has SS not been able to transmute low level beings...he's incapable of doing so to high level beings.
Interesting.
oh I see where is your Superman rule book so I can quickly read up on Superman being above god level for a long time, like Gods of New Jobberness you mean or Avatars of DS after fights get retconned.............lol oh yeah.......................his rule book.
Where have you read SS cannot transmute low level beings..................
Originally posted by batdude123
The sun feat where he took Darkseid with him, was actually in a couple of seconds. 😉 However, has SS ever travelled so fast that he litterally instananeously travelled through time and creating a boom tube in the time dimension??? There is a flaw in using only one party to there full potential while having the other person fighting like a retard.
Yes SS has traveled so fast as a matter of fact he was traveling between time itself............................
You keep saying that I am only using SS potential and saying Superman is fighting like a retard. You are saying that, I haven't downplayed one Superman feat, I just put it into comparison with SS.
Originally posted by SoleranTime travel isn't one of Surfers standard abilities, the very few times he has usually has it was due to plot devices. Although if you're saying he bends time as he moves it doesn't mean much, because all the characters on the other team are capable of it. In fact, every member of the other team has higher end reaction in combat, and speed in combat feats.
Yes SS has traveled so fast as a matter of fact he was traveling between time itself............................You keep saying that I am only using SS potential and saying Superman is fighting like a retard. You are saying that, I haven't downplayed one Superman feat, I just put it into comparison with SS.
Just a week or two ago Surfer was laid down by the Incredible Hulk in a couple of blows, and you think he's standing up to this team?
Originally posted by Juntai
Time travel isn't one of Surfers standard abilities, the very few times he has usually has it was due to plot devices. Although if you're saying he bends time as he moves it doesn't mean much, because all the characters on the other team are capable of it. In fact, every member of the other team has higher end reaction in combat, and speed in combat feats.Just a week or two ago Surfer was laid down by the Incredible Hulk in a couple of blows, and you think he's standing up to this team?
And the fight with the Hulk is not worth mentioning.....😬