people who don't believe in religion.

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Originally posted by TheSpinner
Damn! you guys seem to be everywhere. Cool!

But seriously do you guys believe in GOD or some kind of intelligence or anything of the sort. I mean what is the general idea? Please educate me a little. I am so deficient in this matter.

Thanks

To beleive in a higher being but that's your only beleif, thats called agonistic.

No, to be agnostic is to believe that the question of a god (or gods) is impossible to answer. It's not a belief in either a god or a lack of a god, rather it is a view on the possibility of knowledge of such a god.

Agnosticism is a catch all for people who don't believe either way.

Originally posted by Alliance
Agnosticism is a catch all for people who don't believe either way.

True. It's really a cop out in my opinion. It's an easy way to play the fense without taking a stand. It's Politician in positioning.

"A man who doesn't stand for something will stand for anything."

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No...its called being rational.

Originally posted by Alliance
No...its called being rational.

Call it what you will. I call it spineless. No backbone.

Becuase peopel want to take time to analyze the situation?

Originally posted by Alliance
Becuase peopel want to take time to analyze the situation?

I spent 24 years analyzing the situation. But your previous posts reveal to me a mindset that in the end... it is usually hopeless.

Your analysis is not the same as everone elses. Judging how you think now...I dont find you more credible.

Originally posted by Alliance
Your analysis is not the same as everone elses. Judging how you think now...I dont find you more credible.

Fair enough...

ok.

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
True. It's really a cop out in my opinion. It's an easy way to play the fense without taking a stand. It's Politician in positioning.

"A man who doesn't stand for something will stand for anything."

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I don't think that is true, but it is an unfortunate sign of the times. Sometimes it is ok to say "I don't know." I know I would prefer that sometimes to the people who scream to "know the truth and if you don't believe you'll go to hell"

I most probably border on agnosticism and atheism. I am practical and rational and I don't really believe. But! I can't say for certain there is no God/Gods. I am open to the idea, but I see no proof.

Now, is this fence sitting because I won't believe or disbelieve without some proof? I think not. It is, for me, intellectually practical. I am not going to believe on the off chance some great big light with an attitude is going to judge me - he wants me, then he can deliver some proof. But that the same time I will reasonably debate with reasonable believers, because while I don't think it is likely, I can't say for 100% that there isn't anything.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I most probably border on agnosticism and atheism. I am practical and rational and I don't really believe. But! I can't say for certain there is no God/Gods. I am open to the idea, but I see no proof.

I get around that by this methodology.

Its very logical that all gods we know of were made up by man.

There is no direct or conclusive evidence that gods exist.

If gods existed, because they are by nature a-logical...nature itself would most likely be less reductionist and logical. Its not.

If you want to prove something...you have to prove an affirmative, you don't prove a negative. (YOu have to prove gods exist, not gods don't exist)

Its impossible to prove that gods exist.

Therefore, for all practical purposes and for reasonable everyday life...I am athiest.

Originally posted by O Green World
I've always wondered what an atheists reason for existing is... Since they don't really have to exist anyways, when they die they'll dissappear so....what's the point in living when it's all in vain?

Not belonging to a religion doesn't mean you don't have beliefs, religions are one person's belief that has spread, at the beginning it was only an idea. Atheists can believe in whatever they want, religious people just follow the group.

Originally posted by Alliance
I get around that by this methodology.

Its very logical that all gods we know of were made up by man.

There is no direct or conclusive evidence that gods exist.

If gods existed, because they are by nature a-logical...nature itself would most likely be less reductionist and logical. Its not.

If you want to prove something...you have to prove an affirmative, you don't prove a negative. (YOu have to prove gods exist, not gods don't exist)

Its impossible to prove that gods exist.

Therefore, for all practical purposes and for reasonable everyday life...I am athiest.

Essentially correct.

not all religous peopel follow groups

but atheists and agnostics dont have centralized phiosophies adn are therefore oftem more diverse in their opinons...but then again maybe not.

Originally posted by Legion_of_Maul
how are you going to argue religion if you don't have one, or you have multiple? at least have one religion and stick with, or don't argue cause you can't even choose your own religion.

Should people that don't have a gun not be able to comment on laws about gun control? Or people who can't vote should they be allowed to discuss politics?

Originally posted by LethalFemme
Should people that don't have a gun not be able to comment on laws about gun control? Or people who can't vote should they be allowed to discuss politics?

Very true!

even people who don't beleve in a higher or being or greater good thing or watever, like god or buddha, (much like me i don't believe in any of that crap shat) still believe in something probally most of the time scientific explanations much like myself

Originally posted by Alliance
not all religous peopel follow groups

but atheists and agnostics dont have centralized phiosophies adn are therefore oftem more diverse in their opinons...but then again maybe not.

Is diversity of opinions how we find truth? Maybe by chance we strike gold?