Originally posted by Darth Martin
Fully weaponed Pred would be too much for thing.
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Seriously I don't know what is up with you man. Every time I read one your post my brain whats to explode. That you though V was too much for Batman almost killed me and this... this whole Predator business is even worse.
My friend, I use to own the comic book where at the start Wolverine couldn't cut Hulk. The writers change this. This should be no argument.
Anyone got the first Wolverine comic? Was Wolverine able to cut Hulk? It doesn't really matter, in their next time he gutted Hulk. This doesn't really matter because it was Wolverine's first appereance, he wasn't supposed to have any superpowers what so ever, his "claws" weren't built into his hands but ubti hus hands. and he had this gay whiskers thing going on. Besides, I'm not your friend 😛
You can ask any true wolverine fan at this forum.
Are you saying I'm not a true Wolverine fan.. I'm going to cut my wrist for that. I mean.. He's furry and all. I think he's the one who had eyeblasts.. Right? No wait! 😕
Osmium's hardness is a 7 (in mohs). Tungten is 7.5. And titanium steel alloy is close to a 7. While Osmium is very hard for a metal it is
Could be, but I'm not so sure if he's made of Osmium. I'll recheck the handbook. Nonetheless, he has taken lot more than modern metals could take. Besides, Titanium is more like 6 moths. When has Wolverine sliced Osmium, Tungsten?
To be specific, of all the hard metals from titatium steel to carbon steel they are all around a 7 in hardness. Their differences are so small and insignificant especially when wolverine has cut through the likes of them many times like butter.
Yet there has been 3 times he wasn't able to do it.
Also, colossus's strength has increased but his durability is the same (remember osmium metal).
Actually it increased aswell. Remember when he got owned in the morlock tunnels? He got gutted by bone stars, which were very sharp and thrown by huge speed. Then after Magneto healed him, the bone stars didn't affect him at all. Besides, it's possible that his durability has grown by natural "evolution". People's mutant abilities seem to keep getting stronger 🙄
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossustakintheheat.jpg Heat really does nada to him.
Colossus doesn't have superhuman speed and reflexes but only olympic ones at best. It is stated in all marvel handbooks that colossus retains his speed and agility (human level) while in the armored form.This just seems fast for his state.
Nope, his speed and relfexes are low level superhuman. Stated in a handbook and he is fast and doesn't need to drink, eat, breathe, sleep nor does he tire. Canonball wasn't able to hurt him and he has flown through tough sh*t before.
The world's militaries have stated they have nothing that can damage a Pred's weapons (they couldn't even sample it). This means that they can be as strong (or stronger) than adamantium. If adamantium is stronger then good proof must be provided.
When? Besides, they're armor and tehcnology has been destroyed by pulserifles and shotguns before. Explosives usually tend to broke their equipment and armors.
My friend, in the comics, Preds are truly invisible. Not in the movies though. Also show me one human on the level of colossus's fighting ability (or any human) beating a pred in h2h combat.
Tarzan? Dutch's brother? Colossus has lot more training than these guys. He hangs with the best supermen and uses the most advanced training center. The danger room.. Well that was before Danger room tried to kill him as his team mates.
Preds are on average smarter than any human. They will either continue to blast colossus with their plasma weapons while eluding colossus until victory. Note: colossus doesn't have infinite durable. He will be damaged (if only minimal) from each hit. Thus with enough hits he will fall. This is just one strategy. The pred could also just walk up to him (invisible) and slice him in half. They are stonger than wolverine and their melee weapons have been shown to just as effective.
Shown to be more durable than adamantium.. When did predator actually slice through durable... umm, stuff? It still hasn't been proven that Wolverine nor a Predator could hurt Colossus. Hell, Death-rine had to use Hulk's own strength to cut through his skin.
This is what's written on Answers.com Colossus possesses the ability to transform his entire body into a form of organic steel, named by some sources as analogous to osmium, but of still unknown composition.
Why would spiderman jump in the air? He can dodge on the ground
His precog sense usually tells him to dodge by jumping.
Do you know how fast spiderman is? He will hit Pred before he has time to think. By your own statement "Preds have been beat by humans" (who are hundreds of times slower than spiderman)
Very fast. Not really, Predators have advanced reflexes. They're able to block Aliens' attacks easily which are VERY fast themselves. Besides, What does skill matter if you're being blasted by a weapon? I'm not saying Predator would win trying to melee him. It's a nearly automaticly win for the Spider-man if he does that. But the Predator is not going to melee him. Unless he comes close and at the same time a tracking caster his bolting him in. If Spidey get's closer he's going to be hit more easily. If the predator graps Spider-man even for a second., he could snap him with his net gun or just with his plasma canon. He's not going to dodge anything if he's not able to move.
So it is best to use feats that occurred more than they have been contradicted. It makes no sense to use things that happened the minority of times over the majority as the truth. This includes spiderman's majority dodging feats over his minority getting hit ones. This includes the majority of things we have seen Preds and Wolverine cut through over the minority of things they didn't. Thus PIS and CIS are eliminated. Hence spiderman wins easily and colossus loses easily.
Minority is like 1 or 2 times. Then they wont be called canon. (Depeding on showings overall) Spider-man has been... Umm, hit in every comic? I can't remember Predators cutting anything worthwhile.. Issue numbers? Scans? I'm still holding my ground. Colossus takes majority, Predator takes slight majority over Spidey. "My hands are shaking! my hands are shaking!! My hearts pumping!!! and I'm still getting them!!!! Boom head shot, boom headshot!!!!!"
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Bullshit. Just because you chose to ignore everything I say because it doesn't fall in with your deluded fan boy believes doesn't mean it wasn't said. The fact is in almost every comic feature a Predator this is a human/group of humans who best them (or at the very least give them a challenge) and more often then not they are random army grunts. Some times the human who kicks their ass is a super bad ass like Subotai... but usually it isn't. How many times do I need to through out a random list of people/crappy robots/moutain lions who have beat Predators? Predators aren't that impressive... except in Bad Blood but I guess that should be Hamma'd since since it is out of line with other appearances.Why do Predators slaughter people when they first appear? Because they have the element of surprise. That's it. It has little to do with any them resembling skill. They show up invisible and pick off unsuspecting people who are scared shitless. I'm sorry if I don't find this impressive.
Anyone else find it strange that I use comic examples for why Predators lose but no comic evidence can be present to support a win? I wonder what that is about? Oh yeah! There isn't any
Pred hater..!!
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http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5724969 -Speed + endurance echanged.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Bullshit. Just because you chose to ignore everything I say because it doesn't fall in with your deluded fan boy believes doesn't mean it wasn't said. The fact is in almost every comic feature a Predator this is a human/group of humans who best them (or at the very least give them a challenge) and more often then not they are random army grunts. Some times the human who kicks their ass is a super bad ass like Subotai... but usually it isn't. How many times do I need to through out a random list of people/crappy robots/moutain lions who have beat Predators? Predators aren't that impressive... except in Bad Blood but I guess that should be Hamma'd since since it is out of line with other appearances.Why do Predators slaughter people when they first appear? Because they have the element of surprise. That's it. It has little to do with any them resembling skill. They show up invisible and pick off unsuspecting people who are scared shitless. I'm sorry if I don't find this impressive.
Anyone else find it strange that I use comic examples for why Predators lose but no comic evidence can be present to support a win? I wonder what that is about? Oh yeah! There isn't any
He's still right though. Don't use movie examples in a comic debate 🙂
Kam - Plasma could do some damage. This one guy here is saying Their metals are adamantium like. We need Jinzin here.. Spearguns are supposed to shoot sh*t at light speed so they could do damage.
Originally posted by Jyppethe spear does not fly at light speed and a gully charged shoulder cannon could blow a man to peices, but the thing is no man.
He's still right though. Don't use movie examples in a comic debate 🙂Kam - Plasma could do some damage. This one guy here is saying Their metals are adamantium like. We need Jinzin here.. Spearguns are supposed to shoot sh*t at light speed so they could do damage.
