Pre-Crisis Supes vs RK Thor with expectations

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Let me rephrase this.

True, but none of Superman's powers indicates that he's able to defeat a character who has the power to increase all his attributes to infinite degrees, and has unlimited mystical, and cosmic power.

Very true.

But Pre-Crisis Superman's powers are nearly unlimited himself.

Here's a list of his powers:

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Intelligence: He is super-genius of the highest order, master of the sciences, able to whip up technological marvels with ease and is a great tactician - coming up with plans on the fly.

Strength: Superman has shown the strength to move multiple worlds at the same time with no effort, has resisted the gravitational pull of a Black Hole, has been shown to punch a spaceship clean out of the solar-system with one blow and create a miniature sun with the pure crushing pressure of his bare hands.

Speed: Superman can fly across the universe in hyper-space with ease, having shown himself capable of flying between galaxies in seconds. In true-space, he is able to break the light barrier and react at faster than light speeds. His reaction times can be measured in the 1000ths of a seconds or less.

Durability: Is to all intents and purposes completely invulnerable. He has survived the crushing pressure at the heart of a Black Hole totally unharmed. Has survived ground zero of nuclear and anti-matter exposions totally unharmed. Can withstand any temperature or pressure changes. Is immune to matter manipulation or disease. The only way to penetrate his invulnerability is with:

a) Magic - which completely bypasses his forcefield and affects him as any normal human. His strength and durability do not work against magically imbued materials.
b) KNite - this radiation causes agonising pain and debilitation to Superman.
c) Red Sunlight - depending on the intensity of the light, this can weaken Superman's invulnerability or even remove his powers outright.

Once he is removed from the influence of magic, KNite or Red Sunlight his powers restore completely and instantly.

Other Powers: Can fly at FTL speeds, can turn invisible and intangible, can teleport instantaneously, can move through time and dimensions, can throw/punch objects through time, can appear in several places at once, has super-hearing, telescopic vision, micro-vision, x-ray vision, can see any electromagnetic radiation, can change the intensity of light rays by looking at them, can create thunderclaps and earthquakes - can manipulate the direction of the earthquakes psionically, has super-scent, has super-breath capable of snuffing out stars and freezing objects, has super-hypnotism, super-ventriloquism.

PC supes written at his fullest is 10/10 against RKT and all of Asgard, you have to realize that PC supes strength, power, speed, all surpases RKT my leaps and bounds, PC supes can fly from the edge of the universe or existence to the other side in less then a second. He can destroy, block, or travel realities effortlessly and instantaniously by vibrating his molecues, he could bfr RKT before he knew what hit him and then seal him in a different dimension by vibrating. (PC supes actually has sealed other dimensions off before by vibrating his molecules.

Originally posted by Jesse7
PC supes written at his fullest is 10/10 against RKT and all of Asgard, you have to realize that PC supes strength, power, speed, all surpases RKT my leaps and bounds, PC supes can fly from the edge of the universe or existence to the other side in less then a second. He can destroy, block, or travel realities effortlessly and instantaniously by vibrating his molecues, he could bfr RKT before he knew what hit him and then seal him in a different dimension by vibrating. (PC supes actually has sealed other dimensions off before by vibrating his molecules.

RKT written anyway wins this fight. How can your speed(Thor can now move at warp speed which is faster than light speed), strength, and power be greater than a character who can amplify his abilities to infinite lv's? Thor has no limit to what his powers can do, and not only is he powerful but he's wise. Thor can now sense, read, and knows all things. He knows the outcome of every battle, and can read inside of people.

You can't seal a character in a dimension, when that character can move about realms, and dimensions with ease.

You can when your PC Supes, bottom line is PC supes power, speed, intelligence and influence are all above RKT's. RKT can normally move around dimensions at ease but not when PC Supes shuts them, PC supes defies all logic and continuity.

Originally posted by Jesse7
You can when your PC Supes, bottom line is PC supes power, speed, intelligence and influence are all above RKT's. RKT can normally move around dimensions at ease but not when PC Supes shuts them, PC supes defies all logic and continuity.

😐 Thats your argument? Can you show proof That PC Superman is strong enough to shut the gates of dimensions, so that Thor can't come back. I doubt that Superman can open dimensional rifts and push Thor through hem, so can I also get proof of that? Official Dc bio, or scan should suffice.

How can Supermans intellect be greater than than that of a omnipotent mind?

Superman cannot move at warp speeds, my knowledge knows only that he can move at multiples of the speed of light.

Superman for sure doesn't have more raw power than RKT, and I think any Supes fan can tell you that.

PC Supes can do what the writers wants him to do. What type of reason is that?! Every character will be able to do what the writer wants them to do. But there is always a scope for a character to stay and play around.

Dear god, i've created a monster! 🙁

RKT is too damn powerful, killed a skyfather being in Mangog with a gesture. And Pre-crisis superman who would literally sh** in his pants when he sees Darkseid, RKT will punk his ass.

If you can't spell you can't sell,

RKT - overrated, at the moment more so than superman,

I digress 3 versions of the supermen mentioned can and will bring a fight to this version of thor, no arguement, if they did a crossover of them fighting as well, unfortunately stan lee loves superman, he said this in an interview, about his favourite superheroes, he included spiderman and hulk as his other heroes that he loves.

Thor WILL lose, superman has too much comic-aura behind him, you reep what you sow, and he has made comics, thor isn't going to beat someone who helped carve a path for his character to emerge in later years of comics.

PERIOD!

There's a scope for a charater to play and stay...right?

So what would be the scope of superman's galaxy destroying sneeze?

Pre Crisis Superman waves his belt and puts thor under his mental command.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
😐 Thats your argument? Can you show proof That PC Superman is strong enough to shut the gates of dimensions, so that Thor can't come back.

Like this?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I doubt that Superman can open dimensional rifts and push Thor through hem...

Like this...?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Superman cannot move at warp speeds, my knowledge knows only that he can move at multiples of the speed of light.

Can't move at warp speed?

Here Superman is thrown to the Edge of the Universe and INTO a blackhole....

And here he breaks OUT of the heart of the black hole...

Smashing his way to freedom from the infinite force of the blackhole, Superman gets back to Earth on the next page of this comic after only seconds of flight...

YAY!!!!

Skeletor dropped Superman. He would have killed PC Supes too if He-Man didn't save his arse. Was Skeletor moving and fighting at FTL speeds? If they both fought within character, Supes would probably stand there thinking he would survive a God Blast from RKT. A God Blast that would probably kill him. RKT doesn't hesitate to kill.

When PC Supes is written to his strongest, as I think the forum rules state that the characters are fighting at their best, then it is PC Supes at his best, not when he is not.

Or we could include that Captain America nearly killed King Thor, or that Captain America dropped King Thor with a kick to the head, or that wolverine Severed King Thors right arm.

P.S. I know it was King Thor and RKT, but RKT's durability is the same as King Thor, RKT is just King Thor with the knowledge of the Runes of how to use the Odin Force.

Originally posted by MattDay
If you can't spell you can't sell,

RKT - overrated, at the moment more so than superman,

I digress 3 versions of the supermen mentioned can and will bring a fight to this version of thor, no arguement, if they did a crossover of them fighting as well, unfortunately stan lee loves superman, he said this in an interview, about his favourite superheroes, he included spiderman and hulk as his other heroes that he loves.

Thor WILL lose, superman has too much comic-aura behind him, you reep what you sow, and he has made comics, thor isn't going to beat someone who helped carve a path for his character to emerge in later years of comics.

PERIOD!