Flash can absorb K-Energy, and so can Surfer. The difference is Surfer is better at it. There isn't an energy in the universe Surfer can't control, even magic.
I don't know how fast Surfer can run, but he still has lightspeed and greater reactions and reflexes. Anyone who can calculate the speed, size, weight and power of an astroid in less than a nanosecond has near or above LS reactions.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
reflexes yeah. Mobility, i dunno. he could always try to create something to ride on akin to terrax using rocks to travel like surfer
What's more important, running at near lightspeed or being able to react and calculate at above lightspeed? They seem equal to me.
Flash won't speed blitz since Surfer would see him as a normal if not slightly under a normal person in the speed depo.
If you have a fast car and that's about it, and you face a guy in a tank with no wheels but the tank has nukes and a time machine built in, who would win?
Originally posted by long pig
What's more important, running at near lightspeed or being able to react and calculate at above lightspeed? They seem equal to me.Flash won't speed blitz since Surfer would see him as a normal if not slightly under a normal person in the speed depo.
If you have a fast car and that's about it, and you face a guy in a tank with no wheels but the tank has nukes and a time machine built in, who would win?
Originally posted by Skeets
Surfer doesn't need to move a step to ko flash.He'll simply do an area attack and take him out.If Flash some how manages to out run the explosion Surfer can mind rape his ass.
problem is, once flash has momentum he might be fast enough to outrun something like that. Of course, if they were fighting on a planet he could alwasy blow it up or something and he has by far more chances to survive.
Originally posted by long pig
What's more important, running at near lightspeed or being able to react and calculate at above lightspeed? They seem equal to me.Flash won't speed blitz since Surfer would see him as a normal if not slightly under a normal person in the speed depo.
If you have a fast car and that's about it, and you face a guy in a tank with no wheels but the tank has nukes and a time machine built in, who would win?
well they seem equal in perceiving and reacting to things so they would probably handle it in a a slugfest or Surfer using his other abilities to his advantage. Eventually though Flash speeds would build up and exceed his, that's when it get's a bit wee more dangerous for surfer.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
problem is, once flash has momentum he might be fast enough to outrun something like that. Of course, if they were fighting on a planet he could alwasy blow it up or something and he has by far more chances to survive.
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
problem is, once flash has momentum he might be fast enough to outrun something like that. Of course, if they were fighting on a planet he could alwasy blow it up or something and he has by far more chances to survive.
Flash with a lot of momentum has nearly limitless speed since he's got the whole time altering stuff.
If Flash tries too hard to go too fast too soon, his speed will be greater than his reaction time which leaves him normally running into something.
Originally posted by long pig
Ah, good to hear someone who has actually seen Flash's feats. In truth, Flash without momentum moves around just under the speed of sound.Flash with a lot of momentum has nearly limitless speed since he's got the whole time altering stuff.
If Flash tries too hard to go too fast too soon, his speed will be greater than his reaction time which leaves him normally running into something.
I agree. If he fights stupid, there might a chance his reckless behaviour would get payed back. Engaging an enemy like SS without being near those levels is just plain dangerous(well not that much if it's former pacifist surfer)
of course, with the board things might not go like this.
Originally posted by long pig
Ah, good to hear someone who has actually seen Flash's feats. In truth, Flash without momentum moves around just under the speed of sound.Flash with a lot of momentum has nearly limitless speed since he's got the whole time altering stuff.
If Flash tries too hard to go too fast too soon, his speed will be greater than his reaction time which leaves him normally running into something.
Originally posted by Skeets
has that actually happend? his running speed be faster the his reaction speed causing him to run into something.
He has to be smart and time his movements to where he canstay in control of where he goes.
Things I've seen Flash run into:
A poll
A person
A sword
A building
A well placed kick
He's even had to back track and move slower just because he was moving too fast to see the world around him. Case in point: He ran past a guy in the snow, he had to run back to see who it was because to him "Everything was a blur".