Superman & Wonder Woman (vs) Alpha Flight

Started by xmarksthespot7 pages

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Guardian, and Shaman merely needs a second to say Shush and freeze time.

Guardian can literally shut their brains off or xmarksthespot puts it BTR

Guardian can freeze time?

Not before they're speedblitzed... you don't seem to be getting the whole concept of speedblitz.

What's a BTR? 🤨

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Guardian, and Shaman merely needs a second to say Shush and freeze time.

Guardian can literally shut their brains off or xmarksthespot puts it BTR is another option

Like I said, Shaman doesn't have that second.

Realistically, with all of them bloodlusted, the fight is Guardian, Vindicator, and Majormapleleaf against Supes and WW.

How does Guardian shut off their brains?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and? she's immortal, any damage they do she can instantly heal.
Are you saying that Snowbird in all her appearances has never been knocked out? Ever? In the history of the world?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Guardian can freeze time?

Not before they're speedblitzed... you don't seem to be getting the whole concept of speedblitz.

What's a BTR? 🤨

Read my post, Shaman can

No you assume they instantly know who to take out, which they don't and then you expect everyone else not to do anything

I meant BFR

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Read my post, Shaman can

No you assume they instantly know who to take out, which they don't and then you expect everyone else not to do anything

I meant BFR

You said Guardian and Shaman. Then they speedblitz everybody.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Like I said, Shaman doesn't have that second.

Realistically, with all of them bloodlusted, the fight is Guardian, Vindicator, and Majormapleleaf against Supes and WW.

How does Guardian shut off their brains?

Whats preventing Gaurdion or Vindicator from occuping them along enough for SHaman to freeze time or Teleport them away.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Like I said, Shaman doesn't have that second.

Realistically, with all of them bloodlusted, the fight is Guardian, Vindicator, and Majormapleleaf against Supes and WW.

How does Guardian shut off their brains?

Yes he would

Which would be horrible for them
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Guardian_I

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are you saying that Snowbird in all her appearances has never been knocked out? Ever? In the history of the world?

In immortal form, no.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You said Guardian and Shaman. Then they speedblitz everybody.

No, "and" as in another point.

You actually don't think Superman and WW can speedblitz 4 people with far far far lower reactions and speed than them each?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You actually don't think Superman and WW can speedblitz 4 people with far far far lower reactions and speed than them each?

Well considering they have no idea their strengths or weakness so no. Guardian with his durability and Vindicator can take a punch. Hell, Guardian w/ Vindicator III created an E-M field around the Hellpounder protecting the team from a nuclear blast.

Originally posted by newjak86
Whats preventing Gaurdion or Vindicator from occuping them along enough for SHaman to freeze time or Teleport them away.

I do believe Superman (maybe WW) is faster than either of them. In the link Mungi posted, it said Guardian's suit allows him to go up to speeds of Mach I (the speed of sound).

Originally posted by H. S. 6
I do believe Superman (maybe WW) is faster than either of them. In the link Mungi posted, it said Guardian's suit allows him to go up to speeds of Mach I (the speed of sound).

No read the rest of the post, he can go far faster. With this "shunt" Mac reaches up 18.5 miles per second. Escape velocity [mach 32.7] is 7 miles per second. Tapping into his failsafe system he can go speeds over light speed.

Guardian, Vindicator, and Sasquatch all wearing Hulk-Buster armor couldn't beat a depowered Juggernaut. As much as it pains me to say this I think Superman and WonderWoman win this fight.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Guardian, Vindicator, and Sasquatch all wearing Hulk-Buster armor couldn't beat a depowered Juggernaut. As much as it pains me to say this I think Superman and WonderWoman win this fight.

WRONG! The fight was literally 1 minute as said by Northstar and which Guardian and Vindicator twice had to tell Sasquatch to get off of Jugz and they didn't want to fight.

Jugz said they were Hulk-buster, not AF.

edit: The author seemed to forget Mac has a shield so how could Jugz grab him? Guardian has blasts that can kill Sasquatch with one blow, but did you see Vindicator or Guardian using their actual battle suit weapons? nope. Nice how Jugz shirt was ripped off by Sasquatch and the next issue it's back on.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No read the rest of the post, he can go far faster. With this "shunt" Mac reaches up 18.5 miles per second. Escape velocity [mach 32.7] is 7 miles per second. Tapping into his failsafe system he can go speeds over light speed.

Where does it say that?

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Where does it say that?

Speed section and wormhole.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Speed section and wormhole.

Ah ha!

Originally posted by King_Mungi
WRONG! The fight was literally 1 minute as said by Northstar and which Guardian and Vindicator twice had to tell Sasquatch to get off of Jugz and they didn't want to fight.

Jugz said they were Hulk-buster, not AF.

edit: The author seemed to forget Mac has a shield so how could Jugz grab him? Guardian has blasts that can kill Sasquatch with one blow, but did you see Vindicator or Guardian using their actual battle suit weapons? nope. Nice how Jugz shirt was ripped off by Sasquatch and the next issue it's back on.

Yea but Juggs quit fighting.........and oh yea was depowered.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No read the rest of the post, he can go far faster. With this "shunt" Mac reaches up 18.5 miles per second. Escape velocity [mach 32.7] is 7 miles per second. Tapping into his failsafe system he can go speeds over light speed.
That's nice if they're all standing exactly on the latitude lines. Does it actually say he can do escape velocity or is that just there for reference?

We already went over the light speed thing. He can't travel and fight at light speed... is there any other instance that he even goes "over light speed" other than when he got thrown millions of years and miles off course.

Edit: Oh, forgot about that recent showing of Sasquatch that puts him at about the level of Jobbernaut... 🙂

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Yea but Juggs quit fighting.........and oh yea was depowered.

Guardian has taken down a weakened Galactus, once again did you see Vindicator shot lava blasts? or Guardian E-M blasts? no. Hell, Sasquatch when he fought Jugz the first time was stalemating him and had the biggest hit.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's nice if they're all standing exactly on the latitude lines. Does it actually say he can do escape velocity or is that just there for reference?

We already went over the light speed thing. He can't travel and fight at light speed... is there any other instance that he even goes "over light speed" other than when he got thrown millions of years and miles off course.

Edit: Oh, forgot about that recent showing of Sasquatch that puts him at about the level of Jobbernaut... 🙂

What? no, he doesn't have to be on the latitude lines. Actually he can go faster than escape velocity as it's 7 miles per second, while he shunt he goes 18.5 miles per second.

Yes he can, he didn't have control over it as it was pre-upgrade and his suit was already damaged.

That's Sasquatch, Tanaraq is different
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Tanaraq