Silver Surfer vs Doomsday

Originally posted by Wynndar
SS could use his powers to decieve, imprison, depower, or disintigrate DD IMO.

GL tried to imprison DD. Failed.
Omega effect failed to do anything to DD, thats out of the question.
Doomsdays early battles had him fighting an energy being who was able to defeat him. That is no longer the case. The guy is basically immune to Surfer level energy blasts and effects...and Surfer isn't strong enough physically.

Besides, If surfer is that powerful, why did thanos beat him down physically that easily? Why didnt surfer use light speed reaction, power up his strength with cosmic power as well, turn thanos into glass, or go back in time to defeat him?

why indeed old chum

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
GL tried to imprison DD. Failed.
Omega effect failed to do anything to DD, thats out of the question.
Doomsdays early battles had him fighting an energy being who was able to defeat him. That is no longer the case. The guy is basically immune to Surfer level energy blasts and effects...and Surfer isn't strong enough physically.

Besides, If surfer is that powerful, why did thanos beat him down physically that easily? Why didnt surfer use light speed reaction, power up his strength with cosmic power as well, turn thanos into glass, or go back in time to defeat him?

*Gasp* Surfer defeated by...Thanos...?

Originally posted by Wynndar
*Gasp* Surfer defeated by...Thanos...?

"can this really be so? has the mighty Silver Surfer lost to the power of Doomsday?!??? or can he still manage to claim victory...we'll find out next time on....the Silver Surfer Chronicles

Surfer has great speed advantage.
diversity of power advantage.
flight advantage.

Doomsday is superpowerful.
came come back stronger and immune to same power that killed him.
has way more invulnerability than surfer. (DD is as invulnerable as superman.
DD has fighting skill advantage.
DD is way smarter than surfer (his iq is near that of superman).
DD wins after a long hard fight that injuries him slightly.
After that he heals as if he were nevr even injuried.

To put it this way:

"surfer is like a god, DD is like a slayer of gods."

"surfer is like a god,
YEP

"DD is like a slayer of gods."

NOPE MORE LIKE A TROLL

Can't SS devolve beings? If so, all that evolving and adaption DD has undergone is rendered useless. Matter manipulation is also handy, since I don't see DD coming back from having his atoms scattered across a few solar systems. Also, since he's never developed any kind of flight in spite of being trapped on deserted planets or in space and being defeated by flyers, tossing him in a black hole should work. At this point, he's so durable that it probably wont kill him, but he would never be able to break out either. Perfect solution.

Originally posted by Wynndar
*Gasp* Surfer defeated by...Thanos...?

Why....ummmmmmm....yes!

Seeing as SS has all these amazing abilities above Thanos (besides durability of course) why did he lose?

Thanos under his own power does not have...

Light speed of any kind.
Cannot travel in time.
Teleportation.
The power to transmute.
DD strength levels.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Why....ummmmmmm....yes!

Seeing as SS has all these amazing abilities above Thanos (besides durability of course) why did he lose?

Thanos under his own power does not have...

Light speed of any kind.
Cannot travel in time.
Teleportation.
The power to transmute.
DD strength levels.

Damn who posted that piece of shit from the corner of wrong and more wrong

😆

Originally posted by Khellendros
...Wow. someone doesn't know much about Thanos.
He may not have actual super speed, but he does have the reaction time to react to Silver Surfer flying at him at FTL speeds.
He can teleport through the use of technology.
He can indeed transmute, because he's an Etneral. They all can. That's also the reason he's so insanely durable.
And, finally, he is far above any conventional herald level beings in pure physical strength. He's taken on Drax and Hulk and made fools of them. In one fight with Drax, they were unleashing to much force with their stuggle that they broke apart the planett hey were standing on. And Thanos wasn't even injured. Thanos is surfer times three AT LEAST.

Ok, my post said without Tech he can't teleport.
The FTL reaction time for thanos is bull. Captain America dodged Thanos easily until Thanos made the ground grab his legs.
Show Thanos transmuting something under his own power please. His durability is great against energy attacks and it seems like he has a lot less against physical attacks (or wolvies claws wouldnt penetrate him)

Hulk wasn't savage, and Drax is an idiot. No big whoop that he has beat them... He tricked Champ, blasted a very weak galactus, and used a device on Thor when he had the power gem.

I'll take Thanos over Doomsday every day of the week. A brick like Doomsday has got no business tangling with the conquerer of the Multiverse.

Surfer would defeat Doomsday rather easily, in my honest opinion. Too versatile, too fast, too powerful. Doomsday beating Surfer is almost as far-fetched as Hulk beating Superman. 😄

Hey, Avvy. 😉

Long time no see Cube. How da heck are ya?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ok, my post said without Tech he can't teleport.
The FTL reaction time for thanos is bull. Captain America dodged Thanos easily until Thanos made the ground grab his legs.
Show Thanos transmuting something under his own power please. His durability is great against energy attacks and it seems like he has a lot less against physical attacks (or wolvies claws wouldnt penetrate him)

Hulk wasn't savage, and Drax is an idiot. No big whoop that he has beat them... He tricked Champ, blasted a very weak galactus, and used a device on Thor when he had the power gem.

Thanos most certainly can transmute matter. He can even shapeshift.
Getting dodged doesn't speak of poor reflexive speed. Wonder Woman has dodged the Flash, but that doesn't mean that Wally's reflexes are shabby in the least.

Good info Avvy, but when have you ever seen Thanos go for a fist fight with anyone who posed a physical threat? He's much smarter than that.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Long time no see Cube. How da heck are ya?

I'm great. College is so time consuming. *sigh*

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Thanos most certainly can transmute matter. He can even shapeshift.
Getting dodged doesn't speak of poor reflexive speed. Wonder Woman has dodged the Flash, but that doesn't mean that Wally's reflexes are shabby in the least.

Good info Avvy, but when have you ever seen Thanos go for a fist fight with anyone who posed a physical threat? He's much smarter than that.

He's smart enough to get out while the getting is good. In that Thanos is untouchable. 😄 The guy knows how to put on a great show.

When has Thanos transmuted matter under his own power or shapeshifted? Now that sounds interesting.

Ah, college life. The good old days.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He's smart enough to get out while the getting is good. In that Thanos is untouchable. 😄 The guy knows how to put on a great show.

When has Thanos transmuted matter under his own power or shapeshifted? Now that sounds interesting.

Ah, college life. The good old days.

Avoiding blows from a person who's clearly your physical superior is a bit different than running away from a fight. Can we be so sure that Doomsday is Thanos's physical superior? It's quite debatable.

Thanos manipulates matter pretty often. One good example is when he caused the ground to "grab" captain america, as you earlier mentioned. Shapeshifting? Not sure. I'm not a big Thanos reader, so I won't touch the subject.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Avoiding blows from a person who's clearly your physical superior is a bit different than running away from a fight. Can we be so sure that Doomsday is Thanos's physical superior? It's quite debatable.

Thanos manipulates matter pretty often. One good example is when he caused the ground to "grab" captain america, as you earlier mentioned. Shapeshifting? Not sure. I'm not a big Thanos reader, so I won't touch the subject.

Remember that when he used the ground the grab Captain America, he was wearing the Gauntlet. It wasn't under his own power.

The avoiding example was used because a human can't avoid someone who is FTL.

The best durability example I can think of for DD is when Supes left him at the end of time. After Supes left him there (time was frozen for supes until he left) even entropy didn't kill DD right away. Lets not forget that DD did go through the GL corps...still quite a feat.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Remember that when he used the ground the grab Captain America, he was wearing the Gauntlet. It wasn't under his own power.

The avoiding example was used because a human can't avoid someone who is FTL.

The best durability example I can think of for DD is when Supes left him at the end of time. After Supes left him there (time was frozen for supes until he left) even entropy didn't kill DD right away. Lets not forget that DD did go through the GL corps...still quite a feat.

You do know he was toying with Cap and the heroes right?

Thanos could've caught him anytime and killed Cap.

Originally posted by Beyonder
You do know he was toying with Cap and the heroes right?

Thanos could've caught him anytime and killed Cap.

He sure was..at first...
He realized they weren't a joke and went back to full power once he realized that he couldnt toy with them too much.