Crazy Anti-Gay Church woman

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Crazy Anti-Gay Church woman

http://www.break.com/index/crazyfox20.html

Seen it. Most of the OTF did. 😛

Crazy, anti-gay.

Homosexuality is a sin according to God's Word (the Bible). Agreeing with God about this doesn't make anyone anti-gay. God is against homosexuality--the practice or lifestyle--but He loves the person and wants that person to come out of that abominable sin. I hate homosexuality too, but I DO NOT hate the person, neither does God. Can you see the distinction. It is like hating someone's drug use but loving the addict and trying to help them overcome their addiction. Well God hates homosexuality, bisexuality, bestiality, and lesbianism--the practice, but He loves the person.

Yeah it does. If God is anti-gay (against gays, as you say he is), and you agree with him, then you are anti-gay.

We all know the distinction, but it's really not all that relevant or useful here. You're not going to try to defend this woman, are you?

Originally posted by Trickster
Yeah it does. If God is anti-gay (against gays, as you say he is), and you agree with him, then you are anti-gay.

We all know the distinction, but it's really not all that relevant or useful here. You're not going to try to defend this woman, are you?

Trickster,

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I never said that God was anti-gay, meaning against gay people. If it is one thing that displeases me it is having my words misquoted. God is not anti-gay (i.e. God does not hate gay people). God the Father loves gay people. Here is what I said sir.

God is against homosexuality--the practice or lifestyle --but He loves the person and wants that person to come out of that abominable sin. God loves the gay person...God loves the gay person...God loves the gay person. But God hates the gay lifestyle. I did not say God hated gays because God loves gays--He just hates the homosexual lifestyle. Christians love gay people and God the Father loves gay people. But we do not love the gay lifestyle or practice.

🙁 Can you see this Trickster?

Love the sinner, hate the sin is a rather arrogant and condescending thing to say.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Trickster,

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I never said that God was anti-gay, meaning against gay people. If it is one thing that displeases me it is having my words misquoted. God is not anti-gay (i.e. God does not hate gay people). God the Father loves gay people. Here is what I said sir.

God is [B]against homosexuality--the practice or lifestyle --but He loves the person and wants that person to come out of that abominable sin. God loves the gay person...God loves the gay person...God loves the gay person. But God hates the gay lifestyle. I did not say God hated gays because God loves gays--He just hates the homosexual lifestyle. Christians love gay people and God the Father loves gay people. But we do not love the gay lifestyle or practice.

🙁 Can you see this Trickster? [/B]


Yes, loves homosexuals so much that he'll condemn them to eternal damnation?

With all due respect Storm, I did not say it, God the Father did so there is no reason to get offended. I have a son who I love dearly; however, I do not love everything that he does. I am not perfect neither is my son, but I still love him. In a purely christian way I love you but that doesn't mean that I agree with you on every thing or that I love the things that you write on this post. So I can love the person but not their actions, especially if their actions are not kind.

Can you see this Storm?

That lady is crazy, and an idiot. 😄

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
With all due respect Storm, I did not say it, God the Father did so there is no reason to get offended. I have a son who I love dearly; however, I do not love everything that he does. I am not perfect neither is my son, but I still love him. In a purely christian way I love you but that doesn't mean that I agree with you on every thing or that I love the things that you write on this post. So I can love the person but not their actions, especially if their actions are not kind.

Can you see this Storm?


Do you know what the words 'arrogant' and 'condescending' mean?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
With all due respect Storm, I did not say it, God the Father did so there is no reason to get offended. I have a son who I love dearly; however, I do not love everything that he does. I am not perfect neither is my son, but I still love him. In a purely christian way I love you but that doesn't mean that I agree with you on every thing or that I love the things that you write on this post. So I can love the person but not their actions, especially if their actions are not kind.

Can you see this Storm?


Offended? What am I writing is not a sin. Sin might be homosexuality, atheism, belonging to a religion other than Christianity, supporting abortion rights, etc. Can you love someone as a person while also hating everything that makes that person who he or she is?

You had to repeat God loves the gay person three times?

I see exactly what you mean. I was questioning the relevance to the thread.

But either way, God is anti-homosexual. Just as I am anti-racist. It is not the specific person I am against, but rather what they espouse. In the same way, God is anti-gay.

Who was your original statement directed at?

Eis,

God is the one who made all of the rules. Let me digress, every society has laws that must be abided by correct? Let use murder as a for instance to illustrate my point. If person a commits first-degree murder against person b what do you think will happen to that person? Right, that person will be arrested and put into jail. Then ultimately that person will go to trial, be convicted, then sentenced to death or life in prison (provided he/she is not insane). Now, I said all that to say this that person's freedom was forfeited the moment that he/she committed murder against another person. The government of that society makes the laws (rules) and if those laws (rules) are broken that transgressor will be held accountable for their actions. Well God is the Supreme Law-giver. Many of our laws are based on God's laws. So just like the government of a society making and enforcing their laws (rules), God as the Supreme Law-giver must do the same. There is no difference.

Can you see this Eis?

Trickster,

I simply was responding to the original thread. But I am glad that you see what I was trying to convey.

Originally posted by Trickster
Yeah it does. If God is anti-gay (against gays, as you say he is), and you agree with him, then you are anti-gay.

We all know the distinction, but it's really not all that relevant or useful here. You're not going to try to defend this woman, are you?

There is a difference I think he's trying to establish.

I don't like homosexuality, but I am friends with a large number of bisexual/homosexual people.

Storm,

Yes, you can--and should--love the person without loving their actions. For instance, let's say that you are in a physically abusive relationship with a guy (this is purely hypothetical I am not making any accusations). Let's also presuppose that you love this guy because when you first met him he was your knight in shining armor who swept you off of your feet. However--again purely hypothetical--let's say that this guy starts physically abusing you but you love him so much because you been through so much with this guy. You can love the person but not love their actions (i.e. the physical abuse, infidelity, lying, etc.).

Can you see this Storm?

But I'm not sure exactly what your point was. God does make it clear that he is anti-gay. The woman in the video is attacking the lifestyle and tolerance shown toward said gay lifestyle in the US.

Although I am not saying that you (or any person) should remain in an abusive relationship for love sake. You should not. Again, hypothetical illustration.

Originally posted by Trickster
But I'm not sure exactly what your point was. God does make it clear that he is anti-gay. The woman in the video is attacking the lifestyle and tolerance shown toward said gay lifestyle in the US.

Then that one person should be held accountable for her actions. That does not reflect on God. Just because some ignorant person chooses to attack a gay person that does not mean that God approved of that behavior. God does not approve of Christians taking a physically violent approach or stance against homosexuality. I am opposed to homosexuality but I will not go to blows over it. Like my Heavenly Father, I love the gay person but I hate the gay lifestyle or practice and will speak out against it.

Can you see this Trickster, sir?

But she doesn't attack gay people physically. And why, if she believes God does approve of her action, can you say that God doesn't? You may not believe it, but how can you prove to be any more right than she is?

Anyway, in effect, you are condemning her, which is good.