Batman vs. Ultimate Colossus

Started by Metalmanx4 pages
Originally posted by Juntai
Well, say they were to fight ten times, and each time they completely forgot their last confratation... Batman won't come up with the sonic device or another thing everytime believably... so I also believe Collosus would take the majority. Bat's CAN win, as he can against most opponents, but without prep he's at a loss here, and the likelyhood for winning slides drastically... 2-4/10 Batman.

I'll go with that, that makes sense if his sonics work the same way Arcade's do. But yea, I'll agree with that score.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I suppose you could see it that way. But then you have to wonder what feats to believe on Colossus's part. He's been knocked out before, and stayed transformed. Then Arcade hits him with a sonic device, he reverts back to human and then passes out. Just seems weird compared to all the other punishment he's taken before and didn't have to transform back.

😐

http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/8437/legendsofthedarkknight205pg037.jpg

Here's the scan by the way.

I think 6/10 for Colossus sounds about right.

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/8437/legendsofthedarkknight205pg037.jpg

Here's the scan by the way.

I think 6/10 for Colossus sounds about right.

Where was that scan in the DareDevil/Batman debate.

This fight depends on the circumstances. If Bats knows Colossus' weaknesses then he wins the majority. If he does not then Colossus wins the majority.

And what would his weakness be?

Originally posted by Accel
And what would his weakness be?
Sonics, eyes, etc.

Originally posted by Soleran
Batman would get drilled by the Russian powerhouse, just straight drilled I tell you!
😆 😆 😆 funny as f'uck

Colossus takes this match here 6-7/10.

Actually I don't even know if Colossus' eyes are a weakness. Sure Falcon put him down with a eye poke but I think that may have been some bad writing. He's survived nukes, the ocean floor and other things but yet a street level dude puts him down with a poke to the eye?

H2h Batman has a slim chance. His only chance is his sonic attack. All other weapons in his belt would be useless unless Batman has a lazer in his belt also.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually I don't even know if Colossus' eyes are a weakness. Sure Falcon put him down with a eye poke but I think that may have been some bad writing. He's survived nukes, the ocean floor and other things but yet a street level dude puts him down with a poke to the eye?

H2h Batman has a slim chance. His only chance is his sonic attack. All other weapons in his belt would be useless unless Batman has a lazer in his belt also.

when did he get nuked? and this is ultimate colossus so there may be a bit of a difference.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually I don't even know if Colossus' eyes are a weakness. Sure Falcon put him down with a eye poke but I think that may have been some bad writing. He's survived nukes, the ocean floor and other things but yet a street level dude puts him down with a poke to the eye?

H2h Batman has a slim chance. His only chance is his sonic attack. All other weapons in his belt would be useless unless Batman has a lazer in his belt also.

Laser Torch?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Colossus is:

-By no means slow, he's actually faster than a peak human, in level 3 of super-speed, in both reflexes AND speed.
-Surprisingly tactical, he doesn't just charge into fights everytime the way most powerhouses do.

That eye thing really needs to be retconned. Colossus dove to the BOTTOM OF THE DAMN OCEAN and carried a gi-normous submarine back up to shore. If he had normal eyes, they would've imploded from the sheer pressure of this task. Wait, I have another example. He also took a direct, localized nuclear blast. Tell me, what happens to eyes that are in range of a nuclear blast? They melt. Colossus's eyes didn't melt. I can't believe they went and did that to him, it's such bull and completely contradicts his previous feats. And that was only brought out in the Ultimate Galactus arc, right? Is that cannon to Ultimate?

Even still, his eyes are small. I don't think Bats will have the chance to do that to him before he gets stomped. Especially since Colossus's endurance and stamina is FAR superior to Batman's (nigh-limitless, for all intents and purposes).

Originally posted by The Pict
when did he get nuked? and this is ultimate colossus so there may be a bit of a difference.
You havn't seen this pic?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossuandThor2.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You havn't seen this pic?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossuandThor2.jpg

yeah i have that volume, but that was a mini nuke.........................................................................................................................yeah mini nuke was the best i could come up with.

Ultimate Colossus can take out Batman surely. The thing is he can stop a 300-320 tons express train at full speed without moving, just stopping or bringing up a big ass submarine a K-141 which is truly over a 100 tons it's displacement 16,000 tons (not weight it's water displacement). His reflexes and movement isn't slow either, not super-speed but good reflexes...We can also talk about some fighting skill too...

about the whole eyes thing, maybe his eyes aren't steel, which is debatable since he did go to the bottom of the ocean and survive a mini nuke without any damage to them, but even if they aren't steel, his eyelids are. batman throws something at him, i'm pretty sure his first reflex would be to close his eyes, as is the reflex of almost any animal or human with eyes... so although its plausible that something hits him in the eyes, as stupid as that is, its extremely unlikely unless its coming at high speed without warning. and the supersonic ear pain thing... only works when he is in metal form and it can reverberate in his skull, and it has to be set to a specific frequency. so if by any chance its at the right frequency and does hurt colossus im sure colossus is capable of turning back human and holding his own for at least enough time to disarm batman or at least get him to stop buzzing the thing, and turn back.

just my opinion about those two "weaknesses".

other than that, even though he is experiencing pain colossus has fought through it in the past, ahem MAGNETO. so the pain will not necessarily stop him from charging over there and putting batman's imprint in the adamantium enforced wall. 🙂

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Where was that scan in the DareDevil/Batman debate.

This fight depends on the circumstances. If Bats knows Colossus' weaknesses then he wins the majority. If he does not then Colossus wins the majority.

But Bats wouldn't know his weaknesses (mainly his ears), because that would be/require some sort of prep.

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
about the whole eyes thing, maybe his eyes aren't steel, which is debatable since he did go to the bottom of the ocean and survive a mini nuke without any damage to them, but even if they aren't steel, his eyelids are. batman throws something at him, i'm pretty sure his first reflex would be to close his eyes, as is the reflex of almost any animal or human with eyes... so although its plausible that something hits him in the eyes, as stupid as that is, its extremely unlikely unless its coming at high speed without warning. and the supersonic ear pain thing... only works when he is in metal form and it can reverberate in his skull, and it has to be set to a specific frequency. so if by any chance its at the right frequency and does hurt colossus im sure colossus is capable of turning back human and holding his own for at least enough time to disarm batman or at least get him to stop buzzing the thing, and turn back.

just my opinion about those two "weaknesses".

other than that, even though he is experiencing pain colossus has fought through it in the past, ahem MAGNETO. so the pain will not necessarily stop him from charging over there and putting batman's imprint in the adamantium enforced wall. 🙂

Exactly.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
But Bats wouldn't know his weaknesses (mainly his ears), because that would be/require some sort of prep.

And exactly again.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And exactly again.
Greatest detective. That's what would afford him the aforementioned wins[ in my other posts a while back in the thread]. Finding and exploiting weakness in ample time.