Battle #1

Started by Devil Lance8 pages

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Glads full confidence still wouldn't be enough. Again Glads alone will not be powerful enough to break the bubble. He will break the first one. But like I said in my first post, Quasar will form a second bubble around him. When he does break the first one, he'll have a hell of a time breaking out of the second one. And as he watches his comrades fall one by one, even with telepathic help from MM, his confidence will plummet. So will his powers.

Strong bubbles:

Branhole posted a scan up there of Thanos breaking the Quasar's bubble.

I can tell you one thing, Gladiator sure ain't Thaons.

I want to battle you with Ronan, but I have to leave that to Accel. All I will say is Ronan can adapt in almost any situation and to almost anyone's powers. πŸ™‚ Okay I won't say anymore bout Ronan. :

Again Accel will be debating for Ronan. But I can speak about Orion. Again, Quasar VS. Orion bad idea. Orion very powerful. Wields the Astroforce... Ooooohhhh... Scary.... His Astroforce will be so powerful, his energy signature will make him easy to track by Quasar, and Quasar will put him down fast. Just like this Watcher:

Orion ain't no Watcher. πŸ˜›

Even if Gladiator tries to evade Quasar, Orion will be already dead or incapacitated due to Quasar. Hyperion will see Quasar battling Orion. Hyperion will be all over Gladiator if he tries to blindside Quasar. Gladiator had a tough fight with the Squadron Supreme version of Hyperion. This version of Hyperion is stronger, faster, and more sadistic. Not to mention He's also wearing Quantum armor and wielding a Quantum Sword and a Quantum Shield. The Quantum Armor provides extra durability. Keep in mind, everyone on my team is wearing the Quantum Armor. Hyperion will cut Gladiator down. Hell, even if Quasar gets blindsided by a punch, what's that gonna do? His armor will protect him from physical harm. All it will do is knock him back.

Hyperion is fast as you can see here:

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp173qd.jpg

Doing what Superman did to Doomsday shows how fast Hyperion is. The Squadron Supreme version of Hyperion kept up with Glads in a battle, this Hyperion is no different. Except this version of Hyperion is stronger, better, and has more of a mean streak if you know what I mean. He'll be able to keep up with Glads no problem. All of those extra appendages would be lopped off by Hyperion. A dose of Flash Vision, MM will be reliving his fire fear, because he will be set a blaze after getting hit with it. Actually, it'll probably blow a hole through him or melt through his skin.

Ok... MM will be assaulting Hyperion and Ronan... You seem to have forgotten about Quasar. With Orion out of the picture, Quasar could choose to help Ronan battle MM for a while and help Ronan gangbang MM. Or he could help Hyperion easily dispatch Gladiator. Pick a scenario. Your characters are dead in either one.

I'll pick both and give you options on how your characters will meet their endπŸ™‚

If Quasar helps Ronan and battles MM. MM will find himself in a heap of trouble fast. While MM is occupied by Ronan, Quasar could encase MM in a powerful bubble, and fly MM into the sun himself. Man... If MM didn't like fire before, he sure ain't gonna love it now. The sun will kill MM. But not Quasar.

See:

Quasar flew into the sun saving Binary. He could easily do the same to MM while he's encased in a construct.

Now... If Quasar went onto help Hyperion instead, Glads would be in big trouble. If Gladiator was somehow able to avoid Quasar, he wouldn't be able to avoid Hyperion and Quasar at the same time. Quasar will catch Glads in restraints like this:

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/676/gladq3kd8qp.png

Giving Hyperion a second or two to shove his Quantum sword through Gladiator's heart. Also lopping off his head just in case. Sure Glads broke those restraints, but you also see how vulnerable he was. Now imagine Hyperion with a Quantum Sword impaling Glads in the picture link above.

Yep, good old telepathy... Too bad normal telepathy doesn't work on Quasar.

If it was magical telepathy, that would be another story. But normal telepathy doesn't seem to work well against him. Quasar could make constructs in his sleep. MM's telepathy will have no affect whatsoever on Quasar.


Gladiator shouldn't have trouble breaking the second bubble since Quasar isn't concentrating on it and lit will not be hard for glads to break.

and heat fear πŸ˜† someonje hasn't been keeping up with DC comics lately .
oMartian Manhunter isn't vulnerable to heat any more at all, and by the way MM will be intagible and invisble so none of your team can find him.

Also heres Gladiators fight against Hyperion.
Which shows Gladiator being able to recover faster and move a bit faster than Hyperion
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion024vq.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion033sd.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?
image=gladiatorvshyperion049nv.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion053gh.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion063ae.jpg

and since I can't edit my last post I might as well put this here
this shows that even back wehn he was 'vulnerable" it wa sjust the fera of it that hurt him not the heat itself as shown here
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brimstone15qk.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brimstone26hs.jpg

and now that the fear si gobne Hyperions Heat Vison should not harm MM that much if at all

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Gladiator shouldn't have trouble breaking the second bubble since Quasar isn't concentrating on it and lit will not be hard for glads to break.

and heat fear πŸ˜† someonje hasn't been keeping up with DC comics lately .
oMartian Manhunter isn't vulnerable to heat any more at all, and by the way MM will be intagible and invisble so none of your team can find him.

All right!!! If you keep wasting your posts on meaningless one like this I'll have this tourney won in no time.

MM cannot interfere with Quasar making his bubbles. Again telepathy is not effective against Quasar. Unless it's telepathy doused with magic, then it might work. Glads will have a hard time breaking the second bubble. Glads will be stuck in there until Quasar lets him out.

Unless Glads is more powerful than all those heroes pounding on that bubble of his, or if Glads is as powerful as Thanos, their's no way he's breaking that bubble.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
and heat fear πŸ˜† someonje hasn't been keeping up with DC comics lately .
oMartian Manhunter isn't vulnerable to heat any more at all, and by the way MM will be intagible and invisble so none of your team can find him.

I think you misunderstood me DL. What I said was if KH blasts MM with his Flash Vision, he will relive his fear of fire on a first hand basis. Only thing it'll be with a lot more pain, and possibly his own death. He may not have that fear anymore, but I doubt he's invulnerable to it. Is MM immune against Superman's heat vision? I mean if he were to blast MM, he'd certainly feel it or possibly be killed by it if Superman really meant it. And guess what... This version of Hyperion would have no reservations about killing. And MM will certainly feel his Flash vision since it will be filled with Hyperion's malicious intent to kill. πŸ™‚

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Also heres Gladiators fight against Hyperion.
Which shows Gladiator being able to recover faster and move a bit faster than Hyperion
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion024vq.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion033sd.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?
image=gladiatorvshyperion049nv.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion053gh.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiatorvshyperion063ae.jpg

That's the Squadron Supreme version of Hyperion. Not the King Hyperion version I have.

This is the power of King Hyperion:

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0622005puardcp211ou.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0622005puardcp225el.jpg

That's Holocaust there. He practically sniffed him up.

Owning Mags and his Brotherhood:

http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p192eu.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p200mb.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p211sl.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p227tb.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p239jg.jpg

Holding his own against 2 Hyperions at the same time:

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp02039vf.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp041ho.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp056hm.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp064ty.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp074va.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp083te.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp097wj.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp109hg.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp111fz.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp127ww.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp133xo.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp158tv.jpg

He was doing fine against two Superman level characters. Each of these Hyperions would give Glads a good hard fight. King Hyperion was holding his own against both of them.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
and since I can't edit my last post I might as well put this here
this shows that even back wehn he was 'vulnerable" it wa sjust the fera of it that hurt him not the heat itself as shown here
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brimstone15qk.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brimstone26hs.jpg

and now that the fear si gobne Hyperions Heat Vison should not harm MM that much if at all

Here's how I see it.

Majestic = Superman = Hyperion

Laser Vision = Heat Vision = Flash Vision > Martian Manhunter

If MM is hit by any of these he'll feel it. Ooooohhh... Brimstone!!! Scary!!!! Man he's just a big flying Human Torch from the land of Job-pokolips. Any Superman level character would own Brimstone oh so hard.

I think now I'm down to 5 posts. I only posted 3 times on the following page. This is my 4th post.

Okay now for my plan

I agree with what SHV said as Our prpe so I'll stick with that.

Gladiator uses his hypervision which can see through the densest of objects and even as far as diffrent galaxies to find the team aswell
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9954/hypervision4bn.jpg
my team takes to the skies and suprise attack the other team who have are defenselss since they did not havre any time to mount a defense against my team because they were preoccupied with the llusion
during the suprise attack Orion blasts Hyperion wtih a full power blast from the astor force which destroys the armor and stuns Hyperion who is down and out for a bit.
and thats nall the time Orion needs to keep blasting hyperion with the astro force untill Hyperion is no more.
heres a scans that shows the devestating power of the astro force.
It shows Orion taking out a fleet of space ships wth it.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/jkfw-05-16.jpg

During Glads part of the Suprise attack he zooms toward Quasar and blasts him with full powe rheat vision which destroys Quaars armor contruct and kncoks him down by the time Quasar gets up Gladiator is already ther punding on him until quasar is finshed.
Heres and example of the power of Glads heat vision
it shows glads matching eybeam,s with tyrant for a bit.
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3082205rc.jpg

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
All right!!! If you keep wasting your posts on meaningless one like this I'll have this tourney won in no time.

MM cannot interfere with Quasar making his bubbles. Again telepathy is not effective against Quasar. Unless it's telepathy doused with magic, then it might work. Glads will have a hard time breaking the second bubble. Glads will be stuck in there until Quasar lets him out.

Unless Glads is more powerful than all those heroes pounding on that bubble of his, or if Glads is as powerful as Thanos, their's no way he's breaking that bubble.

I think you misunderstood me DL. What I said was if KH blasts MM with his Flash Vision, he will [B]relive his fear of fire on a first hand basis. Only thing it'll be with a lot more pain, and possibly his own death. He may not have that fear anymore, but I doubt he's invulnerable to it. Is MM immune against Superman's heat vision? I mean if he were to blast MM, he'd certainly feel it or possibly be killed by it if Superman really meant it. And guess what... This version of Hyperion would have no reservations about killing. And MM will certainly feel his Flash vision since it will be filled with Hyperion's malicious intent to kill. πŸ™‚

That's the Squadron Supreme version of Hyperion. Not the King Hyperion version I have.

This is the power of King Hyperion:

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0622005puardcp211ou.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0622005puardcp225el.jpg

That's Holocaust there. He practically sniffed him up.

Owning Mags and his Brotherhood:

http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p192eu.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p200mb.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p211sl.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p227tb.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles39p239jg.jpg

Holding his own against 2 Hyperions at the same time:

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp02039vf.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp041ho.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp056hm.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp064ty.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp074va.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp083te.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp097wj.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp109hg.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp111fz.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp127ww.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp133xo.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles0652005puardcp158tv.jpg

He was doing fine against two Superman level characters. Each of these Hyperions would give Glads a good hard fight. King Hyperion was holding his own against both of them.

Here's how I see it.

Majestic = Superman = Hyperion

Laser Vision = Heat Vision = Flash Vision > Martian Manhunter

If MM is hit by any of these he'll feel it. Ooooohhh... Brimstone!!! Scary!!!! Man he's just a big flying Human Torch from the land of Job-pokolips. Any Superman level character would own Brimstone oh so hard.

I think now I'm down to 5 posts. I only posted 3 times on the following page. This is my 4th post. [/B]

now in my opinion regular Hyperion isn't superman/glads level first off in the scans I showed Glads defated Hyperion pretty easilly.
secondly I beleive in an Avenger issue during Kurt Busieks run on the title Wonder Man summoned by Scralet witch from the dead was enough to take on Hyperion.

and Wonder Man < Superman
so in my opinion Glads is very close to King Hyperion.
and again if you look at my last post MM or Glads won't be dealing with Hyperion .
He'd be facing orion he has shown to be better than Superman on many occassions

Orion stalemated a sun dipped Superman who took out the JLA and broke throgh GL's (Kyle) constructs.

and once Orion defeated a monster that superman could withstand as shown in these scans.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-13.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-15.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-05.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-06.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-10.jpg

and heres Orion injuring a beast that the entire JLA couldn't find a way to harm.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02308.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02312.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02313.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02314.jpg

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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Warlock still has 5 posts left.

So your right....

Originally posted by Devil Lance
except Martian Manhunter isn't weak to heat anymore he's invulnerable to it now so your point doesn't mattter.

also if your actually rea dmy post completely that was mm before he lost his fear of frire.
even if he was vunnerable to fire he could always just do this.
http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00236ny.jpg
but since he isn't vunerable to fire your point is mute

now in my opinion regular Hyperion isn't superman/glads level first off in the scans I showed Glads defated Hyperion pretty easilly.
secondly I beleive in an Avenger issue during Kurt Busieks run on the title Wonder Man summoned by Scralet witch from the dead was enough to take on Hyperion.


First off all he could turn intangible and not be hit by Hyperion's Flash Vision. But what would stop Hyperion from grabbing him while he's intangible and rip his head off? He pulled Kitty behind him when she was intangible. See:

http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exilesv103816rougher8kn.jpg

Who's to say Hyperion couldn't do the same to MM only thing using his fists? Also who's to say Hyperion is not in the same league as Glads and Supes? You posted scans of Gladiator battling the SQUADRON SUPREME VERSION HYPERION, not the exiles version. My memory seems to be fuzzy, but I remember Hyperion owning Wonder Man. Easily. Knocking him through a planet/asteroid, then putting Wonder Man through the sun. Let me refresh your memory:

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion13uf0la.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion31li3fj.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion49jc4zc.jpg

Try to get the facts straight DL.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
and Wonder Man < Superman

Your right. Let me add to that for you.

Superman = Gladiator = Hyperion > Wonder Man

Add the fact King Hyperion is wearing Quantum Armor and is wielding a Quantum Sword and Shield. Giving a Superman level character added durability and powerful offensive weapons isn't good for your team.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
so in my opinion Glads is very close to King Hyperion.
and again if you look at my last post MM or Glads won't be dealing with Hyperion .
He'd be facing orion he has shown to be better than Superman on many occassions

Orion stalemated a sun dipped Superman who took out the JLA and broke throgh GL's (Kyle) constructs.

and once Orion defeated a monster that superman could withstand as shown in these scans.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-13.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-15.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-05.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-06.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-10.jpg

and heres Orion injuring a beast that the entire JLA couldn't find a way to harm.

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02308.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02312.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02313.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02314.jpg

Your right about Glads being close to King Hyperion's powers. But Hyperion is wielding Quantum weapons and is sporting a powerful Quantum Armor. The Quantum sword will give Hyperion a nice reach advantage. The Quantum shield will be used as a deflection tool against the many energy blasts that will be coming from Orion or Gladiator's heat vision.

Those first set of scans, the one that shows Orion fighting that giant monster. It looks to me like it took both of them to beat that monster. What's that supposed to prove?

That second set of scans. The one Orion blasts that big sea monster. What happened after that. It looked like Orion was on the receiving end of an energy blast there. Out of the JLA that were there, that tried to hurt that monster, was Superman there? I'm only asking because if Superman wasn't there, then how could you say that the entire JLA was there. Is Superman was there, and actually tried to hurt that monster, then more power to you. If he wasn't there, what's to say a Superman level character couldn't do the same thing.

King Hyperion is a monster. Just ask Mimic here:

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now Oripon can do one of two things blast Quasar with the astor force an dhope it hits him or magnetically hold him in place by using the metal in Quasars bands .
as he did to this metal creature
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums.../Orion09p16.jpg

πŸ˜† I'm sorry... That's pretty funny. Magnetically holding Quasar in place... πŸ˜† Man what are you smoking. Quasar is the Master of Electromagnetic energy. He's like a super Magneto of sorts. Only thing his energy absorption powers are incredible. Even greater than Surfer's.

See:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3265qp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3291nq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3352jq.jpg

That's Quasar Absorbing the Ego Spores when Surfer failed to do so.

Orion's energy blast is similar to the power cosmic or cosmic energy. Any and all blasts will be absorbed and directed back towards Orion. Just like he did to Surfer here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar050375su.jpg

And to Kismet(Warlock genetic twin sister with the same powers as Him) here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vskismet.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vskismet2.jpg

Also if you notice in those scans with Kismet, Quasar also mentions that the Q-bands sensed her incoming energy blasts. Orion's energy blasts will be no different. Quasar will sense those coming in and use his own energy blasts to take Orion out.

Here's another strategy. A case of BFR but via Quasar's powers. Should be legal. will work against either Glads or MM. Whichever character feels like spending the rest of their days in the Quantum zone. Again double bubble theory. One quick instant bubble to immobilize either opponent, then Quasar can take a second or two to concentrate on forming a stronger bubble. Go back to my other posts for reference on how strong his bubbles are. Now neatly encased into his Quantum bubbles, he flys out of earth's atmosphere dragging along his neatly wrapped foe, to avoid the devastating side effects of using his teleportation powers within earth's atmosphere, and teleports either character into the Quantum Zone for them to spend the rest of their lives out in isolation. Just like his foe here:

http://img130.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img130&image=vspresence1.jpg
http://img106.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img106&image=vspresence2.jpg

Really if this battle becomes a handicapped match, I'll still be fine.

Quasar taking energy blasts from the Jack of Hearts which was completely ineffective against Quasar.

http://img66.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img66&image=vsjack.jpg

Here's Quasar multitasking and holding his own against the Phoenix Rachel Summers and Mordred the Mystic. Mordred is powerful enough to give Dr. Strange a run for his money.

http://img121.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img121&image=vsphoenix1.jpg
http://img110.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img110&image=vsphoenix2.jpg
http://img131.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img131&image=vsphoenix3.jpg

If Quasar could redirect Rachel Summers powerful psionic energy, I don't see why Quasar couldn't multitask and do the same against Orion and MM.

Man... Even handicapped you guys are still gonna get owned.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
First off all he could turn intangible and not be hit by Hyperion's Flash Vision. But what would stop Hyperion from grabbing him while he's intangible and rip his head off? He pulled Kitty behind him when she was intangible. See:

http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exilesv103816rougher8kn.jpg

Who's to say Hyperion couldn't do the same to MM only thing using his fists? Also who's to say Hyperion is not in the same league as Glads and Supes? You posted scans of Gladiator battling the [B]SQUADRON SUPREME VERSION HYPERION, not the exiles version. My memory seems to be fuzzy, but I remember Hyperion owning Wonder Man. Easily. Knocking him through a planet/asteroid, then putting Wonder Man through the sun. Let me refresh your memory:

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion13uf0la.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion31li3fj.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion49jc4zc.jpg

Try to get the facts straight DL.

Your right. Let me add to that for you.

Superman = Gladiator = Hyperion > Wonder Man

Add the fact King Hyperion is wearing Quantum Armor and is wielding a Quantum Sword and Shield. Giving a Superman level character added durability and powerful offensive weapons isn't good for your team.

Your right about Glads being close to King Hyperion's powers. But Hyperion is wielding Quantum weapons and is sporting a powerful Quantum Armor. The Quantum sword will give Hyperion a nice reach advantage. The Quantum shield will be used as a deflection tool against the many energy blasts that will be coming from Orion or Gladiator's heat vision.

Those first set of scans, the one that shows Orion fighting that giant monster. It looks to me like it took both of them to beat that monster. What's that supposed to prove?

That second set of scans. The one Orion blasts that big sea monster. What happened after that. It looked like Orion was on the receiving end of an energy blast there. Out of the JLA that were there, that tried to hurt that monster, was Superman there? I'm only asking because if Superman wasn't there, then how could you say that the entire JLA was there. Is Superman was there, and actually tried to hurt that monster, then more power to you. If he wasn't there, what's to say a Superman level character couldn't do the same thing.

King Hyperion is a monster. Just ask Mimic here:

πŸ˜† I'm sorry... That's pretty funny. Magnetically holding Quasar in place... πŸ˜† Man what are you smoking. Quasar is the Master of Electromagnetic energy. He's like a super Magneto of sorts. Only thing his energy absorption powers are incredible. Even greater than Surfer's.

See:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3265qp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3291nq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3352jq.jpg

That's Quasar Absorbing the Ego Spores when Surfer failed to do so.

Orion's energy blast is similar to the power cosmic or cosmic energy. Any and all blasts will be absorbed and directed back towards Orion. Just like he did to Surfer here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar050375su.jpg

And to Kismet(Warlock genetic twin sister with the same powers as Him) here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vskismet.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vskismet2.jpg

Also if you notice in those scans with Kismet, Quasar also mentions that the Q-bands sensed her incoming energy blasts. Orion's energy blasts will be no different. Quasar will sense those coming in and use his own energy blasts to take Orion out.

Here's another strategy. A case of BFR but via Quasar's powers. Should be legal. will work against either Glads or MM. Whichever character feels like spending the rest of their days in the Quantum zone. Again double bubble theory. One quick instant bubble to immobilize either opponent, then Quasar can take a second or two to concentrate on forming a stronger bubble. Go back to my other posts for reference on how strong his bubbles are. Now neatly encased into his Quantum bubbles, he flys out of earth's atmosphere dragging along his neatly wrapped foe, to avoid the devastating side effects of using his teleportation powers within earth's atmosphere, and teleports either character into the Quantum Zone for them to spend the rest of their lives out in isolation. Just like his foe here:

http://img130.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img130&image=vspresence1.jpg
http://img106.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img106&image=vspresence2.jpg

Really if this battle becomes a handicapped match, I'll still be fine.

Quasar taking energy blasts from the Jack of Hearts which was completely ineffective against Quasar.

http://img66.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img66&image=vsjack.jpg

Here's Quasar multitasking and holding his own against the Phoenix Rachel Summers and Mordred the Mystic. Mordred is powerful enough to give Dr. Strange a run for his money.

http://img121.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img121&image=vsphoenix1.jpg
http://img110.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img110&image=vsphoenix2.jpg
http://img131.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img131&image=vsphoenix3.jpg

If Quasar could redirect Rachel Summers powerful psionic energy, I don't see why Quasar couldn't multitask and do the same against Orion and MM.

Man... Even handicapped you guys are still gonna get owned. [/B]

Even handicapped you still get owned πŸ™„
first of stop being a jackass
secondly please get this through your head Martian Manhunter is invulnerable to fire. Your Heat vision won't hurt him and anyways if your playing this as a handicap Hyperion would be fighting Orion and Martian Manhunter.
and since Orion ha stalemated a sundpped superman i say he's equal to King Hyperion
who really in my mind isn't that impressive
I mean he got knocled out by mimic only hitting him at half the speed of light andw was killed by Gambit and knocked down by a punch from hulk.
Neither Orion or hulk would be beaten those characters.
So I sya Orion= King Hyperion especially if he uses his shileds.
and adding Martian Manhunter gives Orion the edge
Now on to yoour points about quasar seems like someone didn't read the rules
11. BFR (Battlefield Removal) is acceptable if it is by normal means, and doesn’t include teleportation to remove your opponents or dimension-traveling, or similarly banned things. Normal teleportation is fine though.
there goes your bfr
so now its Gladiator Martian Manhunter and Orion Vs Quasar πŸ˜†

an d as you see in these scans Gladuiator has given quasar major trouble even though Quasar got an assist from Black Bolt
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3484/vsquasar016oj.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1502/vsquasar027md.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/886/vsquasar037js.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1286/vsquasar049mi.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4453/vsquasar059kd.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6914/vsquasar061cb.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8406/vsquasar078qu.jpg
now you see if Blackbot or lockjaw didn't come and help Quasar he would have been destroyed and now he's all alone and can't possiubly handle the combined power of Martian Manhunter, Gladiator, and Orion.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Okay now for my plan

I agree with what SHV said as Our prpe so I'll stick with that.

Now once they get to tokyo MM scans for the minds of the othe rteam annd once he finds them he implants an Illsuion in their head as hed did here to this powerful telepath one of the white martians.
http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla058106xs.jpg

Good luck trying to get through Quasar's mental defense and Hyperion's will. This version of Hyperion called himself an alien, but what he really is an Eternal. A really powerful Eternal. Eternals tend to have powerful minds and defense against telepathy. It also took Manchester Black like 5 years to control Superman who seemed to be a more powerful telepath than even Jonn. But yet a White martian totally owned Superman. Quite a contradictory in my opinion.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
while MM scans for the minds of the other team Gladiator uses his hypervision which can see through the densest of objects and even as far as diffrent galaxies to find the team aswell
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9954/hypervision4bn.jpg
once Martian Manhunter cretaes the illusion my team takes to the skies and suprise attack the other team who have are defenselss since they did not havre any time to mount a defense against my team because they were preoccupied with the llusion
during the suprise attack Orion blasts Hyperion wtih a full power blast from the astor force which destroys the armor and stuns Hyperion who is down and out for a bit.
and thats nall the time Orion needs to keep blasting hyperion with the astro force untill Hyperion is no more.
heres a scans that shows the devestating power of the astro force.
It shows Orion taking out a fleet of space ships wth it.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/jkfw-05-16.jpg

Unless they are illusions that can affect the five senses like say Sersi, then MM's illusions will do two things to Hyperion and Quasar. Jack shit . Or if his illusions were able to hurt Quasar then that's sort of like making duplicates of yourself and is illegal for this tourney.

Even if the illusions are there, Quasar could track them via energy signature like so:

http://img64.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img64&image=vsimperal3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150185fi.jpg

You also forgot that Orion is basically one big messy energy signature for Quasar to track. It will be very hard for him to get the drop on Orion. Hell if, Gladiator shoots his heat vision or whatever it is he has, he'll be lit up like a Christmas tree as well with a nice bullseye on his back.

You also seem to think that Quasar's constructs are really easy to break. You have to keep in mind, Quasar usually pulls out constructs with mere thoughts or seconds in battle. Imagine if he had minutes instead of mere seconds to concentrate on one. That's exactly what I did during my prep time. Look again at how strong the bubbles are. You seem to need your memory refreshed every now and then:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field.jpg

and here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar032126xd.jpg

Those constructs were literally raised with nothing but a mere thought and it was done quickly enough to prevent the Infinity Watch as well as him and his group from being harmed.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
During Glads part of the Suprise attack he zooms toward Quasar and blasts him with full powe rheat vision which destroys Quaars armor contruct and kncoks him down by the time Quasar gets up Gladiator is already ther punding on him until quasar is finshed.
Heres and example of the power of Glads heat vision
it shows glads matching eybeam,s with tyrant for a bit.
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurferv3082205rc.jpg

Your still assuming Glads will get the drop on Quasar and Hyperion. Again Quasar has shields up. Heat Vision will do squat against Quasar and Hyperion's armor. Seeing as Quasar's armors have been through suns:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/nova6.jpg

Easily withstanding blasts from the Jack Of Hearts:

http://img66.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img66&image=vsjack.jpg

And my personal favorite, getting blasted by Silver Surfer who's actually trying to win due to the stake of Universe:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar050375su.jpg

You could also scroll up and see how the combined forces of the Avengers, X-Men, and FF4 weren't able to crack his bubble. Even Thor's Mjolnir bounced off his bubble.

What the hell is Glads heat vision gonna do to Quasar's Quantum Armors?

That scan with Tyrant and Glads. King Hyperion could have done the same thing. Heck, any Superman type character could have done the same thing. But the end result would have still been the same. Pure Ownage by at the hands of Tyrant.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
After creating the illusions MM turns invisble and intagible and does what SHV said he would to do to ronan

You don't know how lucky you are that I can't argue for Ronan. All I have is this:


Accel wrote on Jul 2nd, 2006 08:31 AM:
With prep, Ronan can analyze his opponent's powers and enhance himself to adapt to those powers. He should be able to analyze MM's telepathic abilities and enhance himself to at least be resistant to it. He can also create a barrier of absolute zero around MM that would probably contain him long enough for a fire attack, but I'm not sure if phasing would be useful or not to escape from the barrier.

Ronan can also transmute matter and create an indestructible cone around his victim, which would be useful against someone like Gladiator or Orion.

Judges can keep in mind Ronan is in the fight. The fight may seem extremely one sided now due to me kicking the opposition's teeth in with just two characters, there is a 3rd character. If I had that access to that character, this would literally be a curbstomp of sorts. But I don't. But you must also acknowledge that he is there.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Even handicapped you still get owned πŸ™„
first of stop being a jackass
secondly please get this through your head Martian Manhunter is invulnerable to fire. Your Heat vision won't hurt him and anyways if your playing this as a handicap Hyperion would be fighting Orion and Martian Manhunter.
and since Orion ha stalemated a sundpped superman i say he's equal to King Hyperion
who really in my mind isn't that impressive
I mean he got knocled out by mimic only hitting him at half the speed of light andw was killed by Gambit and knocked down by a punch from hulk.
Neither Orion or hulk would be beaten those characters.
So I sya Orion= King Hyperion especially if he uses his shileds.
and adding Martian Manhunter gives Orion the edge
Now on to yoour points about quasar seems like someone didn't read the rules
11. BFR (Battlefield Removal) is acceptable if it is by normal means, and doesn’t include teleportation to remove your opponents or dimension-traveling, or similarly banned things. Normal teleportation is fine though.
there goes your bfr
so now its Gladiator Martian Manhunter and Orion Vs Quasar πŸ˜†

As for Hyperion being killed by Gambit, that part is somewhat true. You forgot to mention Blink teleported Hyperion's own Flash Vision back to him which immobolized him long enough for Gambit to get in a kamakaze attack. No biggie though. Hyperion did heal from that encounter come back from that encounter shown here:

http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exilesv163132ic.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles045page11image00019qb.jpg

This further proves my point that Hyperion is an Eternal. If you don't take out every single Molecule or Atom of an Eternal, he/she will come back and bite you in the arse.

You were saying something about Mimic?

http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles045page10image00012aa.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles045page11image00019qb.jpg

I also remember that Hulk didn't survive his encounter with King Hyperion. I mean, Flash Vision literally killed the Hulk. Don't forget he also tore off Hulk's arm and forced Hulk to eat it.

Again DL, try to get the facts straight.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
an d as you see in these scans Gladuiator has given quasar major trouble even though Quasar got an assist from Black Bolt
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3484/vsquasar016oj.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1502/vsquasar027md.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/886/vsquasar037js.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1286/vsquasar049mi.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4453/vsquasar059kd.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6914/vsquasar061cb.jpg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8406/vsquasar078qu.jpg
now you see if Blackbot or lockjaw didn't come and help Quasar he would have been destroyed and now he's all alone and can't possiubly handle the combined power of Martian Manhunter, Gladiator, and Orion.

Ahhh... Bringing up past encounters. That's good and all, but you seem to forget that Quasar has Ronan and King Hyperion backing him here. Your also assuming that if BB didn't come to help Quasar, he would have been in serious trouble.

Please, Quasar has been in tighter spots than that before.

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Originally posted by grey fox
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well he could make it seem like they were real in the mind of Quasar and Ronan and Hyperion. I mean a white martian who is of less skill and telepathic power than MM used telepathy to make him weak to kryptonite and we all know how telepathically resistant he is.plus he literally devolved Despero with his telepathy into a fetus and Despero has annihilated the JLA before with telepathy. plus he does have martian vision which he can block Hyperion's vision with.
J'ohn using his heat vision
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.c...607/dc/mm21.jpg

and if by chance he got hit. he would regenerate right back like this.
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jonn0018dh.jpg

plus you also forget that Orion and Gladiator are there so and about the confidence thing MM would easily be able to manipulate Glads mind in order to prevent any loss in confidence. or make it seem like the Shiar empire was in danger and give him great motivation to go all out.

The first link doesn't work man

Oh here it is but this doesn't count for one of my posts does it?
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/images/covers/000607/dc/mm21.jpg

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Oh here it is but this doesn't count for one of my posts does it?
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/images/covers/000607/dc/mm21.jpg

No, why would it??

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Oh here it is but this doesn't count for one of my posts does it?
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/images/covers/000607/dc/mm21.jpg

Unfortunatly it does.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Unfortunatly it does.

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No not really. That's for the judges/Digi to decide. Certainly a little edited post like that shouldn't count. If it does, then that is really cheap. The whole point of the nine post limit was to limit the reading and not stretch it out too long. I doubt they are going to care about that one. πŸ˜‰

You are an idiot again get this through your obviously damged skull they do not know who they are facing before the match so Ronan can't adapt to martian Manhunter .

Secondly your scan shows Hyperion telling mimic that he beat galactus isn't that a little above the power levels for this tourney ?

annd about the hulk thing do your really think any members of my team would have a hard time doing that.
any oof the three members on my team would own hulk.

the only thing your showing me is that Hyoperion is slightly above superman/Gladiator types.
and in my opinion f it came down to it Orion and Martian Manhunter would beat him.

now on to the quasar scans as you can see when Gladiator started squeezing Quasar's arms he felt i immeaditely even with his auora.
and all of Quasars attempts to escape s where futile until Blackbolt came and distracte dgladiator.
and that only lasted for a bit if it wasn't for lockjaw Quasar wouuld have been toast .