Crazy Anti-Gay Church woman

Originally posted by Nellinator
I would say it on hope that perhaps it would bring some credibility to my argument. However, I am not going to claim to be an expert. I will admit I have not dealt with that many homosexuals in my profession, but that has been my experience in three years of practice. I also practice in a very conservative area which may confuse my patients as to their true identity and would believe other psychologists when their studies say otherwise than my experiences. As to trying to make myself important I would have to disagree because as far as I'm concerned psychology does not require a whole lot of education and are backup to Psychiatrists who do the hardest work, thereby making myself unimportant. Believe what you will.

You claim being Gay is a choice. I would appreciate your explanation on this.

I doubt you actually know what being GAY means...being gay does not mean you have sex with someone of the same gender...it means you want to. There are gay and bisexual VIRGINS. You don't choose to be a virgin, you don't choose who you like.

I predict your answer will be one of personal bias, supported by very little evidense. But i still challenge you to try and change my mind.

And you better try hard buddy, cuz I'm bisexual and I've been that way for as long as I can remember....try and convince me that my sexual desires were MY choice.

People can choose to be virgins, or be stuck as one.
Even if sexual desire is not your choice (which I still think it is, but that is not my point), gratifying this desire is. You can always choose not to have sex (or whatever funky stuff you are into) with men.

😆 This coming from the man praising heterosexuality's main purpose is bearing children.

😆 "or whatever funky stuff you are into" You must be real boring in bed.

Who says I don't like funky stuff?
And the main purpose is child bearing. Even your precious evolution beliefs would support that. The gratification of pleasure as a primary purpose is a cultural belief not a scientific one.

Originally posted by Nellinator
The gratification of pleasure as a primary purpose is a cultural belief not a scientific one.

How is satisfying sexual urges not a scientific belief?

It has nothing to do with the advancement of the species.

Originally posted by Nellinator
It has nothing to do with the advancement of the species.

So, do you breed everytime you have sex?

No, sex can be used for pleasure to be sure, however, pleasure does not advance the species. I am not condemning the use of sex for pleasure because sex would suck without it.

yeah......who'd want to do THAT!! 🙁

It would be the most bizarre thing in the world......"You want to do WHAT?? With my what??" 😂

Originally posted by Nellinator
No, sex can be used for pleasure to be sure, however, pleasure does not advance the species. I am not condemning the use of sex for pleasure because sex would suck without it.

If sex was not plesurable...correct...no one would do it. That would kill the species. So sexual plasure does clearlyt advance the species. it makes you want to have BABIES!

No. Pleasure makes you want to have sex. Wanting to have babies comes from love or selfishness. Either way they are seperate in the human race. This is a part of what makes us different from the animals.

HELLO. YOu are a fricking animal. Theree is nothing seperate. YOu are hard wired to want to have sex because the more sex you have...the more babies and the greater the chance of survival. Condoms are not natural. That puts an artificial baricase in front of what likely would have been a child.

The SEX and REPORDUCTION are the SAME.

We are not animals. We share many characteristics and functions with animals, but we possess a Spirit (soul) that seperates us from animals.

Also, sex and reproduction are not the same. In vitro does not involve sex. If they were the same sex would always cause reproduction which it does not. Having sex with a women in her follicular phase does not reproduce. It is sex and sex alone.

Originally posted by Nellinator
No. Pleasure makes you want to have sex. Wanting to have babies comes from love or selfishness. Either way they are seperate in the human race. This is a part of what makes us different from the animals.

Yet so many babies are the result of pleasure sex. I know plenty of people sit down and plan a family, but just as many leave it to chance, enjoy it, and accept a baby if it turns out that way.

But anyway, you categorise all sex as pleasure or reproduction. Not as clear cut as that, and you also forget the emotional aspect as well - it can be used as an expression of love, transcending mere pleasure/reproduction, which is an equally valid and equally important purpose as reproduction/pleasure for both homosexuals and heterosexuals alike.

Who says I don't like funky stuff?
And the main purpose is child bearing. Even your precious evolution beliefs would support that. The gratification of pleasure as a primary purpose is a cultural belief not a scientific one.

I would argue that pleasure derived from sexual intercourse is scientific. We have evolved (or if you wish been created) to enjoy the act, which encourages us to keep doing it, the by product of which would be reproduction. After all, we didn't evolve like other mammals where we have a season of "heat" where the mating urge is irresistible. Sex, for homo sapians, has developed to be attractive due to the enjoyment it can bring, and thus reproduction is encouraged through enjoyment of a pontetially reproductive act.