Palpatine = Sidious very obvious from beginning

If I remember correctly, in Episode V, someone directly called the Emperor "Emperor Palpatine". When Episode I came out, I hadn't seen any of the others for about two years, but then hearing Palpatine's name struck a chord in my memory, so I watched the movies again. And there was the mention of the name Palpatine, so I knew far before most people that he was the Emperor, and since Sidious and the Emperor shared many physical qualities it was common sense that they would be one and the same. And I was right.

If there's anyone out there who thinks that they can directly prove me wrong, I dare you.

"Palpatine" was never mentioned in the OT movies. Only in the scripts and novelizations.

Yeah, I saw it in my official SW handbook decades ago. SO WHEN I SAW TEH PHANTOM MENACE I WASN'T FOOLED!! HAHA!!

Originally posted by KingDubya
If I remember correctly, in Episode V, someone directly called the Emperor "Emperor Palpatine". When Episode I came out, I hadn't seen any of the others for about two years, but then hearing Palpatine's name struck a chord in my memory, so I watched the movies again. And there was the mention of the name Palpatine, so I knew far before most people that he was the Emperor, and since Sidious and the Emperor shared many physical qualities it was common sense that they would be one and the same. And I was right.

If there's anyone out there who thinks that they can directly prove me wrong, I dare you.

Really? I never knew that Darth Sidious and Emperor Palpatine were one in the same until Episode III revealed it to me. I guess that was a huge secret like Anakin becoming Darth Vader.

I pretty much figured it out in TPM because Sidious looked a lot like Palp to me also and the fact he was so interested in Anakin helped too.

I wasn't 100% sure that Palpatine in the EP I and II was going to turn out to be the emperor in EP III. I thought that Lucas was going to surprise us in EP III, revealing that Palpatine was not going to be emperor. For example, maybe the sith lord Darth Sidious killed Palpatine and just stole his identity in EP III

Yeah. Lucas struck me as the type to not let such a thing become that obvious . . . Kind've like "it's so obvious - it's gotta be a trick".

But, sure enough . . .

Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Really? I never knew that Darth Sidious and Emperor Palpatine were one in the same until Episode III revealed it to me. I guess that was a huge secret like Anakin becoming Darth Vader.

🤨 you ARE joking right?

I figured it out right at the end of TPM, after Mace said "But which one was destroyed? The master, or the apprentice?" And then the camera panned to Palpatine.

I remember people denying that Palpatine was Sidious due to the fact that Emperor Palpatine, whilst never referred to by name, was also never referred to as Sidious.

Good thing it's the same actor, then.

In a rush to sound clever and original, people tried to deny all sorts of obvious stuff, including some total gibberish about Palpatine and cloning that went on for some time.

Indeed it was very clear that they were the same person, but indeed, no, the name 'Palpatine' was not used in the OT films.

It was obvious, me and my mother (I don't know why we were discussing it xD) noticed it straight away. You could tell by the actors aswell.

For some reason before TPM came out I knew the Emperor's name was Palpatine so it wasn't a shock.

Action figures and books. 😉

it was easy...when mace says "but which was destroyed, the master, or the apprentice?" in tpm, the cam moves straight to palps...that and in one of the books i've got some imp officer say "emperor palpatine!!"...2 and 2....

Originally posted by Captain REX
I remember people denying that Palpatine was Sidious due to the fact that Emperor Palpatine, whilst never referred to by name, was also never referred to as Sidious.

Good thing it's the same actor, then.

Oh my god, I was one of those people saying that Sidious wasn't the Emperor because they didn't share the same name! 😮

In TPM when Queen Amidala said "Senator Palpatine!" as his hologram was disrupted, I thought, 'is that the emperor?!' But it was a long time since I had read the OT books. I thought it was used in the books but wasn't sure. I didn't go back and check because I had to go in spoiler free for the remainder of the PT!

Originally posted by Razielim
"Palpatine" was never mentioned in the OT movies. Only in the scripts and novelizations.

Originally posted by KingDubya
But I'm going to go through Ep. V again just to make sure...

"Palpatine" was never spoken in the OT. Neither was "Sidious" or "Darth" as a title.

(shuffles papers) Where is that list of not-spoken OT words?

IF you said Sidious and Palpatine were the same before Episode III release you would get flamed and torched because everyone had all these reasons they wern't the same.

Originally posted by KingDubya
I knew that one of the OT movies was my source. But I'm going to go through Ep. V again just to make sure...

The fact that Palpatine/Sidious/The Emperor are the same people was never supposed to be a secret... From the back of my Episode I VHS box:

"Obi-Wan Kenobi, the wise old Jedi from the original series, is a determined young apprentice and Palpatine, well known as the evil Emperor, is an ambitious Senator in the Galactic Republic..."