Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
i don't think his perception get's left whenever he reaches those speeds. He could still comprehend things right? It probably adjusts to the speed he is running at.
Originally posted by long pig
Yes, many...MANY times.He has to be smart and time his movements to where he canstay in control of where he goes.
Things I've seen Flash run into:
A poll
A person
A sword
A building
A well placed kickHe's even had to back track and move slower just because he was moving too fast to see the world around him. Case in point: He ran past a guy in the snow, he had to run back to see who it was because to him "Everything was a blur".
What? That's bull (I'm referring mostly to these instances where Flash claims he can't see things, I mean no animosity towards you). Not to say I don't believe you, but that's just crap. I've read issues of JLA with Flash running so fast and so efficiently, that he actually appears in two places-- at once. At one point, he's going so fast (to help two different teams), that he's LITERALLY looking at himself through a two way portal that he just happens to be at the opposites sides of. And these two teams were, I believe, several countries apart from each other.
Flash's perceptions/reactions increase to match his speed everytime. When he gets hit with a damn kick or runs into a sword, that's just pure and utter crap. Should've just vibrated through the damn sword at least.
Flash is also faster than instantaneous travel. I know it sounds crazy, but he once beat out a transmission sent from (I forget where) somewhere deep in space that was travelling at instantaneous speeds, and he still beat it in a race.
I'm not really sure who would win this fight, however. Especially since Silver Surfer is one of the very few comic characters that can actually hang with Flash in the speed department. In fact, because of their near equivalence of speed, I'm going to say this a 50/50 match. Surfer can be taken out with enough physical damage (it's rare, but been done before). And Flash can be taken out with the numerous powers Surfer has, it's just a debate as to whether or not he'll be able to use said powers in time.
So yea. I'm sticking with 50/50 for each.
Originally posted by MetalmanxI dunno. It seems like Surfer has several big advantages on Flash.
I'm not really sure who would win this fight, however. Especially since Silver Surfer is one of the very few comic characters that can actually hang with Flash in the speed department. In fact, because of their near equivalence of speed, I'm going to say this a 50/50 match. Surfer can be taken out with enough physical damage (it's rare, but been done before). And Flash can be taken out with the numerous powers Surfer has, it's just a debate as to whether or not he'll be able to use said powers in time.So yea. I'm sticking with 50/50 for each.
1) Much better durability.
2) Telepathy/telekinesis.
3) Cosmic Awareness/Energy manipulation.
All Flash's defense seems to come from his speed (and a bit of Speed Force Protection, which isn't really enough to factor into this battle). Surfer has the reflexes, awareness, and the ability to hinder Flash's ability to run. It then seems that Surfer should be able to take away Flash's speed advantage, thereby denying Flash any advantage at all.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I dunno. It seems like Surfer has several big advantages on Flash.1) Much better durability.
2) Telepathy/telekinesis.
3) Cosmic Awareness/Energy manipulation.
All Flash's defense seems to come from his speed (and a bit of Speed Force Protection, which isn't really enough to factor into this battle). Surfer has the reflexes, awareness, and the ability to hinder Flash's ability to run. It then seems that Surfer should be able to take away Flash's speed advantage, thereby denying Flash any advantage at all.
Eh. You pose valid points there. I still think this depends on who can get off a powerful-enough attack first. I think it's debatable whether or not Flash can do such a thing. He doesn't necessarily even need an IMP to be powerful. He can do many lightspeed punches as well, like he performed agaisnt Zoom one time. Durability, even Surfer's can be worn down quickly if hit in the right spots at light speeds.
Still, I'm undecided.
Originally posted by MetalmanxI'm not saying Flash couldn't land some punches on the Surfer, but the Surfer's reflexes are such that Flash's blitz won't last long. I just don't think that Flash could land enough hits of sufficient strength to put Surfer out. Surfer will counter and when that happens, Flash is dead. This is why Thanos beats Flash also, IMO. Those godlike reflexes are pesty buggers.
Eh. You pose valid points there. I still think this depends on who can get off a powerful-enough attack first. I think it's debatable whether or not Flash can do such a thing. He doesn't necessarily even need an IMP to be powerful. He can do many lightspeed punches as well, like he performed agaisnt Zoom one time. Durability, even Surfer's can be worn down quickly if hit in the right spots at light speeds.Still, I'm undecided.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I'm not saying Flash couldn't land some punches on the Surfer, but the Surfer's reflexes are such that Flash's blitz won't last long. I just don't think that Flash could land enough hits of sufficient strength to put Surfer out. Surfer will counter and when that happens, Flash is dead. This is why Thanos beats Flash also, IMO. Those godlike reflexes are pesty buggers.
I know Surfer can travel past the speed of light, but he hasn't shown light speed reflexes in battle that often if at all.
Well he was able to dodge meteor shower being thrown at him, while also going as fast as he can to reach his distination. Most of his reflex feat are shown only against moving meteor storm while also multitasking. Ie. Scanning, thingking, contacting via TP. I dont think thats any different in battle, the targets are moving at fast speed, also are many and at opposite direction.
Surfer dodges starship fire, comets, and seeking missiles traveling at near relativistic speeds. He has a better chance of tagging the Flash than most characters out there and when that happens, Flash is done.
I'm not saying Surfer is reacting to Flash equal speeds here, but I think this is worth a look. Surfer stops a blitz and gets in the backhand!