Originally posted by O Green World
I've always wondered what an atheists reason for existing is... Since they don't really have to exist anyways, when they die they'll dissappear so....what's the point in living when it's all in vain?
Life is meaningless only if you want it to be meaningless or let it be meaningless. Meaning cannot be imposed from the outside. If a person' s life has meaning, it is because of what that person values - and that, in turn, relies upon the character and experiences of that person as an individual.
Originally posted by O Green World
I've always wondered what an atheists reason for existing is... Since they don't really have to exist anyways, when they die they'll dissappear so....what's the point in living when it's all in vain?
Re: people who don't believe in religion.
Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
how are you going to argue religion if you don't have one, or you have multiple? at least have one religion and stick with, or don't argue cause you can't even choose your own religion.
Hmmm...
1) don't argue abortion unless you have had one. 😮
2) don't argue homosexuality unless you are one 😄
2) don't argue capital punishment unless you died by one 😈
Makes too much sense!....... a religion is more of a belief. I think when you get to that stage, you are already biased and you may even be already brainwashed. and the one without that belief could be a more rational debater in that case and may be your savior from your own religion. ......and I may not have a religion yet because I am still thinking about which of them is more right😮💨
Originally posted by Storm
When someone else imposes upon us a purpose of their own design, aren' t we little more than slaves?Life is meaningless only if you want it to be meaningless or let it be meaningless. Meaning cannot be imposed from the outside. If a person' s life has meaning, it is because of what that person values - and that, in turn, relies upon the character and experiences of that person as an individual.
So, would locus of absolute, or perhaps relative, control be the issue when objectively viewing religious attitude whether Atheist, Agnostic or some denomination?
The real difference being amount of control one believes one has as far as personal existence.
Originally posted by O Green World
I've always wondered what an atheists reason for existing is... Since they don't really have to exist anyways, when they die they'll dissappear so....what's the point in living when it's all in vain?
So they can make you feel more important than what you really are, just because you have something ............................that they do not even need or want. 😈
If a religion does not teach tolerance then it is a FALSE religion. because GOD almighty is all about TOLERANCE and LOVE my dear friend.
Not to discourage or anything from having a religion, just make sure you don't have a FALSE one. 😄
Re: people who don't believe in religion.
Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
how are you going to argue religion if you don't have one, or you have multiple? at least have one religion and stick with, or don't argue cause you can't even choose your own religion.
You don't have to be religious to understand religion.
A General and/or extensive knowledge of religion is enough to participate in a religious debate, ESPECIALLY in the debate that deals with social issues.
Originally posted by TheSpinnerI believe there is some sort of intelligence. Even on the sub atomic level things that we cannot see act in an intelligent way. There seems to be attractions and forces that pull things to and against you.......though we may not understand exactly why this happens, we are learning that indeed it DOES happen......
Damn! you guys seem to be everywhere. Cool!But seriously do you guys believe in GOD or some kind of intelligence or anything of the sort. I mean what is the general idea? Please educate me a little. I am so deficient in this matter.
Thanks
Originally posted by TheSpinner
Damn! you guys seem to be everywhere. Cool!But seriously do you guys believe in GOD or some kind of intelligence or anything of the sort. I mean what is the general idea? Please educate me a little. I am so deficient in this matter.
Thanks
Athiests by definiton do not believe in god or any god-like being. Atheism in itself lacks a central religious dogma beyond this, making it not really a relgion, but more a religious philosophy. There is much variation and dabate about lesser influences...but mainly athiest agree that if there is some sort of supernatural "intelligence" or the like...it is not conscious.
Personally. I don't believe that there is anything drivng the universe. There are natural laws which we can discover through questioning, logic, and science. These laws pphsyically make things the way they are. I like to think of a library as my place of worship. I believe the greatest authority/power available is man and that we control our own destiny. Your life will be what you make of it. Thats a biref introduction. I don't like spewing personal belifs that have few direct sociological ramifications.
Originally posted by Alliance
Athiests by definiton do not believe in god or any god-like being. Atheism in itself lacks a central religious dogma beyond this, making it not really a relgion, but more a religious philosophy. There is much variation and dabate about lesser influences...but mainly athiest agree that if there is some sort of supernatural "intelligence" or the like...it is not conscious.Personally. I don't believe that there is anything drivng the universe. There are natural laws which we can discover through questioning, logic, and science. These laws pphsyically make things the way they are. I like to think of a library as my place of worship. I believe the greatest authority/power available is man and that we control our own destiny. Your life will be what you make of it. Thats a biref introduction. I don't like spewing personal belifs that have few direct sociological ramifications.
Thanks Alliance, my being deficient was in reference to the fact that I did not have a clear understanding of atheism and its philosophies regarding the understanding and explaining of the extraordinary. I was just kind of guessing that if atheists did not believe in GOD that they must believe at least in some system or concept of some sort. based on which they develop their understanding and explanations of things.
Originally posted by Debbiejo
I believe there is some sort of intelligence. Even on the sub atomic level things that we cannot see act in an intelligent way. There seems to be attractions and forces that pull things to and against you.......though we may not understand exactly why this happens, we are learning that indeed it DOES happen......
Thanks Debbiejo, and I do tend to agree with what you have said. I do believe that there are several forms and levels of intelligence everywhere and that we may just not be aware of them or understand them yet.
Originally posted by Bardock42
And to somehow happen to make a right guess, is better....how?
Of course you failing to comprehend what ''choosing not to choose is already a wrong choice'' - an age long saying, means should not surprise me.
Philosophy and meaning behind the saying is evidently beyond you.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have to agree with you, but it took me 20 years to realize that. 😉 Or should I say, it took me 20 years to be ready for the Lotus sutra. 😄