Battle 4

I think we have this figured out now (and I apologize for the time and confusion...I've been trying my best):

A. Newjak can't argue for construct-related things. That's Blair's territory.
B. Nothing but passive shields during prep are allowed. All other arguments can be enacted once the battle starts, but should not be taken into account during prep.
C. The construct situation seemed rectified, and is legal. The constructs, while independant, are bound to Kyle's will...and thus would die along with him if that were to happen. Anyone questioning this should realize that GLs very power is to create constructs, and we placed a limit on independent constructs to prevent any possible cheap tactics.

Good enough for me....now if only Khell or KVD would post something so I can unleash an unholy horror on tem 😬

Can you edit it down then?

Khell already mentioned how the team prepped for the battle so I won't go over it again. The only thing that I'll add is because of Witchfire's telepathy, she'd be able to sense the opposing team right at the start or even before, and seeing as the entire opposing team is encased in magical shields, Witchfire is easily able to keep track of them right even before the fight starts (within the rules because it's a 'sense', like hearing). The immediate moment that the battle begins, Witchfire focuses on Shaman and telepathically blasts him at full force, and as you'll read on her bio, her telepathy is amplified to an unknown level, most likely because of her demonic heritage. So, even before Shaman's used any powders or give Juggernaut flight, or anything else the other team is planning to do right at the start of the fight, Shaman is out of the picture.

How much concentrating do you think Kyle will be doing once he sees a brain-dead partner next to him? A moment after that mental blast, Spartan teleports off to do his thing, Witchfire summons five of the largest and most powerful demons she can and sends them off to create a distraction for the other team. By the time Kyle and Juggernaut know what's happening, they have demons piling on top of them. Shortly after that, Blackbolt and Witchfire arrive on the battle scene. Upon seeing a glowing ring on the ground, Witchfire uses her telekinesis to bring it to her. Blackbolt then releases a scream. The suddenly-human Kyle is disintegrated, and Juggernaut is blasted by a combination of the scream and Witchfire's telepathy.

I believe these two paragraphs have countered your initial post.

Originally posted by newjak86
This makes no sense seeing as the way we CAN detect him is through his spirit and he cant hide from magic can he??

Originally posted by newjak86
This makes no sense seeing as the way we CAN detect him is through his spirit and he cant hide from magic can he?? Did I forget to mention their Daxamites????

Originally posted by newjak86
Wow. He teleported some parts of her body. Real impressive. When you show a scan of him teleporting pieces of the GROUND and stick them precisely into someones brain

Originally posted by newjak86
Here is Shaman doing exactly what he can do teleporting notice how he teleports everyone instantly over great distances without having to see where he is going. Since he knows where Spartan is at all times (thanks to his spirit) and one of the Daxcamites can tell him where everyone else is well Shaman teleports everyone into he Shell cutting them in half.

He can teleport up to ten or so people. Thats nothing considering you are just three and he doesnt even need to look at where they are teleporting

'Porting a guy out of his hotel room and into the same room as himself. Shows some nice precision, since the guy didn't end up with his legs in the floor.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8305/clairvoyantporting1a5fb.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4551/clairvoyantporting1b8ze.jpg

Oh, and here he is 'porting 5-6 people simultaneously, from different areas. More than enough to destroy your team.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6092/clairvoyantporting36ku.jpg

How does he do that? Well, as the filenames suggest, that would fall under the "Clairvoyant" section of that Void link

-Clarivoyant-
Void possess powerful Clarivoyant abilities that grant her an intuitive awarness of her enviorment on a cosmic level. She is capable of searching for and monitoring various events happening across the globe and is also slightly empathic as well. She can use her clarivoyant talent to locate others and sense their approximate status and keep track of multiple events happening.

Originally posted by newjak86
Plus beyond all that, your team is STILL mute since all it takes is some powder being thrown for it to be effective. Black Bolt and Witchfire cant do jack squat now.

[Judge's Note]

Post Count:

Khells: 2/9
KVD: 1/9
Newjak: 1/9
B-Dub: 0/9

Originally posted by illadelph12
Can you edit it down then?

Already edited newjak's post that talked about GL stuff. If there's anything else that needs neutered, lemme know.

Funny. Not happening. 😬 Telepathy? Sorry but thats not gonna work. Here is another GL who is under Kyle blocking telepathy from Fernus (who is decidedly better at telepathy)
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fernusvsjla2h7bv.jpg
And I did say that Shaman was protected by GL didnt I? So we move on.

Ummm demons? I thought that we had agreed on no demons by Witchfire 😕 but seeing as I have independent constructs (who ARE under the limit) Ill have to wait on judgement from Mungi as to if they are too powerful for the tourny of not. But I doubt they are fast.
And we like fast dont we Newjak? Daxamites can go pretty damn fast. Heres proof: http://ollien.free.fr/BD/leg1b.jpg
Now to go that speed in the middle of a sentence and suddenly be out of orbit hmmmmm, I do by chance happen to think they could cross the turtle shell before your guys even notice 😬

Dude, a GL ring did. It was Kyle way back when. He knows about it and now he more fully understands how to do things with it. I dont need to prove that Kyle can do it, he ALREADY has 😬

Personally I like this attack for Spartan, since he is a a PURELY cybernetic body http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/2488/teleportingrepair26pw.jpg we can just rewrite his programming and have him kill himself 😬
Kyle Vs Amazo 2000. This version of the Amazo had the powers of nearly every superhero on Earth. The JSA, JLA, Marvel family, Strange Visitor, Firestorm, etc.
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p336gb.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p348nw.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p359ov.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p368nd.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p370nr.jpg
So yes, we can just rewrite his programming (considering we have more than one GL on the field). Sorry seems spartans not good for much
He gets torn apart by
A) Any GL
B) Any Daxamite (who are ALSO GLs) who gets his hands on him or
C) Through magical means

Are we still on the damn teleporting? A gl ring can do the same:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/101bed38.jpg
Get over it.

Now Shaman has made the whole opposing team mute through his [b]magical pouch[b] remember that? Good. I dont need to show 100% proof from a pouch that can pull out anything he damn wants 😬 sorry your not winning that argument. Black Bolt doesnt need to whisper to make the scream? Speak? So he can mimic the effects of the scream through his electron control WITHOUT opening his mouth and using his vocal cords?? Didnt think so. Besides with the GLs there I can just convert his powers from electron control and make all his big scary powers produce light. Sorta how Kyle made this guys physical efforts turn to sound 😬
http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla006142wu.jpg
Anyways Shaman has been given speed by the other Daxamites (who have speedblitzed your whole team)
Black Bolt suddenly has to deal with two Daxamite characters with a GL ring and the the ring can scan Black Bolt and realize his powers. They just change the polarity because BB just separates the molecular bonds of matter (electron interaction; ie, magnetic bonds). The ring can counter this by using a positive charge (protons) to stabilize the effect (stabilizing the polarity and negating the separation). They should be done fairly quickly (he passes out when the tuning fork gets knocked off) and come to the aid of the others. Spartan is off with Kyle and another Daxamite kicking the crap outa him, and Witchfire has "he who shall not be named because it is Newjaks character" and two Daxamites on her. I sincerely doubt you can cope with the magnitude of the situation. I have the speed advantage, I have the power advantage, the strength advantage, and the versatility advantage.

Also just to show how powerful a GLs shields are check this out:
Kyle makes a prison for the CSA and holds them for over a day. Ultraman (evil Superman) tries for hours to break it and fails. Kyle kept this up while attending to other business on Earth. Not even their version of Green Lantern could break it.
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20441wd.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20452yu.jpg
http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20525fm.jpg
http://img419.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20538vf.jpg

AND any magical attack from Witchfire (if she even manages to pull on off considering she got Speedblitzed) could be absorbed by a GL 😬
http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlantern110p177jy.jpg

And this scan says all I have to say: http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight124-11.jpg

And about the demons are they constructs or actual living breathing things that will be around after Wicthfire dies or are they simply teleported in??

To explain in brief: Telepathy is a non factor in this fight. Black Bolts powers can ALL be countered with either Magic or a GL ring. Spartan can be either magically attacked, his computer programming can be re written, or the Daxamites can tear him apart. Witchfire gets her head ripped off by any of the strong men in the my team, and Shaman is busy annoying the hell out of everyone with magic. We win 😄

Face it Khell your trying to to hard to make this a one dimensional match where you try to say your one attack kills everyone on our team. When in fact it is just one attack and we have described a number of ways to take your guy down(one them being the same your trying to use against us). Your gonna have to bring something new Khell because we have you beat with this we're just too versatile in taking any of your guys down in a number ways faster then you could take us down. I think we win if you want to continue this.

[Judge's Note]

Khells: 2/9
KVD: 1/9
Newjak: 1/9
B-Dub: 1/9

Question:

I think Khells has a valid point.

Outside of the subconscious manifestations during the Oblivion arc, has Kyle ever created his independant GL/Daxamite hybrids through conscious force of will?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Already edited newjak's post that talked about GL stuff. If there's anything else that needs neutered, lemme know.

Batdude's post with the quote should be chopped too Digi.

Non official post:

A Gl Ring can literally do anything and everything. Since this act has already taken place its already been proven to be possible. Kyle has MUCH greater control of his ring now and being that he did it without even trying, or noticing and it took no willpower it seems at all, just the desire to do it he was able to do it. Just imagine now him trying. Sorry Khell, but its happened. Move on with life and get over it 😬

besides that he once created a construct of himself DURING a fight (with Sarkur (sp?) a God) and while he was hiding it fought and died. It spoke of its own free will. 😬 So its not only a one time thing

[Judge's Note]

Do you have a scan of this "Sarkur" occurance? You can use an unofficial response to provide it.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Personally I like this attack for Spartan, since he is a a PURELY cybernetic body we can just rewrite his programming and have him kill himself 😬

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Are we still on the damn teleporting? A gl ring can do the same:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/101bed38.jpg
Get over it.

Also, there's another problem with that. See, your entire team is only human level in reaction times. Now, Spartan's mind is so fast that he can process info streaming into his brain at light speed.
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/5303/lightspeedmind8wq.jpg

And Black Bolt? Well, he's good enough to knock around an enraged Gladiator (this is after being tortured by Ronan, btw).
http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=eaae1_lilandra4.jpg
http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=9eff9_lilandra5.jpg
http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=9058f_fourv3.jpg
So, if those ridiculous Daxamites, which you can't even bring into battle, or any other constructs get near Witchfire or Black Bolt, it's simple for him to blast them away with his scream.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Now Shaman has made the whole opposing team mute through his [b]magical pouch[b] remember that? Good. I dont need to show 100% proof from a pouch that can pull out anything he damn wants 😬

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Speak? So he can mimic the effects of the scream through his electron control WITHOUT opening his mouth and using his vocal cords??

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Black Bolt suddenly has to deal with two Daxamite characters with a GL ring and the the ring can scan Black Bolt and realize his powers.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
The ring can counter this by using a positive charge (protons) to stabilize the effect (stabilizing the polarity and negating the separation).

Originally posted by Blair Wind
AND any magical attack from Witchfire (if she even manages to pull on off considering she got Speedblitzed) could be absorbed by a GL 😬
http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlantern110p177jy.jpg

Originally posted by Blair Wind
And this scan says all I have to say: http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight124-11.jpg

King_Mungi wrote on Jul 10th, 2006 03:43 PM:
Just so you know that scan with Wyre is wrong, she doesn't need to speak to cast spells.

So, we have two easily superhumanly fast characters. You have three very human speed characters. Now, you say Kyle can give you all super speed, but you're also saying hes going to counter Black Bolt's powers. OH, and he's also going to whip up five Daxamites, which you can't prove he can do. Oh, and he's also going to try and FAIL to reprogram Spartan. Ohhh, and he's also going to try and counter Witchfire. My my, someone's forgetting that your boy is just human. In the meantime, all Spartan has to do is teleport something into the brains of Shaman and Kyle, like he did with all the debris/furniture here.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4935/teleportingrepair18yo.jpg

Or teleport their arms off, like he did here.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3838/teleportingbodyparts4nj.jpg

Or teleport Kyle's ring off of his hand and Shaman's pouch off his waist, like he took the gun out of this assassin's hand.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6761/teleportingassassin11uz.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9784/teleportingassassin20cd.jpg

And that leaves Black Bolt to SCREAM at them, when a whisper is enough to knock out Gladiator.
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=dc07d_praetor1.jpg
http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=b768f_praetor2.jpg

Or the Hulk.
http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=a8c39_vrshulk4.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7332/image67fs2ca.gif
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8900/image75hi2ry.gif

Or destroy a barrier not even Skrull-made nukes could crack.
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=e3f1e_dome2.jpg

Face it, boys. I've got all the speed, and all the offensive power. You've got Kyle trying to do half a dozen things at once, all in the time it'd take Spartan to remove him from this fight permanently... oh, and you have Juggernaut. 😂

[Judge's Note]

Blair, you're trying to use Alan Scott feats also? [Answer unofficially.]

Unofficial:
No no...that was a Jade feat. She used her ring to absorb his magical energy. I dont need it, but its there 😬

Plus I wouldnt use Alan feats seeing as they are magical in nature and slightly different than a GL ring

[Judge's Note]

Khells: 3/9
KVD: 1/9
Newjak: 1/9
B-Dub: 1/9

To make things much easier let me reiterate our points

During my prep:
I created lots of shields (which would fall under general shielding yes?)
If anyone tries to hit one of our sheilds they will have to deal with the phobia protection I covered it in
I asked the wind spirit to protect Juggernaut as a shield. Shaman could tell him that during the battle he would be able to fly if he so wished. Other than that, my defenses are nigh impenetrable.

Now for the battle:
Kyle begins by quickly creating the five Daxamite Gls (who can give/take speed, and have computer type brains) He does this in an instant, much like he created another life like construct against Sarkus during a fight
Kyle Rayner vs. Sarkus, a god of the planet Galtea- also created a construct of himself which made Sarkus think he was fighting the real one
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=105rf.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image= 110aj.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=165xy.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=175xq.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=185cy.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image= 199fo.jpg
He talks, he fights, he flies, he dies, he is all green then hes not all green and there was no energy trail to see 😬 seeing as these Daxamites are in the greatest sense of the word still constructs they too can be made...

Again these constructs have speed and can give/take speed:
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glas18nastynat8ph.jpg
(this was adam strange she just gave some speed too):
http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2greenlanterncircleoffire02123.jpg
Superspeed:http://ollien.free.fr/BD/leg1b.jpg
Once this has happened and Shaman has made the opposing team mute by a magical spell (reaching into a pouch where he can pull off anything he damn well pleases) we proceed to kick your ass

How we handle Spartan:

See, he's a BIOSYNTHETIC android. He's neither purely mechanical or purely alive, which makes him immune to telepathy and hacking attempts. And that was an older, MUCH less advanced model. The first version that appeared in comics, in fact

Hmmm interesting. However, didnt you yourself give a bio that stated that body was completely obliterated and they made a cyborg body with a disc of memories? Therefore NOT being biosynthetic any longer? Meaning he is now purely Cyborg? So if you could please get a scan of the spartan you are using for this battle doing the same thing then I can leave it alone
It still doesnt change the fact that Kyle still beat on Amazo 700 who had almost every superpower in the world 😬
and gasp he used mutiple constructs who beat the crap outa him. Same things gonna happen to Spartan
Kyle Vs Amazo 2000. This version of the Amazo had the powers of nearly every superhero on Earth. The JSA, JLA, Marvel family, Strange Visitor, Firestorm, etc.
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p336gb.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p348nw.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p359ov.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p368nd.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p370nr.jpg

Now unless you prove that this Spartan is similarly immune, this attack would make him incapable of attacking any of us. One of my Daxamites has targeted him, and has proceeded to kick his ass in this manner with Kyle himself there to do the aforementioned feat. With superior power outage we would be able to kick his butt. Also the GL ring has its own defense capabilities and will not let something fatal happen to the GL. It protects his whole entire body.

Besides that, when has Spartan ever taken pieces from the ground and implanted them into someones head?

How we deal with Black Bolt:

And Black Bolt?

What about Black Bolt? He has a major weakness with that antennae of his
As shown when hit or broken, it causes him terrible pain.
Thor vs Black Bolt:
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=b354a_verthor6.jpg

Here we have Invisible Woman placing a bubble around his head DURING a scream and making him pass out.
Invisible Woman vs Black Bolt:
http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=a4aeb_team7.jpg
http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=800f8_team8.jpg

Now we call all safely assume that GL is MUCH more powerful than IW right?
We have two of the Daxamites come and while Shaman does this to him with the turtle shell wrapping around him.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight12-18.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight12-19.jpg
they can make a vacuum around his head. You remember the vacuum technique Im sure Khell. I used it on you last time as well. 😈

Simply put he can just put him in a soundproof amorphous construct that has no air in it. How long does it take for a person to pass out from a total vacuum? If I remember correctly from the last tournament it was about 15 seconds isnt that right Khell?

How we deal with Witchfire:

We have two superfast Daxamites on her like white on rice. Heat vision, kinetic energy drain, frost breath, a green energy vacuum surrounding her head until she passes out and then well....that one guy I cant talk about does what ever my partner says he does

What Khell basically said: Your having Kyle do to damn much.

😆 and you keep ignoring the fact that I have 6 GLs 😬

And how ARE you going to counter my constructs? Just a bunch of constructs made by ALL the GLs sorta like Kyle beat Amazo?
Sorta like this: (five different scans not related to eachother)
http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlanternv3136103dc.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlantern1999114140ua.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlantern124p181qc.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlanternv3178076jw.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlanternthenewcorps01131gw.jpg

ROOKIE Kyle KOing Mongul
http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlantern199453179su.jpg

or holding them all in shields like this:
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glonemillion153wm.jpg

which as you can see not even evil superman can break (nor can their version of GL)
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20441wd.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20452yu.jpg
http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20525fm.jpg
http://img419.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20538vf.jpg

Your forgetting also that the Daxamites I made can steal speed. Hmmmm where did that really fast Black Bolt go?

Sorry, my ringS kicks your butt 😬

In brief: Spartan gets taken apart by both a Daxamite who is his physical equal and his energy manipulating superior, and one of the best GLs in the business. Teleporting can only take you so far and as he says himself he is not omnipotent http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/2488/teleportingrepair26pw.jpg.
Black Bolt gets hit by a green lantern missile to the head and/or gets a bubble put around his head that creates a vacuum.) Wichfire gets physically overpowered by the Daxamites and by Juggernaut. Our energy projection helps things move along nicely. Simply put? We have more options that you do. Period 😐

OR an alternative solution to ALL of this can be done very quickly. The moment Kyle creates his Daxamites they (like transmuting elements and such) all mix two hygrogen atoms with one helium atom and create an H-Bomb 😬
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlanternv3135052wj.jpg
Your average nuclear bomb, the fission bomb goes off at below a ton to around 400 kilotons(if u really throw in a lot of material). the average nuclear bomb is at only 5 kilotons.
h-bombs are expected to go off at 4-5 megatons Can anyone one on your team deal with that kind of an explosion (add 5 more explosions like that)? Because all the Gls can and can protect my team, case in point fight after the fusion all the GLs can make a shield like this: http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanv2173pg144bd.jpg However the reverse, keeping them shielded from the blast.

[Judge's Note]

Having trouble with a lot of your scans. Can you please repost them? It won't count against your post quota.

Side note:

Why doesn't this site have it's own image hosting?

They should be working fine now 😄

If not tell me which ones...

Actually, you never said you were telepathically shielded. You only said

GL makes personal shields for himself and Shaman

For argument's sake, let's say that Shaman was able to get that 'mute spell' off. Two courses of action can be taken. Let's start with one that requires a little effort. Now, do you think someone who can be used as an instrument to become supreme being doesn't have anything to dispel such a basic incantation? It'll be: Shaman casts a mute spell. Witchfire easily dispels it then uses her telekinesis to paralyze Shaman. It's a magical force directly affecting his limbs, so any shielding is useless. So, as it stands either way, mute or not, Shaman is KO'd 0.5 seconds into the fight. Now, in this hyphothetical scenario, how concentrated would Kyle be seeing his teammate paralyzed and being swallowed into the turtle shell (molecular manipulation)? Now for the easier way, Shaman casts a mute spell. Witchfire waves her hand and discorprates Shaman's head into nothingness (matter manipulation), senses Kyle and she does the same thing to the ring.

Again, if you look at my original post, Witchy summoned five demons, exactly the same number that Kyle is trying to create. If you want to take the summoning ability out of the picture, it's okay but do it for both sides. However, these demons are just distractions for the Juggernaut; and Kyle will be just a regular human, after getting his ring teleported off his hand.