Originally posted by Eclipso
I suggest you take your own advice and read back to what he said today to the mods.And I did look up the defintions, read my last post for info on that.
I read it. I even participated. It wasn't insulting. It was just facts. Though someone might have taken offense, that is of no matter as people can take offense at anything.
No, you posted definitions. Incorrect ones. We are talking about having respect for someone or showing respect.
Here are actual definitions from Merriam-Webster's:
1 : a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation <remarks having respect to an earlier plan>
2 : an act of giving particular attention : CONSIDERATION
3 a : high or special regard : ESTEEM b : the quality or state of being esteemed c plural : expressions of respect or deference <paid our respects>
4 : PARTICULAR, DETAIL <a good plan in some respects>
Originally posted by Bardock42
So to paraphrase: I was right. Correct?
Right about what? If anything I was right, even though I misunderstood. My interpretation wasn't founded on a reasonable grounds. I wasn't arguing that he didn't give respect, simply that I interpreted it to read that way. You can prove me wrong with an interpretation, just the understanding. You, I believe, tried to argue how I interpreted (or came to the conclusion of) my opinion.
so to paraphrase: no, you weren't.
Originally posted by AOR
Right about what? If anything I was right, even though I misunderstood. My interpretation wasn't founded on a reasonable grounds. I wasn't arguing that he didn't give respect, simply that I interpreted it to read that way. You can prove me wrong with an interpretation, just the understanding. You, I believe, tried to argue how I interpreted (or came to the conclusion of) my opinion.so to paraphrase: no, you weren't.
...I said you misunderstood. And you just agreed that you misunderstood. How was I not right?
Originally posted by Bardock42
I read it. I even participated. It wasn't insulting. It was just facts. Though someone might have taken offense, that is of no matter as people can take offense at anything.No, you posted definitions. Incorrect ones. We are talking about having respect for someone or showing respect.
Here are actual definitions from Merriam-Webster's:
1 : a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation <remarks having respect to an earlier plan>
2 : an act of giving particular attention : CONSIDERATION
3 a : high or special regard : ESTEEM b : the quality or state of being esteemed c plural : expressions of respect or deference <paid our respects>
4 : PARTICULAR, DETAIL <a good plan in some respects>
No mine are correct, I got them out of my copy of the oxford dictionary, your defintions may aslo be correct but mine are as well.
Originally posted by Bardock42
...I said you misunderstood. And you just agreed that you misunderstood. How was I not right?
Than you are partly wrong. Yes your right that I misunderstood him, wrong that I didn't leave out the parts that explained. It was only later that he explained what I misunderstood. But now we're arguing with details.
I misunderstood what you posted Bardock, my apologies. Yes you were correct in that I misunderstood. I pray that this does not affect any (if any) of our future debates.
Originally posted by AOR
So I said, if he isn't going to give or wait to give, and doesn't give authority by default, than you in fact don't give authority period.
No, you've made a hash of everything I said.
I said I'm not waiting on them to earn my respect, I didn't say they couldn't earn it as people, I didn't say I'd never respect them in any way. I said I'm not sitting here hoping they earn it, waiting for them to earn it, and that they being a moderator on an internet forum isn't a job worthy of respect anyway.
I didn't say; "If someone does the job well, I won't respect their ability to remain impartial and stick to the rules whilst moderating with intelligence and initiative." did I? I said by default I don't think the job title is one that deserves respect. It's not like you go out to third world countries and aid people, you're a forum moderator. You completely misinterpreted what I said and ran with it.
Now you're arguing with people over what I meant, when we clearly already know. So everything is a bit pointless.
-AC
Originally posted by Eclipso
No mine are correct, I got them out of my copy of the oxford dictionary, your defintions may aslo be correct but mine are as well.
Sure, so when you say that one should have respect for mods, you mean respect as in common courtesy for everyone? ****ing weird, no offense. But then of course, you should be respectful to everyone, doesn't mean you should respect everyone.
Originally posted by AOR
Than you are partly wrong. Yes your right that I misunderstood him, wrong that I didn't leave out the parts that explained. It was only later that he explained what I misunderstood. But now we're arguing with details.I misunderstood what you posted Bardock, my apologies. Yes you were correct in that I misunderstood. I pray that this does not affect any (if any) of our future debates.
It won't affect our future debates.
Though, I still don't agree that I was partly wrong. Since the second part of my initial post was just referring to the parts of AC's post that you did not underline, which included AC's actual meaning.
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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, you've made a hash of everything I said.I said I'm not waiting on them to earn my respect, I didn't say they couldn't earn it as people, I didn't say I'd never respect them in any way. I said I'm not sitting here hoping they earn it, waiting for them to earn it, and that they being a moderator on an internet forum isn't a job worthy of respect anyway.
I didn't say; "If someone does the job well, I won't respect their ability to remain impartial and stick to the rules whilst moderating with intelligence and initiative." did I? I said by default I don't think the job title is one that deserves respect. It's not like you go out to third world countries and aid people, you're a forum moderator. You completely misinterpreted what I said and ran with it.
Now you're arguing with people over what I meant, when we clearly already know. So everything is a bit pointless.
-AC
If the clarification was already made, and I accept the fault for misunderstanding, why do you insist on beating a dead horse?
Originally posted by Eclipso
Bardock wether he himself respects them or not is his issue, but he should behave in a respectful grown up manner towards them and he does not do this.
They do not do it either, in my opinion, in the opinion of many more valued members than you.
So it is to my attention that how you view my conduct isn't of any concern to me.
Once again, if you want to talk about me, you can talk to me. Otherwise, be quiet.
-AC