Odin and Darkseid would stalemate, with Darkseid maybe getting the slight majority. Mangog would not have wrecked Apokolips nearly as bad as he did Asgard before being put dow by it's head honcho.
As far as Darkseid and Thanos:
I initially had Thanos taking a slight majority w/o prep and 8/10 w/prep. Anyone here that's not a noob can tell u that I LOVE The Mad Titan. But after reading thru the Darkseid respect thread...His non-prep feats just seem slightly more impressive than The Mad Titan's. So I gave him the slight majority over my guy.
From a different angle though, look at the beatings each character has taken. Doomsday almost killed Darkseid, and we know Supes has whipped on him. Thanos on the other hand took a beating from the Magus with a few gems, and a slight one from Odin. Both of those guys would beat the living shit outta DD and Supes So from that angle, you could argue Thanos takes this.
Originally posted by CreaseDoomsday beat an Avatar, not Darkseid.
Odin and Darkseid would stalemate, with Darkseid maybe getting the slight majority. Mangog would not have wrecked Apokolips nearly as bad as he did Asgard before being put dow by it's head honcho.As far as Darkseid and Thanos:
I initially had Thanos taking a slight majority w/o prep and 8/10 w/prep. Anyone here that's not a noob can tell u that I LOVE The Mad Titan. But after reading thru the Darkseid respect thread...His non-prep feats just seem slightly more impressive than The Mad Titan's. So I gave him the slight majority over my guy.
From a different angle though, look at the beatings each character has taken. Doomsday almost killed Darkseid, and we know Supes has whipped on him. Thanos on the other hand took a beating from the Magus with a few gems, and a slight one from Odin. Both of those guys would beat the living shit outta DD and Supes So from that angle, you could argue Thanos takes this.
Juntai, your certainly more DC knowledgeable than myself. However the same/similar avatars have erased very powerful beings from existance. My point is that unless the one true Darkseid's OE is powerful enough to erase DD completely from existance, evry last kryptonian atom, DD would've still evolved beyond them and kicked his ass, correct? If so, then Thanos has gotten whipped/stalemated by more powerful guys and the case could made that he's more durable than DS and would therefore kick his ass.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
no he wont since thanos stalemated him darkseid>>>>>>>>>thanos
Darkseid did better actually. His "I'll use my face to stop Superman's punches" really worked well. I mean he stalemated Superman and even asked Clark for quarters...what a powerhouse bully DS is. Then he stalemated him by getting stuck in the Source Wall.
What's that? LOW SHOWING FOR DARKSEID YOU SAY?
Thanos couldn't even match Odin offensively. It was a stalemate on the durability level. That wasn't even Odin's top showing and he still had the Strange and the Watch hiding while Drax, Thanos, and Surfer got handled. At his highest showings, planets, stars, galaxies get wrecked during his fights.
Avatars or not, DS either has barely any showings that stack up to Odin's or his showings weren't his...because those were DEfeats, not feats. Odin murders DS in a fight.
so odin could
hurt the spectre
hurt the anti monitor BADLY
kill an espect of death
be more powerful then whole pantheons (this i believe he could)
servive galaxy wide explosion
move planets with his mind
controll 3 billion beings with his mind
darkseid does most of these things with out even trying, doesnt he? DC Odin said he couldnt handle darkseid i believe he said in the past yeah he could but now that he absorbed god powers from other dead gods that it was beyond dc odin and even the whole pantheion to beat him now
and for anyone who says DC skyfathers are weaker its bull its not even true, darkseid is a skyfather and look at his feats, higher then even your normal skyfather, highfather himself is also higher then your normal highfather, shazam the wizard is another, phantom stranger might be higher then a skyfather, ganthet is definatly higher, and DC zues he keeps company with shazam the wizard, and ganthet, and phantom stranger and highfather.
Originally posted by Miderare you talking about an avatar, because an avatar is definatley below skyfather.
so odin couldhurt the spectre
hurt the anti monitor BADLY
kill an espect of death
be more powerful then whole pantheons (this i believe he could)
servive galaxy wide explosion
move planets with his mind
controll 3 billion beings with his mind
darkseid does most of these things with out even trying, doesnt he? DC Odin said he couldnt handle darkseid i believe he said in the past yeah he could but now that he absorbed god powers from other dead gods that it was beyond dc odin and even the whole pantheion to beat him now
and for anyone who says DC skyfathers are weaker its bull its not even true, darkseid is a skyfather and look at his feats, higher then even your normal skyfather, highfather himself is also higher then your normal highfather, shazam the wizard is another, phantom stranger might be higher then a skyfather, ganthet is definatly higher, and DC zues he keeps company with shazam the wizard, and ganthet, and phantom stranger and highfather.
Originally posted by Mider
so odin couldhurt the spectre
Adam put a hole in his head.
When DS hurt Spectre, Spectre had a host.
hurt the anti monitor BADLY
After he fought the Spectre and beat him. After getting drained and then killed. Dr. Light drained a SUN near by, then put a hole in him and then he absorbed the antimatter demons and came back. Anti-Monitor was fighting everyone and was getting hurt by them as well.
Darkseid used Apokolips technology against AM, he was not directly involved. It wasn't his power, it wasn't the Omega Effect. On panel, DS pushed a button and BLUE lights came out of Alex's eyes. The OE is NOT BLUE, the Omega Effect has always been RED.
kill an espect of death
The Black Racer? Thor has fought an aspect of Death as well Mider, Hela. In one of those fights, Thor was aged near death. Odin arrived and almost killed her just by grabbing her hand. She was spared by Odin.
be more powerful then whole pantheons (this i believe he could)
That's Pre-Crisis Darkseid.
servive galaxy wide explosion
When did he survive this?
move planets with his mindcontroll 3 billion beings with his mind
Both are PC feats.
darkseid does most of these things with out even trying, doesnt he? DC Odin said he couldnt handle darkseid i believe he said in the past yeah he could but now that he absorbed god powers from other dead gods that it was beyond dc odin and even the whole pantheion to beat him now
That's what is said. We've yet to see Darkseid wrecking galaxies or destroying pantheons. Even during PC era, there was only references of him doing so by races that worship those pantheons. Not all pantheons and skyfathers are the same. If he could destroy pantheons casually, the Greek, Roman, and Asgard DC pantheons would be destroyed already. Plus we don't even know if Darkseid did this on his own or with the techs and minions of Apokolips.
and for anyone who says DC skyfathers are weaker its bull its not even true, darkseid is a skyfather and look at his feats, higher then even your normal skyfather, highfather himself is also higher then your normal highfather, shazam the wizard is another, phantom stranger might be higher then a skyfather, ganthet is definatly higher, and DC zues he keeps company with shazam the wizard, and ganthet, and phantom stranger and highfather. [/B]
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that Darkseid does not have as many feats comparable to Marvel Odin unless Pre-Crisis era was referenced.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Darkseid did better actually. His "I'll use my face to stop Superman's punches" really worked well. I mean he stalemated Superman and even asked Clark for quarters...what a powerhouse bully DS is. Then he stalemated him by getting stuck in the Source Wall.What's that? LOW SHOWING FOR DARKSEID YOU SAY?
Thanos couldn't even match Odin offensively. It was a stalemate on the durability level. That wasn't even Odin's top showing and he still had the Strange and the Watch hiding while Drax, Thanos, and Surfer got handled. At his highest showings, planets, stars, galaxies get wrecked during his fights.
Avatars or not, DS either has barely any showings that stack up to Odin's or his showings weren't his...because those were DEfeats, not feats. Odin murders DS in a fight.
Yep, then later Superman freed Darkseid cause he needed the power of the man. But then Darkseid put superman in the souce wall. Superman was later freed by a contingent of supergirls. He was saved.. by a bunch of girls.
Odin himself said that he would destroy his pantheon and who cares if its PC if you wanna say its current DS he has the anti life equation, he didnt kill the black racer, it was a girl who had great power, he also killed a PC validus we all know how powerful that crazy freak was, he didnt servive a galaxy wide explosion excuse me, he servived a solar system wide explosion i believe in great darkness saga, him plus dr fate and i believe mordru where enough to destroy universes, thats how they stoped the ALE entity, and the anti monitor was still going strong even after his match with the spectre, was he going down hard after or before the OE hit him, and whats the diffrence between this host and none host spectre stuff, i dont see any diffrence in power, in DOV he didnt have a host and they say he's not that powerful where they get that notion is dumb, the spectre with a host still could create armies of himself and did some pretty messed up things to villains.
Originally posted by Mider
Odin himself said that he would destroy his pantheon and who cares if its PC if you wanna say its current DS he has the anti life equation, he didnt kill the black racer, it was a girl who had great power, he also killed a PC validus we all know how powerful that crazy freak was, he didnt servive a galaxy wide explosion excuse me, he servived a solar system wide explosion i believe in great darkness saga, him plus dr fate and i believe mordru where enough to destroy universes, thats how they stoped the ALE entity, and the anti monitor was still going strong even after his match with the spectre, was he going down hard after or before the OE hit him, and whats the diffrence between this host and none host spectre stuff, i dont see any diffrence in power, in DOV he didnt have a host and they say he's not that powerful where they get that notion is dumb, the spectre with a host still could create armies of himself and did some pretty messed up things to villains.
- Because DC Odin said so? Thanos said he wanted to avoid fights with the Hulk. Such a thing said and he's continuously slapped Hulk around.
- A girl with great power. So Loki doesn't have great powers? How powerful was she.
- PC era doesn't count.
- Solar explosion? Gladiator survived one when he pursued a Skrull ship
- Dr. Fate and Mordru could destroy universes? WTF WHEN DID THEY DO THIS?
- Once again Mider, IT WAS NOT the Omega Effect. It clearly depicts Darkseid pressing a button and BLUE beams (NOT RED) came from Alex's eyes. It never even said anything about the OE.