The Final Solution of The D'othus?

I will create an army of D´othus and conquer the world with them ! All opposition will become D´othus food.

See how they can be useful...

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Let me touch on something my friend and I were discussing about this scenerio last night. He mentions why can't the D'othus be domesticate? Turn them into pets. We do it with dogs, cats, snakes...etc...why can't it be done with these creatures. Even thought is not an option on the poll it's an interesting point and a posibility. What do you think?

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Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
They have very sharp claws. When a D'othu feels threaten they don't reason they just attack viciously and aggresive. Which makes them rather dangerous for the local residents of the industrial nation. Even worse when they're strong in numbers they could practically kill anyone near them. Including defenseless children or elders.

I think that would be a bad idea. It sounds to me like trying to turn a panther or a bear into a household pet.

btw...I think education is the only real moral and civilized way to handle the problem.

I have to ask the same question as Morgoths_Wrath. It’s your scenario, so you have to come up with a solution to the question, because I find it relevant.

Otherwise I second Imperial_Samurai’s vote.

You cannot consume a D'othu because their flesh is disguting terrible. Not even rats would eat them.

Though if you can educate them enough and they are not wild evil things why not have them around for company, playmates, pets sorta....If they can fetch, then they could get your paper, answer your phone, feel productive...maybe even make dinner........hmmm

*wants one*

Though they might be used in some underground prostitution rings...

Originally posted by Soleran
What happens if they don't want to change and learn and grow, this isn't something people can force on others. There not only needs to be a willingness to learn but also a drive behind the willingness as well. So your idea could be successful if the DO whatever race is willing to accept this "growth."

That was something I considered, but the scenario pretty much says that they can be made productive with 100 years of work- so it is a moot point. The industrial nation has the ability to change them - and ultimatly it seems to me that is the correct path out of the choices here, because something needs to be done.

Wasn't there a movie called "Troglodytes" or something. They ended up living underground and forming their own society because they weren't accepted by other humans.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Wasn't there a movie called "Troglodytes" or something. They ended up living underground and forming their own society because they weren't accepted by other humans.

If they did the Morlocs and the Mole people would eat them.

Out of the options, I'd educate them.

However, isolation would be my preferred solution. Give them half of the country or whatever, wall it off, and leave them be. If they advance, they'll become productive on their own to ensure their own survival, at which point they could be reintegrated into the other half. If they don't advance, they'll be extinct. Very little work necessary.

Originally posted by crazylozer
Out of the options, I'd educate them.

However, isolation would be my preferred solution. Give them half of the country or whatever, wall it off, and leave them be. If they advance, they'll become productive on their own to ensure their own survival, at which point they could be reintegrated into the other half. If they don't advance, they'll be extinct. Very little work necessary.

How true indeed..................man loves to stick his hand in everything thinking that in his infinite wisdom we will solve the problems for those that don't realize how much of a problem they are.

Answer is, wrong it all boils down to natural selection over a long enough period of time anyway. If you decide to educate the creatures for 100 years whose to say the process, the pain etc. Whose to say the creatures want it and its more "humane" to their understanding of life?

So in essence you are in effect forcing your will on these creatures no matter what..........................has anyone asked these creatures or presented some ideas for them to assist in what might work best for them?

Originally posted by Soleran
How true indeed..................man loves to stick his hand in everything thinking that in his infinite wisdom we will solve the problems for those that don't realize how much of a problem they are.

Answer is, wrong it all boils down to natural selection over a long enough period of time anyway. If you decide to educate the creatures for 100 years whose to say the process, the pain etc. Whose to say the creatures want it and its more "humane" to their understanding of life?

So in essence you are in effect forcing your will on these creatures no matter what..........................has anyone asked these creatures or presented some ideas for them to assist in what might work best for them?

I don't think it should be seen as a "Manifest destiny" situation, or anything of that nature. The scenario states that the D'othus population is booming, and they could come into conflict with people. For all intents and purposes, if you wish to use natural selection, then they are doing great, and with out human interference will continue to do great - but the fact is that isn't going to happen - one way of another humans are in control of their destiny, good or bad.

And that is practical and unavoidable. Now humans have been fortunate enough to mostly remove ourselves from the pros and cons of natural selection, and to effect any number of species outside of normal evolutionary progress. Every animal we have sent extinct or domesticated was faced with a situation that was outside the realms of normal evolution. The same, it seem, applies here. There is no choice for just leaving them alone (beyond adapting to them) - thus it becomes the lessor of the evils - and I would say using our intelligence and understanding to educate them is infinitely more just and preferable then exterminating them. Somehow I imagine that is more humane, and that since any species has a biological imperative to survive they would choose to live.

And once again - as cynical as it sounds - they don't really have a choice. The humans in this scenario are essentially holding all the cards - the D'othus, if you wished to give them a choice, and hoped they understood would be presented with "you can all die, you can go away but we don't know what will happen then, you can be sterilised and die out anyway, or you can be educated so that you can control you instincts and have a safer, more beneficial relationship with people."

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
If they did the Morlocs and the Mole people would eat them.

So in essence you are in effect forcing your will on these creatures no matter what..........................has anyone asked these creatures or presented some ideas for them to assist in what might work best for them?

I notice the exterminate option is winning in the polls, but it seems that no one has really made a post to state why extermination would be the correct way to go....

I think they choose extermination because is the quickest way to dispose of the problem. However, something it was point out is that Sterilization (sp?) is also a form of extermination. A little slower but also effective.

On the issue of who was there first. I ask that question to the person who help me create the scenerio (yes, this isn't entirely my project) and we pretty much agree that it is important. We decided that the history records of the industrial society are under review becuase they're inconclusive as to which one was there first. So, at this point in time there is no solid evidence as to who was there first. Unfortunally the problem with the D'othus is still at hand. It requires a solution ASAP. As I said earlier... we will work with the information provided and the final vote belongs to the last member of the council (i.e. You)

I say they should be sterilized.

Why should we not make use of the peaceful alternative, if success is highly probable? Not only will it save the lives of innocents--assuming that extermination is a favored choice--but it will, in turn, aid the industrial nation with labor and commerce.

I cannot explain it, but I would be more in favor of extermination of the D'othus than sterilization. [As an afterthought.]

I dont know where you are coming from with this D'othu......

The most simple solution (other than the annihilation of their race) would be the re-education of them under the nation's laws and productivity. Any one of them who threatens or attacks without due cause should be arrested and jailed like any human (or whatever fictional punishment) until they as a whole get the picture. Becuase they are easily the aggrevators of the situation and the one's causing instability, yet it is unfair to treat them all based off the actions of a few of them. So my answer is education and enhanced security/laws/enforcement until they can either integrate into the society, or if all else fails, be relocated as a race.

Just wondering, does this scenario have anything to do with the increasing muslim population/problem in Europe? because it seems to be quite a comparison.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost

Just wondering, does this scenario have anything to do with the increasing muslim population/problem in Europe? because it seems to be quite a comparison.

Negative, but good observation. The scenerio may seen to have similiraties with the Jewish Holocaust when you see the final solution on the title. I assure is not to be taken in that sense. It's not intentional or a satire of any holocaust. These creatures are consider more like a pest problem rather than semantics or racist issues.