Final Invitation to Heaven, sincerely Jesus Christ of Nazareth

Started by Capt_Fantastic28 pages
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I was not trying to provide any definitive evidence of what Heaven looks like.

Because you can't. You can't provide any proof for anything you say.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Because you can't. You can't provide any proof for anything you say.

I haven't seen one thread that you have personally started in the religion forum. Hmm...strange that you are even in this forum. But hey, I am willing to hear some intelligent responses instead of the infantile and sophomoric replies that you seem to send my way.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You can't provide any proof for anything you say.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Because you can't. You can't provide any proof for anything you say.

Proof goes against the very bases of faith. The idea of faith is to believe something without a proof.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Proof goes against the very bases of faith. The idea of faith is to believe something without a proof.

Yes, there are yet two intelligent woman on this forum (lil...and Debbiejoe).

oops.

Except both totally disagree with you.

Mere faith can lead to any conclusion.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do you "sound" so bitter? You already know that I don't know what Heaven looks like. But you know what I am willing to affirm that you do not know what Heaven looks (or does not look like) either. With regard to this matter we are essentially in the same boat. The difference is that I am not bitter about the issue. I have about as much proof as you that Heaven looks this way. I never went on record and said, "Hey everyone this is what Heaven looks like, I know because I have been there. Here is my artist rendition of what I saw." You never read anywhere in my posts where I said that. So why be difficult and try to antagonize me on something moot as "what Heaven looks like?" I was not trying to provide any definitive evidence of what Heaven looks like. Nobody is even talking about why God would need anything. I was just showing pictures for fun sake. Why does life have to be so serious and overcast with you? Based on the context of things mentioned in the Bible about New Jerusalem, Heaven must be somewhat of a planet. The garden of Eden must have been relocated there since it no longer is here on earth. New Jerusalem is the city part of Heaven. So it appears that Heaven consists of Paradise and New Jerusalem within Paradise. Paradise perhaps occupies the periphery of Heaven and New Jerusalem perhaps a subset or locale within Paradise. So Heaven could not be any of the descriptions that you hypothesized. I think you are trying to interject your concept of what your heaven is or would be (which is an unbiblical one). As far as the disparage (pederast) and all of the other nonsense I will not take offense. I choose not to take offense because perhaps you just don't know any better. Father forgive Robtard, for he knows not what he does (or says). Now go out and smell some flowers, hug and kiss your woman, have fun, enjoy life, rejoice over your bank account--or something other than finding fault with me for something trivial as a couple of innocuous (harmless) pictures.

Write as often as you wish just cheer up some. Maybe I should aske you to tell me another joke like I did last time. It did wonders for you.

One can't be bitter when laughing...

Hey, cheering you up is a good thing. If you actually posted those pictures just for 'fun', then no worries. But it did seem like you were dangling bait out and trying to pass off your faith as fact.

Originally posted by Storm
Mere faith can lead to any conclusion.

Meaning that its wrong.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do you "sound" so bitter? You already know that I don't know what Heaven looks like. But you know what I am willing to affirm that you do not know what Heaven looks (or does not look like) either. With regard to this matter we are essentially in the same boat. The difference is that I am not bitter about the issue. I have about as much proof as you that Heaven looks this way. I never went on record and said, "Hey everyone this is what Heaven looks like, I know because I have been there. Here is my artist rendition of what I saw." You never read anywhere in my posts where I said that. So why be difficult and try to antagonize me on something moot as "what Heaven looks like?" I was not trying to provide any definitive evidence of what Heaven looks like. Nobody is even talking about why God would need anything. I was just showing pictures for fun sake. Why does life have to be so serious and overcast with you? Based on the context of things mentioned in the Bible about New Jerusalem, Heaven must be somewhat of a planet. The garden of Eden must have been relocated there since it no longer is here on earth. New Jerusalem is the city part of Heaven. So it appears that Heaven consists of Paradise and New Jerusalem within Paradise. Paradise perhaps occupies the periphery of Heaven and New Jerusalem perhaps a subset or locale within Paradise. So Heaven could not be any of the descriptions that you hypothesized. I think you are trying to interject your concept of what your heaven is or would be (which is an unbiblical one). As far as the disparage (pederast) and all of the other nonsense I will not take offense. I choose not to take offense because perhaps you just don't know any better. Father forgive Robtard, for he knows not what he does (or says). Now go out and smell some flowers, hug and kiss your woman, have fun, enjoy life, rejoice over your bank account--or something other than finding fault with me for something trivial as a couple of innocuous (harmless) pictures.

Write as often as you wish just cheer up some. Maybe I should aske you to tell me another joke like I did last time. It did wonders for you.

I do know what heaven looks like. It looks like all the other ten worlds. It looks like this world, because this world is the only heaven that exists. Don’t give me that “the world is filled with hate and death routine” because the world is also hell, if that is how you want to see it.

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Originally posted by Alliance
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I haven't seen one thread that you have personally started in the religion forum. Hmm...strange that you are even in this forum. But hey, I am willing to hear some intelligent responses instead of the infantile and sophomoric replies that you seem to send my way.

sophmoric? When I was in my sophmore year of high school, I'd already endured 10 years of catholic school education. I don't start threads because I don't need to repeat myself and condemn everyone else in the process. I'm secure in my spirituality, which is something I have noticed that most people who try to convert others to their religion are not. If you need to come onto an internet website to convert people, then you don't realize what a waste of time it is. If your religion tells you to convert people, then you should realize that this is not the way to do it succesfully.

And I think the first step to intelligence is to question the people who have told you what to believe rather than blindly and unquestioningly believing them. It seems to me that following the bible without making exceptions for the glaring contradictions from one book to the next also displays a lack of intelligence. I'm not saying "don't be a christian". I'm saying don't be a blind one, while warning everyone else about the disadvantages of not believing it without question. And what's more is that if people don't realize that the obvious contradictions and various versions of the same story that appear in the bible are pretty obvious clues to the fact that an infallible god didn't write it, then they have no buisness questioning the intelligence or maturity of others.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Proof goes against the very bases of faith. The idea of faith is to believe something without a proof.

Thank you, I'm aware. But unquestioned rules of faith is just irresponsible. Not to mention that it limits god in every way.

Originally posted by Alliance
Meaning that its wrong.
Who can say all that may exist and may not. WE are only discovering what lies beyond the bounds of time in science as we speak.......

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I haven't seen one thread that you have personally started in the religion forum. Hmm...strange that you are even in this forum. But hey, I am willing to hear some intelligent responses instead of the infantile and sophomoric replies that you seem to send my way.

You do know this is an open forum don't you? That a person can post here without actually needing to meet any requirements (other then obeying the rules?) And I think it is better to just post then to make numerous threads on the same subject with little need and obvious intent to try and "convert" people...

why have we gone from discussing a topic to simply arguing with JIA?

Originally posted by fini
why have we gone from discussing a topic to simply arguing with JIA?

Because he seems like God's scapegoat?

but we keep coming back to the same thing. He doesn't learn anything, we learn that he is hopeless and its nearly as useful to our brain as the OTF, lol, If i wanted to read nonesense, I would go there, lol. And have more fun.