Omegas Vrs. Omaybees (Marvels Strongest Mutants go toe 2 toe)

Started by King KAM3 pages

I hate Marvel, bcause ever since that damn Vulcan everyone gives a damn about those mutants, mutants suck!!!!!!

Originally posted by Skeets
Ok so only because no one got around to giving Hyperstorm the title "Omega" he isn't ? well I'm calling him Omega as he fits all thats required to be called one.

And I'm calling myself a DOCTOR.... need an appoiontment?????

Dr. Mass Murda y, because I said so

Originally posted by King KAM
I hate Marvel, bcause ever since that damn Vulcan everyone gives a damn about those mutants, mutants suck!!!!!!

Exactly feck mutants.....
Originally posted by Mass_Murda
And I'm calling myself a DOCTOR.... need an appoiontment?????

Dr. Mass Murda y, because I said so


loser

When Xavier used the term in X-Men Forever (well, when Jean read what he wrote about her and Bobby), he said that omegas have unlimited potential. Marvel's said that Rachel has unlimited TP and TK. While they may not have used the word to describe her, they certainly used its definition.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
When Xavier used the term in X-Men Forever (well, when Jean read what he wrote about her and Bobby), he said that omegas have unlimited potential. Marvel's said that Rachel has unlimited TP and TK. While they may not have used the word to describe her, they certainly used its definition.

Thanks you it's just a Title.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Uh.. no. You're wrong. Nimrod stated he had encountered an omega, two decades before this definition of omega was used. She's not an omega unless some writer nowadays decides to make her one.

Check ign

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
When Xavier used the term in X-Men Forever (well, when Jean read what he wrote about her and Bobby), he said that omegas have unlimited potential. Marvel's said that Rachel has unlimited TP and TK. While they may not have used the word to describe her, they certainly used its definition.
Psylocke's TK is limited only by her imagination.. which she says has no limits. Doesn't make her an omega.

Originally posted by Mass_Murda
Check ign
No.

I knew this would get away from my orginal obejctive WHO WOULD WIN

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Psylocke's TK is limited only by her imagination.. which she says has no limits. Doesn't make her an omega.

That's something that's yet to be proven. Psylocke can't pick up a dime with her TK (so much for imagination) while Rachel's run the gamut from manipulating her own DNA to creating black holes. There's a big difference.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
That's something that's yet to be proven. Psylocke can't pick up a dime with her TK (so much for imagination) while Rachel's run the gamut from manipulating her own DNA to creating black holes. There's a big difference.
Neither of them are unlimited... if the Shi'ar weapon that they recently blocked had been more powerful... or if Psylocke hadn't been there... then Rachel would have died... because her TK isn't unlimited. Neither is her TP... she was schooled by Emma who is less powerful but endlessly more refined.

And it's by Rachel's own admission that Psylocke's TK is more powerful.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Neither of them are unlimited... if the Shi'ar weapon that they recently blocked had been more powerful... or if Psylocke hadn't been there... then Rachel would have died... because her TK isn't unlimited. Neither is her TP... she was schooled by Emma who is less powerful but endlessly more refined.

And it's by Rachel's own admission that Psylocke's TK is more powerful.


As far as the TK is concerned, you're confusing stamina with ability. Rachel's ability is unlimited, but her stamina is not. Of course, since she can alter her DNA, she could fix that problem (like any of the other Grey uber TKs), but it would make a team pointless. Re Emma, just because Rachel didn't know how to do something or didn't think of it doesn't mean that she couldn't do it. She obviously COULD do it. Emma just showed her the trick.

Rachel has also held back tons, even when she was Phoenix, because of what happened to Jean in the past. She has self imposed limits on what she will allow herself to do. Rachel is growing into her powers much more naturally than Jean did. Still doesn't mean that she's not an omega. Both TOHOTMU and the 198 Files state that she has virtually unlimited TP and TK.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
As far as the TK is concerned, you're confusing stamina with ability. Rachel's ability is unlimited, but her stamina is not. Of course, since she can alter her DNA, she could fix that problem (like any of the other Grey uber TKs), but it would make a team pointless. Re Emma, just because Rachel didn't know how to do something or didn't think of it doesn't mean that she couldn't do it. She obviously COULD do it. Emma just showed her the trick.

Rachel has also held back tons, even when she was Phoenix, because of what happened to Jean in the past. She has self imposed limits on what she will allow herself to do. Rachel is growing into her powers much more naturally than Jean did. Still doesn't mean that she's not an omega. Both TOHOTMU and the 198 Files state that she has virtually unlimited TP and TK.

A lot of people have "virtually unlimited" powers doesn't make them omega.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
A lot of people have "virtually unlimited" powers doesn't make them omega.

Like whom?

And even if that were the case, how many are described explicitly in those terms, both on panel and in handbooks?

People like Exodus, Hyperstorm, X-Man, Scarlet Witch, ... even things like Darwin's reactive evolution. They're not Omega mutants unless it's stated that they are an "Omega mutant". Rachel Summers hasn't been.

Rachel wielded the PF. Only omegas can wield the PF. Therefore she's an omega.

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Wikipedia is wrong.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
Rachel wielded the PF. Only omegas can wield the PF. Therefore she's an omega.
So did Feron. Is he an Omega mutant too?

Perhaps I should restate myself a bit more accurately:

Rachel hosted the PF. Only omegas can host the PF. Therefore she's an omega. If you have an issue with it, take it up with Marvel. I don't write the stories, and I'm not responsible for their continuity. I can say that the above is true as of the last appearance of the PF in 616.

Still doesn't make her an Omega. Because the only thing that qualifies you as an Omega is being called one on panel. Find me on panel the words Rachel Summers/Marvel Girl is an Omega mutant. Go on. Do it. 🙂