Sentry Respect Thread

Started by janus7757 pages

puts WWH vs raging Sentry in a whole new context.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
It all depends. On the physical level I dont see Thor doing that to Ares but Thor is a much bigger threat . Even now Sentry is dealing with someone that can convert their godly essence into their hammer, complete teleportation through time and space and much more. If nothing else thor has the power to remove Sentry from the game for everyone else.

But you guys read this?? Fury thinks Thor shld handle Sentry. Fury always looks up to Thor. But I think if Thor gonna fight Sentry than He has to bring his A-game... and go all out, cutting loose. Anything less he's a goner.

Originally posted by joesha28
But you guys read this?? Fury thinks Thor shld handle Sentry. Fury always looks up to Thor. But I think if Thor gonna fight Sentry than He has to bring his A-game... and go all out, cutting loose. Anything less he's a goner.

Okay Thor doesn't have to go all out, if he went all out Asgard might not be there and earth its self my be missing a large chunk. Thors definition of all out is destroying ego, Thor a planetoid at Surtur, spinning his hammer so hard it makes winds of thousand worlds, creating a cosmic maelstorm. Thats Thor all out he can't do that on earth. Besides that fact he is weakened all ready probably couldn't go all out if he wanted to. He would probably have to watch out for Sentry using his speed, because Sentry seems to realize that you can actually use speed in a fight as he did to Thor before and sadly Ares. Thor can handle this speed of Sentry he caught Zefra with ease, and has gone twice the speed of light, one of his powers is being able to catch speedsters. Although I'm not saying it will be easy since Sentry can bring his molecules back together now. You almost make it sound likes its Mangog or Durok lol.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Considering the shape Thor is in at the moment I dont think Sentry would have much to worry about.

Thats what Thanos and Mangog said and look where they ended up? Grogg the godslayer said that to and look where he ended up. I atleast thought Sentry would hurl Ares thousands of miles away.

Originally posted by SamZED
Whatever happened to Watchdog? Or did Sentry simply create it under his own power?

The first one was a dog that Sentry gave powers to, just like that Scout sidekick he had until the Void ripped his arm off. I don't remember it appearing beyond the New Avengers arc in his civilian house.

The second one (the Corgi) was a robot Sentry built. The last time I remember seeing it was when Sentry was with the Mighty Avengers. Maybe it's still in the Watchtower.

Originally posted by bbrem123
u think thor can handle ares like that...i sure as hell dont...dont think thor would stand much of a chance...but thats just me

TWO worsd for you : ODIN FORCE.

U wait !!!!

I think Bendis has been planning this for sometime. Its gonna be close and very bloody and I see the Void (Its not Senry anymore, he no lonegr exists), winning but I think Thor is gonna do the forces of good proud. That Fury message pretty much foreshadows it.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
I think Bendis has been planning this for sometime.
I think you may be right.

Question at large: is Sentry's powerset open or closed?

Originally posted by Mindship
I think you may be right.

Question at large: is Sentry's powerset open or closed?

Very Open ... depending on the writer.

In case of the Bendis fight its gonna be very closed.

Thor will probably win visciously. I'm not convinced of Sentry's greatness just because he ripped Ares, a pure underachiever and arguably a jobber, in half.

The MM thing is another matter though....

Still, Sentry is being set up to be villainous with blood lusted Void side. Thor, the ultimate purveyor of good would have to win yes? 😛

its just weird cuz thor never really did much way back when the void was versing marvel earth in his first mini series

anything can happen in this comic it seems

Am I the only real Sentry fan who DOES NOT like the direction Robert is going in? I hate the way he is being written...sure him controlling molecules and ripping Ares apart is cool in a way but it's not Sentry. Sentry as his name is defined is a guardian and not murderer, so I don't understand him ripping a former friend and teamate apart. Okay I know the excuse of Void may be in control of Robert at the moment is likely to appear but if this is the case there are two large flaws... one being that Void doesn't give a damn about anyone on Earth or orders from Osborne so it's not convincing that he'll just blindly obey Osborne as Robert has (unless he himself knows Osbornes true goals and intentions himself and agrees with them) and two Robert would not willingly succumb to the Void, he's afraid of what he can do...why would he allow him to be in complete control? Bendis has so many loose ends in his stories that it's ridiculous. The way Robert somehow remembers that his true powers lie within matter manipulation is so lazy imo and how incompetent he is a travesty...Robert was the "first and greatest" among Marvel heroes, something they all aspired to be why is he now a mindless lackey with no selfworth or direction blindly following a lunatic and psychotic? God I hope that he dies at the end of Siege and is retconned and retold by someone who has an idea of what the Sentry really is. He needs a new origin, a better direction, more character development, defined but unclear powers and a cohesive backstory and future. He has so much potential but it seems to all be lost with Bendis at the helm...return Sentry back to the hero and icon that were present on Jenkin's run and actually come up with a better origin for his fear of the Void.

Originally posted by Longinus
Am I the only real Sentry fan who DOES NOT like the direction Robert is going in? I hate the way he is being written...sure him controlling molecules and ripping Ares apart is cool in a way but it's not Sentry. Sentry as his name is defined is a guardian and not murderer, so I don't understand him ripping a former friend and teamate apart. Okay I know the excuse of Void may be in control of Robert at the moment is likely to appear but if this is the case there are two large flaws... one being that Void doesn't give a damn about anyone on Earth or orders from Osborne so it's not convincing that he'll just blindly obey Osborne as Robert has (unless he himself knows Osbornes true goals and intentions himself and agrees with them) and two Robert would not willingly succumb to the Void, he's afraid of what he can do...why would he allow him to be in complete control? Bendis has so many loose ends in his stories that it's ridiculous. The way Robert somehow remembers that his true powers lie within matter manipulation is so lazy imo and how incompetent he is a travesty...Robert was the "first and greatest" among Marvel heroes, something they all aspired to be why is he now a mindless lackey with no selfworth or direction blindly following a lunatic and psychotic? God I hope that he dies at the end of Siege and is retconned and retold by someone who has an idea of what the Sentry really is. He needs a new origin, a better direction, more character development, defined but unclear powers and a cohesive backstory and future. He has so much potential but it seems to all be lost with Bendis at the helm...return Sentry back to the hero and icon that were present on Jenkin's run and actually come up with a better origin for his fear of the Void.

How can u be so passionate about a character who has no defining character traits and is portrayed as invertebrate/1 Dimensional thug ? I HAZARD a guess that his love is directed at an IDEAL that never came to be ?.... You support this rhetoric with the un-isnpiring Jeckins minis, assuming that no one else has actually read them. On both occasions Sentry was portrayed as nothing more than Superman Esq cliche, taking part in a mediocre conspiracy tale.

Maybe I really enjoy the character and the concept of what he could be more so than what he is now? And yes I would prefer if Sentry were returned to his upstanding self more so than being deemed a psycho...I don't mind if the MU views him as a psycho because he believes the Void exists and no one else is on his side...to me thats cool and makes for a more compelling story but don't make him to be the monster that he's sought to destroy his entire career. Thats counterproductive and makes what he's done in the past a complete waste. Thats like Batman going out of his way to never kill and one day he's like "this is easier" and starts packing guns and actually kills villians. That erases the whole concept of Batman and for me I see the this being done to the Sentry. If you don't agree with me thats fine but this is my opinion, not really understanding why you try to pick my post apart but okay.

its called "tragic"

its a good thing, imo. disliking it is liek disliking anakin skywalker for becoming darth vader because thats counterproductive to all the good he was trying to do...

Anakin was tragic because he ultimately fulfilled his destiny and redeemed himself, how can Sentry do the same? Anakin had motivations, i.e Padme and forseeing her dying & he ultimately resulted in her death which he was trying to somehow prevent but Robert allowing Void to control him and commit things he doesn't agree with is not the same thing. Ok I just think its wierd that Sentry kills Ares, a hero in a savage way but allows Terrax who is a much greater threat to simply leave the Earth after breaking his axe. I don't see the logic...and I know its a comic I'm just saying. I don't see how Sentry is tragic though, atleast not in his current incarnation. And yea I like tragic characters but Sentry moreso seems just insane than tragic...theres a difference he moreso resembles Joker or Green Goblin than someone with real reasons and motivations for their actions but hey whatever

Originally posted by bbrem123
its just weird cuz thor never really did much way back when the void was versing marvel earth in his first mini series

I don't even think Thor was around during the little "Void saga". If he was he would have been depowered just like how Dr.Strange was. Classic Thor alone however or Strange alone would have been able to handle Void like its a walk in the park.

Originally posted by Longinus
Am I the only real Sentry fan who DOES NOT like the direction Robert is going in? I hate the way he is being written...sure him controlling molecules and ripping Ares apart is cool in a way but it's not Sentry. Sentry as his name is defined is a guardian and not murderer, so I don't understand him ripping a former friend and teamate apart. Okay I know the excuse of Void may be in control of Robert at the moment is likely to appear but if this is the case there are two large flaws... one being that Void doesn't give a damn about anyone on Earth or orders from Osborne so it's not convincing that he'll just blindly obey Osborne as Robert has (unless he himself knows Osbornes true goals and intentions himself and agrees with them) and two Robert would not willingly succumb to the Void, he's afraid of what he can do...why would he allow him to be in complete control? Bendis has so many loose ends in his stories that it's ridiculous. The way Robert somehow remembers that his true powers lie within matter manipulation is so lazy imo and how incompetent he is a travesty...Robert was the "first and greatest" among Marvel heroes, something they all aspired to be why is he now a mindless lackey with no selfworth or direction blindly following a lunatic and psychotic? God I hope that he dies at the end of Siege and is retconned and retold by someone who has an idea of what the Sentry really is. He needs a new origin, a better direction, more character development, defined but unclear powers and a cohesive backstory and future. He has so much potential but it seems to all be lost with Bendis at the helm...return Sentry back to the hero and icon that were present on Jenkin's run and actually come up with a better origin for his fear of the Void.

That didn't even look like Sentry who killed Ares if you look closely kind of had like and emptiness type look like some villain bent on Destruction. Sentry usually look clueless, or determined, chances are it was the void. They are rushing Sentry to much though not giving fans time enough to feel him. Plus hasn't gotten enough good fight time in as well. Like the way he defeated Absorbing man. Now adays Thor does the same thing which isn't worth reading. Classic Thor however would tussle, use secret attacks then win by doing what he does now adays making it interesting. Who knows maybe a new writer will change all that.

guys someone has to make a Sentry discussion thread and take all this stuff there...this should remain a respect thread

[QUOTE=12505765]Originally posted by kakuzu
I don't even think Thor was around during the little "Void saga". If he was he would have been depowered just like how Dr.Strange was. Classic Thor alone however or Strange alone would have been able to handle Void like its a walk in the park. [/QUOTE

Except they were both there during the original Sentry mini - or as u call it the VOID saga.

Both were helpless against him. Even current Sentry's power levels have been toned down since that first story line. Although it was a bit ambiguous it basically implied that both he he and the Void were omnipotent. All the other heroes together stood against the Void - Similar to the New Avengers encounter (Without Thor - but they did have Black Bolt), and only just held there own.