The Final Solution of The D'othus?

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The Final Solution of The D'othus?

Yep, you are about to read another of WD's fictional moral choice dilema thread. (this is a heads up for you newbies)

You guys helped me in the past with the "Discovery of a New Culture" and "The manifesto of Doom" polls. Now, I ask you all to provide your opinion and vote on this scenerio. This is one is bit more fictional with a touch of realism.

(The Scenerio)
A D'othu is a fictional creature. It's similar in shape to a human being with two legs, two arms, one head, etc...but it's NOT a human being and is not an animal...and is not an insect...and it's not a mutant. It's just some a creature with human apperances. Anyways, what is not important it's their origin...what's important is the effect the D'othus are causing for the people of a certain industrial nation (which is also fictional)

See, the problem is that D'othus are not a productive creature. In fact they're not very smart...actually they're basically consider certified idiots. They only reproduce, eat, sleep, crap, and do nothing else. However they have a very distinctive feature in their bodies. They have very sharp claws. When a D'othu feels threaten they don't reason they just attack viciously and aggresive. Which makes them rather dangerous for the local residents of the industrial nation. Even worse when they're strong in numbers they could practically kill anyone near them. Including defenseless children or elders.

You cannot consume a D'othu because their flesh is disguting terrible. Not even rats would eat them.

They're multiplying in population. Eventually they will become an imminent disaster for the people of the industrial nation.

(The dilema)
You are one of the main council members of the Industrial nation. The other members have decided on 5 choices with D'othu issue. It's a stalemate and you have the final vote. Your decision will have an impact on the people of your nation and the D'othu.

What is your vote?

Discuss.

Re: The Final Solution of The D'othus?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
(The dilema)
You are one of the main council members of the Industrial nation. The other members have decided on 5 choices with D'othu issue. It's a stalemate and you have the final vote. Your decision will have an impact on the people of your nation and the D'othu.

What is your vote?

Discuss.

Either exterminate them, or throw them in a zoo/some form of containment compound.

Hey WD, you know I DO LIKE YOU....hahaha.........but the hay.....this?? you almost sound like me..........lol

I suppose you would have to treat them on their own level and intelligence. Counselling might help,,hehe, but not likely since they are very different....I would suppose that there would be a tribunal of the masters to make this defect a productive part of society........lol

First you have to think of the education of your children on these different people, kind of like today..........

Yet if they are lower in IQ, and what is meant by that, cause there are many here that are..............then what????.........What should we do with ignorant people???..................IMO you love them, and give them a space................OH TAY........I'm done now.............*creeps off now*

I would try to educate them to have some sort of use, or at least to control the threat they present, that will depend on their intelligence too, and if they are such a big deal to the nation, then there should be large investiments in research about them and people working on that matter. No need to exterminate them, there are ways to solve the situation by investing in ecology, and scientific research.

WD........what movie did you just see??? 😑

Did the industrialized people live there first? Or were the D'othus there first and the other people just kinda moved in and set up shop?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Either exterminate them, or throw them in a zoo/some form of containment compound.
😆

Greatest post ever...

As Morgoths said...Who was there first?

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
Did the industrialized people live there first? Or were the D'othus there first and the other people just kinda moved in and set up shop?

That's a good question. However I don't have an aswer for it. Sorry...you basically work the decision based on the information provided.

Deb...this scenerio is based on a science fiction project. I can't tell you more for now. But do take this poll seriously. It would really help for the purposes of discussion.

Seems like it's based on any number of society's that have moved or made changes to "lesser" societies that cannot adapt to the new "master" society.

It depends...........haha.........."Depends"........

I really cannot make a defninite decision, But if it seems that they are playing NO part in the local ecosystem,
Eg. They don't control a specific population, they don't provide food for another species, If they truly are abandoned by nature, as you make it seem, they they really have no right to exist...

Re: The Final Solution of The D'othus?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Yep, you are about to read another of WD's fictional moral choice dilema thread. (this is a heads up for you newbies)

You guys helped me in the past with the "Discovery of a New Culture" and "The manifesto of Doom" polls. Now, I ask you all to provide your opinion and vote on this scenerio. This is one is bit more fictional with a touch of realism.

(The Scenerio)
A D'othu is a fictional creature. It's similar in shape to a human being with two legs, two arms, one head, etc...but it's NOT a human being and is not an animal...and is not an insect...and it's not a mutant. It's just some a creature with human apperances. Anyways, what is not important it's their origin...what's important is the effect the D'othus are causing for the people of a certain industrial nation (which is also fictional)

See, the problem is that D'othus are not a productive creature. In fact they're not very smart...actually they're basically consider certified idiots. They only reproduce, eat, sleep, crap, and do nothing else. However they have a very distinctive feature in their bodies. They have very sharp claws. When a D'othu feels threaten they don't reason they just attack viciously and aggresive. Which makes them rather dangerous for the local residents of the industrial nation. Even worse when they're strong in numbers they could practically kill anyone near them. Including defenseless children or elders.

You cannot consume a D'othu because their flesh is disguting terrible. Not even rats would eat them.

They're multiplying in population. Eventually they will become an imminent disaster for the people of the industrial nation.

(The dilema)
You are one of the main council members of the Industrial nation. The other members have decided on 5 choices with D'othu issue. It's a stalemate and you have the final vote. Your decision will have an impact on the people of your nation and the D'othu.

What is your vote?

Discuss.

what's your question?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
what's your question?

Whether you'd choose:

A. Extermination
B. Relocation of the D'othus in another land (this will cause foreign conflict)
B. Educate the D'othu to be productive (this will take a century to accomplish)
C. Sterilize the D'othus females
D. Adapt to the D'othus lifestyle

Anyway, I think I'd choose B.

No need to be fictional - there's enough real life problems.

First I will deal with the ones that I would not support -

Extermination - Down right no. It sounds as if they are a sentient (or on the way to being sentient) species, even if not particularly smart. Regardless, humans have always, in one way or another, had to handle living in a world where there a many things that could kill us. It usually isn't the fault of the animal, but rather a by product of population growth and human necessity. As a species it appears we are almost beyond the point where we intentionally drive an animal species to extinction, and I see no way it could be the right solution here, especially when the D'othus sound similar at this stage to the ancestors of homo sapians. I would hope that as people we had moved beyond "extermination" as an answer to a problem.

Relocation of the D'othus in another land (this will cause foreign conflict) - No. For all intents and purposes this would be the D'othus natural habitat. That, and I think the world would be a better place if politicians made the hard decisions for the greater good in the long run. Making the D'othus the problem of another nation, and risking international conflict reeks of weak politicians trying to avoid making a real decision and hoping someone else will make the hard decision.

Sterilize the D'othus females - A softer, more PC way of extermination, or perhaps it would only be a way of controlling D'othus population. Regardless it would be labour intensive, and have few tangible benefits, and plenty of moral conundrums. A short term plan at best, once again failing to really make a solid decision on the matter - after all, if it wasn't geared towards extermination, how long would a government happily do it for? As long as the nation existed?

Adapt to the D'othus lifestyle - Another short term solution I would believe. It is perhaps the most acceptable of the unsuitable options in my opinion - that is learning to live with the D'othus and their peculiarities. However that wont stop problems arising, and it would be disastrous to go to far one way, that is making people adopt the D'othus lifestyle. It might sound cynical, but while the D'othus sound basically sentient, it does not appear they have a real culture or society - thus, it would be difficult to adopt or adapt to for an advanced human society. But we, as a species, have learned to co-exist with plenty of dangerous species, so it might be possible.

The one I would support.

Educate the D'othu to be productive (this will take a century to accomplish) - But only if it is done right. I don't believe it would be correct to turn them into a form of cheap labour or disposable force. And while it might sound cynical, the humans aren't going anywhere, and for the D'othus to persist in this directionless state will cause increasing conflict as their population grows. Thus it is practical. I do not believe the human culture has the right to exterminate them, but I do believe they have a duty to attempt to make the situation as peaceful as possible. Ultimately co-existence should be the goal. Now the D'othus don't have to be assimilated or anything like that, but raised above the level they are at the moment - that is allowed to make use of the sentience that they appear to have the early stages of. Once they began to understand and utilise higher cognitive functions and social constructs I believe that the D'othus would have the potential to grow as a species, and perhaps curb the aspects of their species that are a threat to humans. And I believe there would be benefits to this for the D'othus - medicine, history, science. Now I am not saying the human nation addict them to human society, but rather lay the ground work for the D'othus to consciously begin their own culture, so that the gap between our species and theirs is reduced, and so we can better formulate a peaceful co-existance based upon reason and understanding that is productive for all concerned. I believe that 100 years would be a small price to pay to achieve such an end.

Oh just nuke em and get it over with....

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura

The one I would support.

Educate the D'othu to be productive (this will take a century to accomplish) - But only if it is done right. I don't believe it would be correct to turn them into a form of cheap labour or disposable force. And while it might sound cynical, the humans aren't going anywhere, and for the D'othus to persist in this directionless state will cause increasing conflict as their population grows. Thus it is practical. I do not believe the human culture has the right to exterminate them, but I do believe they have a duty to attempt to make the situation as peaceful as possible. Ultimately co-existence should be the goal. Now the D'othus don't have to be assimilated or anything like that, but raised above the level they are at the moment - that is allowed to make use of the sentience that they appear to have the early stages of. Once they began to understand and utilise higher cognitive functions and social constructs I believe that the D'othus would have the potential to grow as a species, and perhaps curb the aspects of their species that are a threat to humans. And I believe there would be benefits to this for the D'othus - medicine, history, science. Now I am not saying the human nation addict them to human society, but rather lay the ground work for the D'othus to consciously begin their own culture, so that the gap between our species and theirs is reduced, and so we can better formulate a peaceful co-existance based upon reason and understanding that is productive for all concerned. I believe that 100 years would be a small price to pay to achieve such an end.

What happens if they don't want to change and learn and grow, this isn't something people can force on others. There not only needs to be a willingness to learn but also a drive behind the willingness as well. So your idea could be successful if the DO whatever race is willing to accept this "growth."

Originally posted by debbiejo
Oh just nuke em and get it over with....

Ba-Hah! It is a good thing mine was the deciding vote. In my imaginery world after an intensive scientific/educational program lasting 100 years the D'othus and human species learned to live together with two virbant and unique cultures that, through cultural interation, has benifited both species.

I was awarded the highest medel of the nation, and wrote a best selling novel.

I appreciate the responses so far everyone. Thank you for contributing. Let me touch on something my friend and I were discussing about this scenerio last night. He mentions why can't the D'othus be domesticate? Turn them into pets. We do it with dogs, cats, snakes...etc...why can't it be done with these creatures. Even thought is not an option on the poll it's an interesting point and a posibility. What do you think?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I appreciate the responses so far everyone. Thank you for contributing. Let me touch on something my friend and I were discussing about this scenerio last night. He mentions why can't the D'othus be domesticate? Turn them into pets. We do it with dogs, cats, snakes...etc...why can't it be done with these creatures. Even thought is not an option on the poll it's an interesting point and a posibility. What do you think?

Well if they have the ability to be productive, it'd be bit of a waste to limit them to be simply house pets.