Originally posted by marvelprince
You know what, if you are seriously arguning that a man can beat an elephant you don't deserve a response here
I don't know why I am responding to this, maybe it is because you have changed the main object of interest from martial artist to man. Anyways what I said stands. And yes I do believe a man can defeat an elephant not physically but by out smarting it. Hence the jumping out of the way when an elephant charges at you.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Nope. Batman's suit is about 30 pounds of body armour that he wears to ensure he's bullet proof and his suiot also is a sort of nomex woven kevlar to make sure its also flame prrof. Nowhere does it state his suit was made especially to resist someone 30x stronger and 10x faster.
You are still telling me about the movie batmen.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I'll give you that. But I fail to see how that applies in a a straight up fight like this. Its not like can trick Peter into charging into a wall
you never know, I mean batman has pawned alot of very smart people.
Originally posted by marvelprince
No. But if its a silly explanantion thrown together for the sake of having an explanation and not because it is a revelant part of the story it's PIS
ok, I think we are getting somewhere, from what you just told me, it would mean every character is a PIS character. Because ever so often you would see a hero do something that he/she was not able to do but then it would be explained that he/she had something that made gave them the ability to do their new found move.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I don't know why I am responding to this, maybe it is because you have changed the main object of interest from martial artist to man. Anyways what I said stands. And yes I do believe a man can defeat an elephant not physically but by out smarting it. Hence the jumping out of the way when an elephant charges at you.
Keep telling yourself that
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
You are still telling me about the movie batmen.
You don't read much Batman do you?
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
you never know, I mean batman has pawned alot of very smart people.
He has, but not through something so silly. Usually its a larger scale scenario, like figuring out how to get them to stop their own doomsday weapon etc, which really wouldn't help in this fight.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
ok, I think we are getting somewhere, from what you just told me, it would mean every character is a PIS character. Because ever so often you would see a hero do something that he/she was not able to do but then it would be explained that he/she had something that made gave them the ability to do their new found move.
There is a big difference from Superman getting stronger by going into the Sun than by Batman having pesticicde to use on Ivy cause he thought it would come in handy. And maybe you should check again what I said. I don't have a problem with a character doing things outside of their normal abilities as long as its explained fully and not just given a throwback explantation for the sake of satiating the readers
You don't read much Batman do you?
Funny I was just about to tell you to up date your collection. You can start with something called superman/batman.
He has, but not through something so silly. Usually its a larger scale scenario, like figuring out how to get them to stop their own doomsday weapon etc, which really wouldn't help in this fight.
I would figure it would be allot easier for him to come up with a plan. Since as he is a master strategist.
There is a big difference from Superman getting stronger by going into the Sun than by Batman having pesticicde to use on Ivy cause he thought it would come in handy. And maybe you should check again what I said. I don't have a problem with a character doing things outside of their normal abilities as long as its explained fully and not just given a throwback explantation for the sake of satiating the readers
Well in superman's newest comic, titled The Next superman robbed his together creating a small energy ball which he used to close a black hole......What did I say again.......I believe I said from what you just told me, it would mean every character is a PIS character. Because ever so often you would see a hero do something that he/she was not able to do but then it would be explained that he/she had something that made gave them the ability to do their new found move. just want to know if this fit's the bill
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Funny I was just about to tell you to up date your collection. You can start with something called superman/batman.
Ah. This explains a lot about you. If you draw your Batman analyse from there instead of his own core titles of course you think he can do anything. But I'd recommend that to get a real handle on the character in terms of gadgets and regular costume specs you should read the core title
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I would figure it would be allot easier for him to come up with a plan. Since as he is a master strategist..
Wasn't disputing this. Bruce is a master strategist, but he would definitely be harder to trick Peter than say Bane or Killer Croc
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Well in superman's newest comic, titled The Next superman robbed his together creating a small energy ball which he used to close a black hole......What did I say again.......I believe I said from what you just told me, it would mean every character is a PIS character. Because ever so often you would see a hero do something that he/she was not able to do but then it would be explained that he/she had something that made gave them the ability to do their new found move. just want to know if this fit's the bill
😕 I still don't think you understand what I was saying. When some heroes come up with unconventional ways to win I don't have a problem with that. The problem with me lies when plot devices are made to seem like coincidences which go in the favor of the hero, and for Bruce that happens way too much to buy for me. When he uses something not in his regular arsenal (like him having krptonite against Superman) and it scores him a win it seems very cheap to me.
And since I haven't read the Superman comic you're talking about I don't really know whats happening but from what you've told me I'd have to say no because Superman has used 'super friction' before (granted I remember him creating electricity). That said, in the scope of physics its not entirely impossible to believe a feat like that would be out of the scope of Superman's power. I don't like the fact that DC has him doing all this extra crap but at least its better than reading "Good thing I had..."