Pre-Crisis Supes vs RK Thor with expectations

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Skeletor dropped Superman. He would have killed PC Supes too if He-Man didn't save his arse. Was Skeletor moving and fighting at FTL speeds? If they both fought within character, Supes would probably stand there thinking he would survive a God Blast from RKT. A God Blast that would probably kill him. RKT doesn't hesitate to kill.

Superman fought Skeletor in the Master of the Universe preview. I have it. And it states that Superman's powers hardly work in Eternia as it is a land ruled by magic.

Skeletor says this himself.

And Superman wouldn't be fighting in character in this match up, no character does on the forum, so what a redundant thing to say.

Here's more proof that Superman can fly at warp speed and above.

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Pre-Crisis Superman operating at full power would be totally untouchable by Thor.

How do you touch someone that can move from one end of the universe to the other in a second?

Or someone who can not only turn invisible and intangible but can phase into any other dimension with no effort. Or even time travel at the drop of a hat with unparrelled ease?

Superman is not going to be touched by RKT - period.

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Superman's only problem in this fight is delivering damage to RKT. Pre-Crisis Superman found it notoriously difficult to wound magical creatures.

However - an Insta Temporal Displacement Punch would probably do the trick;

Superman punches Thor way back into time, so that he exists parrallel to himself in that time frame. That way, the version that Supes is fighting is rendered an immaterial ghost. And if Thor tries to magic himself forwards in time - ho ho, he can't.... Super Vibrations blocking the way.

😄

PC Supes with his speed, Thor wouldn't even be able to touch Supes with a godblast, nor would Thor have the time to even use it. Have you seen how long it takes Thor to use the godblast?

Originally posted by mighty adam
🤨 it would be a good fight but if thor uses his godblast then supes=DEAD. oh and that lil story just sounded like pis 😄

Really?

What if Superman dodged it by doing this?

Originally posted by bigbran
overated??? omg supes is the most overated character ever!!!
and basically what im getting from your arguements is that both pc supes and rkt, can beat galactus?
its not happening, god there powerful, but not infinate!!!
anyway thor is warp speed, and is a pure magical being. nope rkt wins 6/10.
but god stop overating both characters!!!

And my scenario of the Insta-Temporal Displacement Punch isn't PIS lol - it's all within the scope of Superman's powers. 🙂

Also PC Supes can defeat Galactus, going by on panel feats PC Supes defeats Galactus, this forum goes by on panel feats, not speculation that is backed up by nothing on panel.

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Really?

What if Superman dodged it by doing this?

Originally posted by Jesse7
Also PC Supes can defeat Galactus, going by on panel feats PC Supes defeats Galactus, this forum goes by on panel feats, not speculation that is backed up by nothing on panel.

Originally posted by bigbran
you do realize how bad that made supes look, dont you. one guy wasnt even koed!!! and was getting up.

Yeah mate.

Of course it looks bad.

Because Superman couldn't knock a guy out if he wanted too. 🙄

The guys were throwing explosive basketballs around - he just wanted them incapacitated so they didn't hurt themselves when the weapons bounced off Superman.

On the real, i do believe RKT would win this. PC superman became really ineffective whenver magic was at play. I mean, straight bumbling.

He has the stats, but history totally kicks his ass here.

And for the record, Superman Prime didn't have the Sword Of Superman. Justice Legion had the sword of Zauriel in their treasure room. Read the books before ya speak on it.

And he can't empower a whole race of people to Superman 1 Million levels of power, due to the fact that 1 Million had imp blood in him. That gives him special abilities that can't be gifted, only bred.

Superman Red/Blue was just like every other incarnation of Superman. Touted as the most powerful being ever. Never backed up, but often touted. Don't buy it.
And the Millenium Giants were failures. Severe failures. Drippy affected one with tp....How low is that??

PC superman is the most powerful version of Superman, based on feats, but is also the weakest version, based on inconsistencies. He's a cartoon character. Low and high for the sake of the plot. Gets trapped by a fence, but doesn't blink at Supernovas..

RKT should lose, but due to the inconsistency that was PC superman, he'd win. Heck, King Thor would win, imo. RKT has no feats, at least hardcore ones.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Also PC Supes can defeat Galactus, going by on panel feats PC Supes defeats Galactus, this forum goes by on panel feats, not speculation that is backed up by nothing on panel.

I don't agree with this.

Against Mega Cosmics like Big G, Superman doesn't win. He was being toyed with by Destiny, who's one of the big Cosmic guys in DCU.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Also PC Supes can defeat Galactus, going by on panel feats PC Supes defeats Galactus, this forum goes by on panel feats, not speculation that is backed up by nothing on panel.

Originally posted by UniOmni
On the real, i do believe RKT would win this. PC superman became really ineffective whenver magic was at play. I mean, straight bumbling.

He has the stats, but history totally kicks his ass here.

And for the record, Superman Prime didn't have the Sword Of Superman. Justice Legion had the sword of Zauriel in their treasure room. Read the books before ya speak on it.

And he can't empower a whole race of people to Superman 1 Million levels of power, due to the fact that 1 Million had imp blood in him. That gives him special abilities that can't be gifted, only bred.

Superman Red/Blue was just like every other incarnation of Superman. Touted as the most powerful being ever. Never backed up, but often touted. Don't buy it.
And the Millenium Giants were failures. Severe failures. Drippy affected one with tp....How low is that??

PC superman is the most powerful version of Superman, based on feats, but is also the weakest version, based on inconsistencies. He's a cartoon character. Low and high for the sake of the plot. Gets trapped by a fence, but doesn't blink at Supernovas..

RKT should lose, but due to the inconsistency that was PC superman, he'd win. Heck, King Thor would win, imo. RKT has no feats, at least hardcore ones.

Good points, but if you take low showings into account, then King Thor gets knocked over by Capt America. 🙂

If you take high feats but ignore low feats then Supes wins.

Galactus can be hailed as the most powerful cosmic (even thought he is not, this is pointed at the watcher comment), but by feats, and I think the forum rules states that the characters are fighting at their best unless other wise stated, then I don't see PC supes losing to Galactus.

Also, Superman Blue controlled all energy, every kind, that is very powerful, are you calling the millinium giants failures because Superman defeated them?

PC Superman at his best going by forum rules unless otherwise stated, is going anywhere he wants at logic defying speeds, can instantly traverse and seal dimensions by vibrating, can punch others or shove others into other dimensions effortlessly, etc.

I think several versions of Superman could defeat Galactus, Superman Blue since he can control all energy, could control the power cosmic, do you know what energy is, it is the very thing that lets you move, lets you think, live, etc. Superman Blue could be considered the most powerful manipulator in DC. Secondly PC Supes at his best could beat Galactus, who knows maybe with super weaving, and thirdly Kismet-Superman

Superman Blue was touted, and yes, the fact that the Celestial analogues were defeated by him, does make them failures in my eyes. The fact that Aquaman telepathically affected one only makes it worse.
Celestial analogues in all but showings.

Heck Thor used a Godblast on Exitar and all it did was break the skin. And i consider that a low point.

And the whole existence of Energy Superman was alot of hyperbole.

DD must be up there in the ranks of most powerfulest in all of comicdom, since he already destroyed someone akin to Energy Superman. The Radiant.

DC does alot of touting, but alot of it is just lip service. And anybody with an ear for writing, can see that fact.
Energy Superman beats Galactus??
Though Galactus could manipulate time, and blink out his ship on the way to Earth?? Really?? Or simply fart on Krypton?? Energy Superman beats him??
GTFOH!
This is exactly why i made that thread of Cosmics vs Heroes. Cuz shitty writing like that, spawns babble like yours..(no offense)

Energy Superman had the hype, but not the showings to solidify his touted place in the omniverse. Much like regular Superman. See the pattern?

Do you think Energy Superman could defeat Darkseid, since he controls all energy, surely he can control the OF, the very opposite of the Source?? Since it falls under the category of energy??

And I already said PC superman had the stats to thump Thor. I just pointed out that his history with magic works against him here.
Plus, i don't think he should be used in debates, since he's like Bugs Bunny's cousin.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Galactus can be hailed as the most powerful cosmic (even thought he is not, this is pointed at the watcher comment), but by feats, and I think the forum rules states that the characters are fighting at their best unless other wise stated, then I don't see PC supes losing to Galactus.

Also, Superman Blue controlled all energy, every kind, that is very powerful, are you calling the millinium giants failures because Superman defeated them?

PC Superman at his best going by forum rules unless otherwise stated, is going anywhere he wants at logic defying speeds, can instantly traverse and seal dimensions by vibrating, can punch others or shove others into other dimensions effortlessly, etc.

I think several versions of Superman could defeat Galactus, Superman Blue since he can control all energy, could control the power cosmic, do you know what energy is, it is the very thing that lets you move, lets you think, live, etc. Superman Blue could be considered the most powerful manipulator in DC. Secondly PC Supes at his best could beat Galactus, who knows maybe with super weaving, and thirdly Kismet-Superman

its thoughts like that, that make everyone hate superman. every debate, superman somehow gets a new power, or a powerup.

Either way they're both dicks 😄

and one of them at a weaker level has killed thing....