I finally saw it this past weekend. I liked it but is one of those movies that you dont watch more than once or twice. While it wasnt great it kept me enterntained. I liked the part when he saves the plane and reveals to thw world he is back. Feel good moment right there. Some of the things I liked:
Superman: Kinda reminded me of Chris Reeves and while mostly he had kinda slow dialog so did C.Rs Superman.
Richard White: I liked the fact that they didnt make him a punk. He came off as a nice guy, he was pretty good to the kid. Finally Cyclops got the exposure he didnt get in X3. He held his own.
Sun: I liked how he used the sun to get better. While its common knowledge it wasnt really used in previous movies.
Things I didnt liked:
Lois lane: Im sorry but I didnt believe she was Lois Lane, I didnt even find believable that she smokes. She was such a bad choice for the role. I didnt find any chemistry between her and Supes. I wonder, If Superman erased her mind at the end of Superman 2(best Superman movie) How she knows is his kid?
Lex Luthor: I had no problem with Kevin Spacey's acting but it wasnt the Lex Luthor I expected. Michale Rosenbaum form Smallville makes a better Luthor, hell the JLA cartoon Lex is better than the movies. Him and Supes didnt even have no interaction whatsoever until the whole continent thing.
The kid: He didnt need a kid. They messed it up because whoever comes along has to incorporate the kid into the storylines. They couldve attributed the whole piano thing as adrenaline rush or whatever.
The plot: Terrible storyline. While I understand the whole "continentt" thing, even that it was habitable as a result of the crystals borrowing from the earths materilas or whatever but it was a ridiculous story.
As soon as I saw that Jon Peters was producing I thought about a freaking giant spiders(I recently saw the very funny movie An Evening with Kevin Smith)
just watched superman the return. it was a good movie not great. I have some issues about the direction. CGI was the best i had ever seen in a movie, but my problem was that i thought superman was supposed to find it hard for him to return to a world different that the one he left five years before it seemed to me that it was easy for him to return everyone is happy and glad but the story in my opinion could have been better if people didnot want him back and actually showed heroes super or other wise resent the fact that they were still fighting the good fight because of the "inspiration" of the man of steel and then feel betrayed that he left without saying a word. it just seemed to me that the major obstacle he had to endure was only of the physical kind and of course supes will get over that because well he is supes but if he had to deal with people not all that concern with his return and for him to figure what to do and how to be relevant would have been a better movie. I thought that was the supposed direction for this film. i will address luthor another time
i thought kevin spacey was not bad i think that the way lex is portrayed as a supervillian crook is not good the characterization of lex, in small ville and the animated superman and justice league lex is portrayed as a brilliant multimillionaire genius who is wise and evil at the same time. watch Michael rossenbaum in small ville to appreciated what lex should have been like in the movie, for SR, they should have made lex become a respectable member of society during supes hiatus, and now supes must deal with society not trusting him like they did before dont forget he is an alien no one knows he grew up in a farm, louis moving on with some guy and also society looking at lex as a role model of rehabilitation in society, lex hates supes because he feels he makes humans lazy and rely on him to solve all of their problems, that would have capture the audience better, it just my 0.02 cents i
Originally posted by C-Dic
It's just that after reading so many peoples comments at DVDTalk, we all agree that it wasn't well put together, because it hinges on a ****ing paternity issue, and Superman's entire involvement is overshadowed by it. The pieces don't fit.
What? That was such a small part of the plot of this movie, how can you say the movie hinges on it? Besides, it makes perfect sense to the entire story of Superman dating back to the Christopher Reeve ones. It also directly corrilates with one of the main personal conflicts that the character of Superman had during the entire movie. Not being human and finding companionship. It's just such a little thing to complain about, I don't get it.
Originally posted by C-Dic
It's just that after reading so many peoples comments at DVDTalk, we all agree that it wasn't well put together, because it hinges on a ****ing paternity issue, and Superman's entire involvement is overshadowed by it. The pieces don't fit.
The paternity issue didnt show up till well in the movie when Lex brought it up. 😬
Hows about when Lois introduced him to Clark in the office? The kid took a whiff of off an inhaler a la Reeve in the original.
Spoiler:
if you didn't know it was has by then, and you saw the original, you have to be incredibly ignorant.
From then on out, whenever they were in peril, the camera panned to the kid as if to say "Well, go ahead!"
Saw the film yesterday, loved it.
Id say 9/10.
It fell perfectly in line with Superman and Superman II, and made me hopeful for a great new trilogy.
I went in knowing all the criticisms of some viewers( the kid, lex's plot, not enough action) and they didn't jump out at me.
If you really were to look at this film as the story of Superman coming back after having been gone for 5 years, directly after the events of Superman II, then all those "complaints" are actual valid plot points.
The kid just continues from Lois and Supes sleeping together in II, Luthors plan is the same becuase HE is the same, (Except for being a mite bit meaner and hardened by prison which is shown by him SHANKING supes for God's sake.)
As for not enough action, I hardly noticed.
Haters can suck it.
Superman has returned.
I thought it was pretty good. However I did find out something after I had watched the movie that made me frown. Its been a longstanding tradition in Superman stuff for the line "Truth, Justice, and the American way" to be given but in this translation it was given as "Truth, Justice, and all that other stuff..." It makes me wonder why Singer did that 😕
saw the movie... twice. why? because first off, i liked it. two, my friend kept talking to me during my first viewing that i missed some parts. and three, you tend to discover things and have a deeper understanding of the movie since you've been "caught up" and not distracted by the "ooohh, another action sequence coming" anticipation.
the movie was a great summer flick. i enjoyed it thoroughly. though i must admit, some scenes were just dragging on. and kate bosworth was just... bleh. didn't like here since she was catsted. bad choice for a lois lane. erica durance would've been better, or rachel mcadams like BF said.
lex luthor's character was the same lex luthor from the reeve's movie. in the 1st one, wanted land too. in the secoond, he just wanted to kill superman for puttinghim in jail. in superman returns, he wanted land and wanted to kill superman for bringing him back to jail. i thought spacey did a fine job.
the rest of the cast did good, IMO. they all played their part. superman having a kid is fine by me. i didn't find it totally out of place since him and lois got it on in the fortress in superman 2. though the memory wipe thing seems like a plot hole. either that or superman was so0o0o good in bed that even the memory wipe was useless on lois' memory. droolio