Proof that Jesus exists not existed

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Proof that Jesus exists not existed

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Just another link to peruse.

According to the Bible Jesus is God, the Creator of all life, space, time, matter, things visible and things invisible (gravity, chemicals, and other properties that we cannot see). The insects, animal kingdom, complex human anatomy, world, universe and everything that you see is proof of Jesus existence because He created it all.

Scripture references:

Psalm 19:1-2
THE HEAVENS (universe) declare the glory of God; and the firmament (atmosphere around earth) shows and proclaims His handiwork. Day after day pours forth speech, and night after night shows forth knowledge.

Romans 1:19-20
For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them. For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification],

Colossians 1:16-17
For by Him (Jesus Christ) all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.

Ephesians 3:9
and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ;

Hebrews 1:2-3
has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself[purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

John 7:7
The world cannot hate you, but it hates Me because I testify of it that its works are evil.

John 15:18-25
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates Me hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father. But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.

Many Infallible (or Unmistakable) Proofs

Acts 1:3
What are these infallible, unmistakable proofs that Jesus used to present Himself alive after His suffering. Well, lets see:

1. The Jews’ custom prevented them from leaving the bodies of those Jews who had been crucified on the cross on the Sabbath because that particular Sabbath was a high day. It was a very important Sabbath because they were preparing to observe the Passover on or during that Sabbath. So the Jews requested for Pilate to authorize his soldiers to break the legs of those Jews who had been crucified so that they would die faster. Then their bodies could be taken away so as not to violate the Sabbath. So the soldiers broke the legs of the other two who had been crucified along with Jesus. But when they came to Jesus they saw that He was already dead--John 19:30-37.
2. Pilate gave Joseph of Arimathea permission to remove Jesus’ (dead) body--not a swooning corpse--from the cross. So Joseph and others bound or wrapped Jesus in strips of linen with the spices, and placed Him in his very own, brand new tomb--Matthew 27:57-61; John 19:38-42
3. Pilate, the Roman governor (Matthew 27:2) granted the request of the chief priests and Pharisees, and commanded the tomb where Jesus’ body had been placed to be made as secure as as they knew how. The tomb was made secure with a seal, which was an official stamp impression on clay. The clay with the seal was placed across the tomb stone (or door) as a tamper device. The seal could not be broken except with legal authorization. There were hefty penalties for breaking a seal without authorization. In addition to the seal that was used to secure the stone covering the tomb, guards were assigned to keep watch over it as well (Matthew 27:62-66, 28:1-15).
4. Jesus appears to the disciples who were on their way to Emmaus--Luke 24:13-35
5. The linen cloths lying by themselves--John 20:5-6
6. The handkerchief that had been around Jesus’ head folded together in a place by itself--John 20:7
7. Jesus was seen first by Mary Magdalene--John 20:14-18
8. Jesus appeared to His disciples--Luke 24:36-53; John 20:19
9. Jesus showed His disciples His hands (wrists), and His side where He had been pierced----Luke 24:36-53; John 20:20
10. Jesus appears to His disciples again after eight days--John 20:26-28
11. Jesus showed Himself to His disciples again (this is the third time) on the shore of the Sea of Galilee (Tiberias)--John 21:1-14
12. Jesus was seen for many days by His apostles--Acts 13:31
13. Jesus is seen by James (His half-brother), by over 500 (Christian) brethren at once, by Paul the apostle, and by Ananias, one of His disciples--1 Corinthians 15:4-8; Acts 9:1-18

Glory to God Jesus is alive! (Matthew 28:1-20; Mark 16:1-20; Luke 24:1-53; John 20:5-7, 14-20, 26-28, 21:1-14; Mark 16:19; Acts 1:3, 7:55, 9:3-6, 10-17, 13:31,18:9-10, 22:17-18, 23:11, 25:19; Romans 6:4, 9, 7:4, 8:11; 1 Corinthians 15:4-8, 12, 15; Galatians 1:1; Ephesians 1:20; Colossians 3:1; 2 Timothy 2:8; Hebrews 7:25, 12:2; 1 Peter 3:18, 22)

Acts 7:51-60
You stubborn and stiff-necked people, still heathen and uncircumcised in heart and ears, you are always actively resisting the Holy Spirit. As your forefathers [were], so you [are and so you do]!

Which of the prophets did your forefathers not persecute? And they slew those who proclaimed beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, Whom you now have betrayed and murdered--

You who received the Law as it was ordained and set in order and delivered by angels, and [yet] you did not obey it!

Now upon hearing these things, they [the Jews] were cut to the heart and infuriated, and they ground their teeth against [Stephen].

But he, full of the Holy Spirit and controlled by Him, gazed into heaven and saw the glory (the splendor and majesty) of God, and Jesus standing at God's right hand;

And he said, Look! I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing at God's right hand!

But they raised a great shout and put their hands over their ears and rushed together upon him.

Then they dragged him out of the city and began to stone him, and the witnesses placed their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul.

And while they were stoning Stephen, he prayed, Lord Jesus, receive and accept and welcome my spirit!

And falling on his knees, he cried out loudly, Lord, fix not this sin upon them [lay it not to their charge]! And when he had said this, he fell asleep [in death].

Another person who saw Jesus after His crucifixion and resurrection from the dead.

JesusIsAlive,

This is great! But I find many on this forum do not trust the scriptures as you and I do. The fact that the Apostle Paul said there were over 500 brethren at once who saw him and he said many were alive to that day when he wrote! This awsome fact gave people in the 1st. century the opportunity to question many eye witnesses who saw Jesus after He was crucified and buried! 💃

Acts 9:1-5

Then Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest

and asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.
As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from heaven. 4 Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?”
And he said, “Who are You, Lord?”
Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads.”

Paul the apostle's encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ after His crucifixion and resurrection from the dead.

This thread is scaring me..... 🙁

Can you supply ANY proof not in a religious text?
If A religious text is proof, then Mohammed IS the prophet, Buddha achieved enlightenment, Ra is the Sungod etc. etc. etc.
Or prove to me that the Bible is an infalliable document.

2 Timothy 3:7
always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

John 20:19-31
19 Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, “Peace be with you.” 20 When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord.
21 So Jesus said to them again, “Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
Seeing and Believing

24 Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”
So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”
26 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” 27 Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.”
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
That You May Believe

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Originally posted by The Omega
Can you supply ANY proof not in a religious text?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmljaj5stA

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmljaj5stA
xmark.........you always amaze me with your miracles.....I will worship you now................lol 😎

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmljaj5stA

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.

Galatians 6:7

Is god going to make US dance around naked and laugh at us????. 😱......I'd be ok with that.....I guess I'd be the better person then...

With all due respect Omega. You are not the Omega. Jesus Christ is the Omega. I know it is just a Forum name that you've adopted so don't get offended.

Revelation 1:8, 17-18
I (Jesus Christ) am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

And when I saw Him (Jesus Christ), I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

Look, omega the simple fact of the matter is that God, Jesus the Christ, the Holy Spirit, the holy angels, Heaven, Hell, satan, demons exist. There is perhaps one good way to prove this to you, but not in this life until the blindness is removed from your mind. satan (the god, little g) of this world has blinded the minds of all of humanity to the Truth. He does not want you to know God and have a relationship with Him
through Jesus Christ. satan wants to keep you oblivious to the Truth until you die, then your eyes will be opened, when you lift them up in hell. But there is good news you don't have to go to hell.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4
But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

Acts 26:18
to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.’

1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

1 Corinthians 1:21
For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

1 Corinthians 1:23
but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness,

1 Corinthians 1:25
Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”;

I have given you tangible proof of Jesus existence but yet you doubt it and call it religious text. Is the matter all around you religious text? The air that you breathe, the sun that warms you, the water that you drink are all proof of Jesus existence outside of the Bible. I could go on about the complexity of nature, the human cell, the human body, but it would not suffice for you. Incredible. You believe that all matter and life is the result of chance, random, occurence instead of the deliberate, will of God. Unbelieveable. All of the intracies in the human body alone should persuade you of Jesus (God's) existence but yet you remain skeptical, grasping for more, more, more proof. You need more, more, more evidence. Unprecedented. Just look around: you have more proof at your fingertips and within earshot of you than you need or could ever ask for, but it is still not enough. For you seeing is believing. However, you see and yet you still do not believe. I am almost speechless. I guess you will have to wait until your life on this planet expires, when its too late, then you will believe. You will stand before God in great shame, embarrassment, and regret that you didn't believe when all it requires is child-like faith.

Originally posted by debbiejo
xmark.........you always amaze me with your miracles.....I will worship you now................lol 😎
Do not worship me, I am but a servant... worship only the true god...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]With all due respect Omega. You are not the Omega. Jesus Christ is the Omega. I know it is just a Forum name that you've adopted so don't get offended.

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Christ is Alpha and Omega....Beginning and End...First and Last...

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
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I love it when people are gently put in proper placement.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do not worship me, I am but a servant... worship only the true god...

I heard god is interactive............If you reach out and touch him he plays with you.........look! http://www.funwithspot.com/house.asp?locale=US .. 😱

Originally posted by Justbyfaith
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Christ is Alpha and Omega....Beginning and End...First and Last...

Silly people......so are all the other gods.......

I hear if you scratch him just right his leg kicks reflexively.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
With all due respect Omega. You are not the Omega. Jesus Christ is the Omega. I know it is just a Forum name that you've adopted so don't get offended.
Just look around: you have more proof at your fingertips and within earshot of you than you need or could ever ask for, but it is still not enough. For you seeing is believing. However, you see and yet you still do not believe.

Omega has probably seen more prove of the existance of God than most people on these threads. I dis-agree JesusIsAlive that it is not believing. The Apostle Paul calls it "suppress the truth". It is a choice to silence God and to turn away from Him.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp (we descended from apes?)

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0020/0020_01.asp (am I a fool?)

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1021/1021_01.asp (what?)

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1002/1002_01.asp (I do know it all)